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Lee Roberts
Liquid Emperor
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Somebody mentioned Reality TV programmes are lame, that's what the people watch/want. In the UK alone we have over 1 million just watching Big Brother, that's just because people like to see people lose their minds! If your confused that's because i taking the pee out off Reality TV programmes. Simpsons In Space though, come on Fox, not ever show can be like The Simpsons. Futurama had a lot to look up to and if you read through most of the old threads, your see what other peelers have heard that FOX have said about the difference between the 2. Fox are stupid in the fact that: 1)They Cancelled Futurama. 2)They cancelled Family Guy (That has done extremely well since it's death) 3)Asking for more animated shows (Why get rid of Futurama then?)
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User_names_suck
Professor
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Originally posted by DotheBartman: Eh, maybe. I somehow just get the feeling that the characters weren't compelling enough at all to people in seasons one and two, so that combined with declining Fox support resulted in the huge ratings dip by the end of season two and the beginning of season three. If the show had started out at season three levels in the first episodes, people might have been more compelled to watch each week, as opposed to simply watching once in a while. i agree with everything you just said
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spacepilot3000
Starship Captain
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Originally posted by Vamsi: To quote from the Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show episode, courtesy of SNPP.com:
Man: How many of you kids would like Itchy & Scratchy to deal with real-life problems, like the ones you face every day? Kids: [clamoring] Oh, yeah! I would! Great idea! Yeah, that's it! Man: And who would like to see them do just the opposite -- getting into far-out situations involving robots and magic powers? Kids: [clamoring] Me! Yeah! Oh, cool! Yeah, that's what I want! Man: So, you want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots? Kids: [all agreeing, quieter this time] That's right. Oh yeah, good.
I watched that episode a couple days ago and when I heard that line, I turned to my dad and said "Doesn't that sound familiar to you?". That's exactly what Futurama is. "A realistic, Down-to-earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming with magical robots."
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User_names_suck
Professor
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000: I watched that episode a couple days ago and when I heard that line, I turned to my dad and said "Doesn't that sound familiar to you?". That's exactly what Futurama is.
"A realistic, Down-to-earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming with magical robots." yes i already said that, not quite sure the robots are magical though,futurama trie to be more logical
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Rakija
Crustacean
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The Simpsons has been stale for over 5-6 years. I can't believe that mindless audiences still tune in to that crap. The Simpsons are hardly even a family and more. It sickens me.Futurama is the way of the future! Why can't everybody else see it?
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User_names_suck
Professor
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wow never seen a post like that before.
hmm normally my sarcasm is wittier and less obvious than that. oh well
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Evil Fox Exec
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by DotheBartman: Eh, maybe. I somehow just get the feeling that the characters weren't compelling enough at all to people in seasons one and two, so that combined with declining Fox support resulted in the huge ratings dip by the end of season two and the beginning of season three. Excusez-moi, but wasn't it Fox's shitty scheduling with Futurama being put on at 7:00 pm at the end of season two and onwards that resulted in a rating's decline? That's what I always thought, anyway. Anyway, I think that having likeable characters has nothing to do with the popularity of a show. Namely, if a crap show like Friends can be one of the most popular shows ever, than it most certainly must be a top factor with regards to what makes a show popular. Oddly enough, I got really attached to Futurama about halfway through watching the pilot episode, just because I thought the characters were more likeable than, say, The Simpsons characters. I am firmly convinced that all this is a matter of opinion, rather than fact like some people are making it out to be (i.e. that audience like/don't like loveable characters, or character who they can identify with). Too bad we don't have someone here who works for Nielsen Media, because somebody like that might know what causes audience trends.
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User_names_suck
Professor
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Well even so something about the show meant people were less devotional to it then the simpsons, i wouldn't know about shitty scheduling in the u.s ther were no problems in the u.k.
but say if the simpsons had been played around with its scheduling when it came around i'd imagine people would have made more effort.
its really just a variety of factors combing being relative to different people in different situations.
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Evil Fox Exec Excusez-moi, but wasn't it Fox's shitty scheduling with Futurama being put on at 7:00 pm at the end of season two and onwards that resulted in a rating's decline? That's what I always thought, anyway. Anyway, I think that having likeable characters has nothing to do with the popularity of a show. Namely, if a crap show like Friends can be one of the most popular shows ever, than it most certainly must be a top factor with regards to what makes a show popular. Oddly enough, I got really attached to Futurama about halfway through watching the pilot episode, just because I thought the characters were more likeable than, say, The Simpsons characters. I am firmly convinced that all this is a matter of opinion, rather than fact like some people are making it out to be (i.e. that audience like/don't like loveable characters, or character who they can identify with). Too bad we don't have someone here who works for Nielsen Media, because somebody like that might know what causes audience trends. Can't argue that Friends is crap. However, for some reason people "relate" to the characters. People had trouble relating to the characters, especcially with their bland early characterizations, in Futurama, simple as that. My take is that the characters weren't really unlikeable neccasarily (well, they often were, especcially Bender, but that's not the issue), but people just didn't care about them one way or the other. Honestly, when watching episodes from the first two seasons I very rarely care about what's going on or particularly like any of the characters. Most of my enjoyment (and I do enjoy those episodes a lot for the most part) comes simply from the humor. But humor is not enough for most people, they need characters that hook them in some way, and in the early days Futurama's characters tended to have one basic character trait each and little else. Simple as that. Fry was stupid (and from 1999), Leela was a nagger who everyone bickered with, and Bender was crass. In regards to your mention of "Space Pilot", that was one of the better early episodes character-wise, but remember that the show started to drop off considerably after those strong initial ratings. For the record, I'm not blaming the show entirely here. I agree, Fox fucked up seriously. In fact, the most ironic thing is that it was in season three, when the show suddenly got ridiculously good, that Fox's support started to really bottom out into a near lack of support. Still, the show was basically dropping continuously ever since "Space Pilot", and Fox can't take all the blame for that even if they obviously aren't good about sticking with their shows.
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User_names_suck
Professor
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also there wasn't enough done to make people care about these charcters. yet it would you seem you were expected to. i found it annoying that it was supposed to move me i just found it cheesy at first. also a lot of the plots were kind of ' what KERAZY adventures will the gang get into this week,
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User_names_suck
Professor
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i watched it on sky one
2am c4 slots are now just repeats anyway, for it gets played around with as well as things like familgy guy, south park, king of the hill, and currently the pj's
so sorry i never had to consider c4 scheduling
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