Killerfox
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well i will just download it
TOTPD
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ooy
Professor
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did it have the new starting lkike in "spanish fry"?
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El Zilcho
Professor
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I thought this whole episode reminded me of a Simpsons ep. The plot really took a backseat to the zaniness of the characters, and the whole ep was kind of making fun of itself. Even the line "Bender should not be allowed on TV" seemed like they said, "Hmm, how can we get this guy off of "All My Circuts"? I know, he'll suggest it! Hilarity ensues!"
There were some really good one-liners, like "So bad it gave me cancer" or "This show's been going downhill since season 3." Overall, this ep had the kinda zany, madcap humor that's just not right for Futurama.
Grade: C
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Grim
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Hehe, I enjoyed it, a nice light hearted ep, nothing wrong with that. I quite liked the use of Cubert and Dwight in this ep, but Calculon wasnt very good, his jokes were predictable, and he seemed a little more self centered than normal. Bender leading a cause against himself just seemed a little too odd. I did like fry's run of "Hey Bender" s
I think the airing order has effected how the show has finished off in that light hearted eps have clumped together, I am sure if they were played in order there would have been better balance in the type of episode.
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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Man, I'm still not getting the blah response to this episode. I mean, of course the episode was zany..."Space Pilot 3000" had SUICIDE BOOTHS.
One thing I particularly liked about this episode actually, was the aknowledgement of the initial reasoning behind Bender's creation, which (sorry) WAS largely commercial. The first thing he ever said, in "Pilot" was "Bite my shiny metal ass" after all. This episode did a great job of spoofing the writing of the earliest episodes where Bender, as amusing as he was, was clearly being manufactured with the hope of gaining mainstream appeal, to attract an audience that would love him for being able to do things characters on other shows never could (and after all, he was the breakout character in seasons one and two). Even Billy West said in a commentary, "he's the greatest character on tv because he can do things other characters never could because he's a robot". Even the "execu-bots" and producers initially were angry at this "filthy" display but used him as a promotional tool once they realized his popularity.
Yep, this sure did remind me of a Simpsons episode (Treehouse of Horror II, where they aknowledged the ridiculous merchandise and "Bartmania", comes to mind). But in the best, most classic, way possible.
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El Zilcho
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Originally posted by DotheBartman: Man, I'm still not getting the blah response to this episode. I mean, of course the episode was zany..."Space Pilot 3000" had SUICIDE BOOTHS.
I meant zany like "Actions have no consequence" zany, not "Look! it's the future!" zany. Example: Calculon wouldn't have hired Bender because a non-existant audience liked him. That part seemed too ridiculous for me. Another example: Bender turning on himself and leading a mob against Bender on TV, when he probably (in any other ep) would've just called up and quit.
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #87 on: 08-05-2003 04:52 »
« Last Edit on: 08-05-2003 04:52 »
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My reactions to those:
For Calculon: He's a robot. Ultimately, he's not as smart in some ways as a human, and might not be able to distinguish that the "audience" was just Bender or even that it probably wouldn't exsist. In a sense, he's probably programmed to react to any "audience" and hence was thinking in those terms. And anyway, its not like we've ever known much about him, so him being a little out of character would be fairly neglible (that is, its more innexcusable if a MAIN character, who's been in more then ten or so episodes, did something out of character).
Bender: I was thinking about this earlier, and its kinda the same thing. Bender, like a computer, can only "focus" so on so many things at one time with his "computer mind". Of course, in the year 3000 robots seem to behave very strangely in some ways, but that aside. He's a character who's always very self-absorbed, if only because he was probably programmed that way. So, when someone steals from him, he goes bonkers and tries to get himself off the air in outrage (which in a way was a satirical allusion to a lot of parents who don't get angry til something happens to THEM, like THEIR kid getting hurt or a "influenced" kid hurting either their kid or the parent in some way). Again, he can only focus on one thing (in "Tale of Two Santas" we even learn that robots can be destroyed by logical paradoxes), so he doesn't realize how much of a hypocrite he's being (which again is perhaps a satirical allusion, made more "believable" by the fact that this is a cartoon robot). Only later, when he's holding the two guns, does he even come close to realizing, and he seems to "bounce" between each reasoning because he isn't able to comprehend both at once, or either merging (and hey, most proponents of either side of the argument in real life can't comprehend compromise either; its always either "the parents fault" or "tv's fault", never both at once).
And failing all that, I thought the scenes were well executed anyway, and absolutely hilarious. So mission accomplished with me.
Edit: I think I'm going to have to upgrade my rating to an A. I myself didn't really realize some of this episode's better aspects until I was writing this post, but there it is. I really think this could be one of the smartest, and maybe even best, episodes of the series.
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Drippy_taco
Professor
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Here's a .ogg (like an .mp3, but better) I recorded of the beatboxing at the beginning of the ep. Good quality if you want to keep it and listen to it later. Futurama - Beatboxing Intro.ogg
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Fing-longer
Crustacean
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« Reply #94 on: 08-05-2003 12:10 »
« Last Edit on: 08-05-2003 12:10 »
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Could someone explain the "hanging wires" reference? Thanks Hey, I watch Futurama for laughs, and this one delivered. I want about every 4th episode to be important, and the other three can be simple comedy. It's not supposed to be a soap opera...perhaps in making fun of soap operas in this ep, they were making fun of shippers? After all...if something important happens in every episode, then everything is no longer important.
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Action Jacktion
Professor
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« Reply #95 on: 08-05-2003 12:22 »
« Last Edit on: 08-05-2003 12:22 »
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Originally posted by Fing-longer: Could someone explain the "hanging wires" reference? Thanks It's a joke referencing the movie/book Mommie Dearest, which is about Joan Crawford. She yells at her daughter for using wire hangers for her clothes. (I asked in another thread if the "7.0" on the mother robot meant anything. Does anyone know, or was it just decoration?) It's not supposed to be a soap opera...perhaps in making fun of soap operas in this ep, they were making fun of shippers? No.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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People just have different opinions, it's not the end of the world. I have the same feelings about "A Leela Of her Own". I can't see how it's possbile not to love that episode, but there it is. Sitting dead last in CGEF's review section, with a mindboggling lousy rating of 54%.
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MuscaDomestica
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I liked the episode, good. Didn't have the spark to make it great (very few episodes do) was entertaining and I laughed. Got to see characters that didn't get too much screen time and more of the world.
Canned eggs, I think the fact the series is ending and when people have to leave something that they love they try to make the experiance as bad as possible so it is easier to say goodbye.
Either that or they love Leela or Amy and want to see more of them.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by canned eggs: Which doesn't explain why a Danish dude would like it, but anyway, I have a guilty pleasure, I like slapstick. I know I shouldn't laugh of something as crude as hitting people on the nose with a beanball, but damnit it was hillarious. Plus some good jokes and references. But, yeah, back to BSNBAOT. I guess people just got fueled by the reactions of "the other side".
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Whoever brought up the whole "soap opera making fun of shippers" actually is on to something, as far as I can tell. I'm surprised that no one has brought up the parts of the episode that make fun of the fans. For instance, "Eh, this show's been going downhill since season 3," and "Antonio in a coma? That is so out of character."
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Nixorbo: Whoever brought up the whole "soap opera making fun of shippers" actually is on to something, as far as I can tell. I'm surprised that no one has brought up the parts of the episode that make fun of the fans. For instance, "Eh, this show's been going downhill since season 3," and "Antonio in a coma? That is so out of character." Plus Farnsies line: "We should all take tv a little less seriously."
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Timo
Bending Unit
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« Reply #107 on: 08-06-2003 10:22 »
« Last Edit on: 08-06-2003 10:22 »
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Originally posted by VelourFog: maybe they were making fun of themselves? the show has been going downhill since season 3. <1-X upgrade guy> No. Get out. Next! <1-X upgrade guy> As intimated, it is not the show that has been going downhill since season 3, only some of the fans. But if that is your view, that's fine. It happens. Sometimes good people drift apart for no apparent reason. For my part, I feel that the Fry/Leela relationship tension has been stretched beyond all believability. It should have ended no later than season 2. Let them get together and move on. *cough*kif-and-amy*cough* Or not get together and move on. *cough*fry-and-amy*cough* Either way, move on. You have one mere week to suffer the drivel.
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Action Jacktion
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« Reply #109 on: 08-06-2003 15:53 »
« Last Edit on: 08-06-2003 15:53 »
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I worked it out, and I think that overall, season 4 was of higher quality than season 3 (that's not including the final episode), though not by much. But maybe you're thinking of which season has a higher number of really good episodes or really bad episodes, and not the average.
I personally don't think that the jokes in this episode were wholly directed at Fox or at the fans of Futurama. After all, other networks also go overboard with reality shows and have unfunny sitcoms. I think that like "When Aliens Attack," it was mainly making fun of TV in general (though "Aliens" did a much better job). Since the jokes were directed at TV in general, they could be applied to Futurama, but I don't think it was deliberate. Cthulhu help us if Futurama starts making fun of itself as much as The Simpsons.
The idea that the episode was making fun of "shippers" stemmed from the suggestion that they didn't like it just because there was no romance element. But come on, if someone didn't like what you liked, it doesn't necessarily mean there's some silly reason behind it. They aren't refusing to accept the episode's quality, they just have a difference of opinion. I like the romance subplot, but some of my favorite episodes have nothing to do with it.
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payn
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by Timo: As intimated, it is not the show that has been going downhill since season 3, only some of the fans.
Actually, I think it was a reference to fans of all shows, but primarily the Simpsons, more than Futurama. Many people claim that seasons 2-3 of the Simpsons were far and away the best ever; in fact, it's such a frequently-made claim that it's almost "common knowledge." Also, keep in mind that 4acv06 was early enough in the 4th run that it was probably expected to run during the 4th season, which makes the joke not work too well about Futurama.
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jjjt
Crustacean
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Originally posted by canned eggs: Never, ever ask. damn....that just makes me even more curious... could i have at least a hint~
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