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Dr. Morberg
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Originally posted by Teral: The only explanation I came up with when I saw that scene was that Virgil is a somewhat dorky name (no offense to anyone named Virgil), and not something a kid trying to be though would want out, when Ice-V is so much cooler. I'd say they cut it because it didn't work as well as they'd hoped. Ofcourse that's just my theory. That joke was hilarious compared to anything else in that episode at that point. They should have left it in.
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german fry
Crustacean
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okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox. He says: "Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!" i dont get it!
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: I dunno, it just seems like a joke the Fox censor would have something to say about. Not that that means much, mind, but you never know. They were quite happy to keep in the sugestion that kids should work out their differences through blernsball bats in "The Cyber House Rules", then again FOX sensors work in ways not even God is able to understand. Originally posted by german fry: okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox. He says: "Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!" i dont get it! Most likely Farnsworth-1 suffered some brain-damage form his experiment, and is even more senile than Farnsworth-A. Also I agree with c.eggs (even though I don't know what he's talking about).
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canned eggs
Space Pope
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Originally posted by Teral: Also I agree with c.eggs (even though I don't know what he's talking about).
In logic and semantics, presupposition failure is when you say something that directly contradicts a presupposition inherent in something you said earlier. This Parabox example isn't very good, because he actually contradicts what he said earlier, but it's funnier if the sentences aren't actually contradictory. I don't know why it's so funny, but the Futurama writers do it all the time. Here's a list of all the presupposition failure jokes I've found: In 1ACV01, Leela's boss says, "it's my job to make you do your job, whether I like it or not. Which I do! Very much!" In 1ACV03, Bender says, "You know, Fry...Of all the friends I've had, you're the first." In 2ACV03, one of the clones, I think Jack Johnson, says, "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said." And from 2ACV14: Farnsworth: "No, it was silly of me to object. One foot tall, eight feet, fifteen feet. What does it matter?" Mom: "You should see the new sixteen foot models." Farnsworth: "Sixteen feet?! Go to hell! I was a fool to think you'd changed, you old bat!" From 2ACV16: Hermes: "We're jerked. Nothing can stop a monster that big!" Farnsworth: "Nothing except an even equally big monster!" From 2ACV18: Robot1: "Some say unholy things happen up there!" Robot2: "For example, all of us say that." From 3ACV05: Farnsworth: "Well, Fry ... Or should I say .. captain Fry? No I shouldn't! Because Bender is the new captain." From 3ACV09: Fry: "He's a weird monster who smells like he eats garbage, and does." From 3ACV11: Farnsworth: "Oh don't worry Fry. I too once spent a nightmarish time in a robot asylum, but now it's nearly over. So long!" From 3ACV17: Scruffy: "Boy, I've never seen him so down. Or ever before." From 4ACV03: Planet Express Ship: "Your accountants. Oh, I would dearly love to believe that were true. So I do! I'm gonna go home and get dinner started." From 4ACV15: "Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!" On the pragmatic strategy, presupposition is an estimation of the listener's knowledge. The speaker assumes that the listener knows a certain piece of information, so it's put into the common ground. So when the robot says "Some say unholy things happen up there," he is presumably aware that his listeners will infer that not everybody says it, through the Gricean maxim of informativity (if he had meant all of them, he would have said it). So the "not all" interpretation of the sentence is pragmatically presupposed. But the presupposition fails, because it's contradicted in the next sentence. Similarly, "I've never seen him so down" pragmatically presupposes that Scruffy has seen him (Bender) before, et cetera.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Cool, never thought about that before. I mostly laughed because the jokes were a logic contradiction. Looks like I learned something from this thread too. Much appreciated, eggs.
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Action Jacktion
Professor
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The Bible is sometimes called "the good news" because it tells you about God and stuff. It was used as a joke because the Professor always says "good news."
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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it also talks aboot armageddon, and the Prof always did think he'd have a part in it.
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german fry
Crustacean
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the butter in pocket thing. nobody mentioned that fry is crawliong trugh a tube with superheated steam. then he says the btter in my pocket is melting. the joke is that the butter would have melted anyway in his pocket.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Exactly that. Fry won the draw to chose weapon by guessing what animal the king where thinking of. The thing is these draws are usually done by a coin-toss or another way that would exclude cheating. Having to guess what animal a person is thinking of, and then trust him when he say which person won is a bit stupid, especially in a fight to the death.
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