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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #41 on: 11-30-2003 18:53 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 18:53 »
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Originally posted by RabbitTime: so i'm very confused. maybe adult swim just got the rights to more episodes that they hadn't been able to air before? Bam! The "new" episodes aired on Adult Swim the last couple of weeks is the 5th season aired on FOX. FOX wanted first dip at airing these episodes, and thus AS/CN couldn't show them until now. So they're new to AS, but not new to Futurama. Welcome to PEEL, Rabbit_Time. Enjoy it here.
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CyberKnight
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by RabbitTime: I feel like I've gone completely mad: I was told, about 2 months ago that Matt Groening had more or less demanded that fox put futurama back on, or he'd pull the simpsons. I believe MG stated in an interview that he would not use the power of The Simpsons to force a revival of Futurama (I believe the exact quote was "It wouldn't be my style." ). Nice that he has a principle (although I can't say I would do the same in his position ). And just so we sound like a broken MP3, Welcome to PEEL, Rabbit_Time!
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bender+fry
Professor
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probably, but we can always hope that there was a sequence of actions that led to the creation of more episodes. If it said that there were more episodes created a month ago, I bet it was just the season four reruns they are showing on CN. Do you by any chance know the name of the episode or what happens?
Threatning to pull the simpsons would be a great way to get futurama back on the air, although I don`t think Matt would do that.
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bender+fry
Professor
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Originally posted by futuramamama: If everyone here at PEEL chipped in like a hundred dollars each. Do you think it would be enough for another episode?
Lets see here..... 1,200,000 divided by 19,000,000. More than enough. I hope FOX dies or something. I can`t believe they would cancel something so popular. I would do anything, ANYTHING, to get futurama back on the air, and this includes, begging on the streets and cleaning urinals.
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Damitol
Bending Unit
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My understanding is that while FOX Home Entertainment (the good guys in the evil FOX empire) will be releasing the new Family Guy DVDs, the episodes themselves will be shown on Cartoon Network - not FOX.
In other words, Family Guy's renewal is a bid by FOX to make many, many more dollars on DVDs only. They still don't think it will do well as a regularly scheduled network show. It wouldn't surprise me if the "fourth season" showed up in our favorite video stores prior to CN getting airing rights.
As far as Futurama's future - I'll never say never - but production costs are a big speed bump in a deal similar to Family Guy's. Of course the S3 and S4 DVD sets have yet to be released in R1, so if sales figures are big enough, who knows? I know that Family Guy sold close to one million units domestically (I don't know if that's each set or both sets total however), so Futurama S3 and S4 would have to surpass that in order to start the pencil pushers at FOX HE running numbers on a new "season".
Finally, as far as a fan based financed season happening, I learned from the whole Farscape thing that a show can't legally have thousands of investors. Someone needs to set up a non-profit corporation and take in donations, then the corporation would finance the show. Sadly, lawyers and accountants need to be part of the mix, so setting up such a corporation requires someone with both a big pocket full of seed money and the desire to make it all happen. Anyone? Anyone?
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sheep555
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #50 on: 12-01-2003 12:01 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 12:01 »
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Originally posted by Damitol: As far as Futurama's future - I'll never say never - but production costs are a big speed bump in a deal similar to Family Guy's. Would it not be possible to lower the budget costs - Rough Draft animate both shows, and one would assume it would be possible to say to them "We want a show that costs as much as Family Guy - what needs to go?". Although obviously you'd lose all the 3D, and lots of detail, which is probably necessary for a show like Futurama, so reducing costs probably is not very viable. Originally posted by Damitol: so setting up such a corporation requires someone with both a big pocket full of seed money and the desire to make it all happen. Anyone? Anyone? I possess one of those qualities...who's with me?
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flaff
Poppler
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What if people just started boycotting everything from the fox corporation until they start to make new episodes of futurama?
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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First off, let me clear up something as I have a few times before: Matt Groening won't pull The Simpsons to put Futurama on. Not only would that create a huge uproar that would leave many viewers too bitter to even bother with what they may see as his "self indulgent pet project"....he CAN'T. He doesn't own the show, never has and never will. Fox does and they can continue the show regardless of what he thinks. It would have to come down to everyone who works on the show now (and Groening does NOT work on the show anymore and hasn't really since about season three, that needs to be clear as well) suddenly deciding that they didn't want to do it anymore, or the costs getting too high, for it to end. And neither of those are going to happen very soon.
Anyways, what I take all this as is that, if Family Guy's revival is a success, that MAY just open doors for Futurama, if only in the movie format. What I think will need to happen is for the ratings of both shows to stay consistant, for Family Guy to be successful in its new run (whether you like the show or not, it has to happen for Fox or any other network or studio to bring back a cancelled show based on dvd sales and cable ratings), and for fans of Futurama to buy a whole bunch more dvds then they have been so far.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by eri_2001: fuck the rights who the hell cares in leagal rights to own it FOX and their crack team of top-lawyers, just itching to file another law-suit. if you broadcast it on the internet television it doesnt realy matter Copyrights are international, I'm sure Sweden uphold copyright laws just as stringent as America. Just because you do it on the Internet doesn't make it legal, since you would still be a resident of Sweden and as such punishable under Swedish law. or if you broadcast it on the least expected channal i think sky1 should broadcast it unleagal FOX: "Hello lawsuit." or you can just make a new series caled futuramo FOX: "Hello lawsuit." and sell all boradcast all the episodes thats leagal right! FOX: "Hello lawsuit." Welcom to PEEL. Enjoy it here.
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eri_2001
Crustacean
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yeah well then ill stick whit the john titor theori or that fox will sell it or take it up again
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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It is possible, but very unlikely. Cartoon Network would need to aquire enough money to produce episodes with at least a $1 million budget each.
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eri_2001
Crustacean
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sorry im just saying dont get all mad
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eri_2001
Crustacean
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maybe in year 3000 the will make new episodes
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Bender145th
Crustacean
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Originally posted by 1 of the gang: Fox makes me angry...it makes me want to burn things. Your comment lack subtlety. You can't just announce how you feel! That makes me feel angry.
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superfryguy
Crustacean
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Originally posted by newhook_1: Because while Matt has the rights to Futurama itself (that's why he can still publish comics) Fox owns the broadcast rights to the show. Can anyone tell me when Fox's rights to 'Futurama' actually expire? (Not that this will ever make any difference!)
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