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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #480 on: 04-05-2004 16:59 »

I dunno, it just seems like a joke the Fox censor would have something to say about. Not that that means much, mind, but you never know.
Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #481 on: 04-05-2004 18:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
The only explanation I came up with when I saw that scene was that Virgil is a somewhat dorky name (no offense to anyone named Virgil), and not something a kid trying to be though would want out, when Ice-V is so much cooler. I'd say they cut it because it didn't work as well as they'd hoped. Ofcourse that's just my theory.

That joke was hilarious compared to anything else in that episode at that point. They should have left it in.
german fry

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« Reply #482 on: 04-05-2004 19:40 »

okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox.
He says:
"Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!"
i dont get it!
Invader_Tak

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« Reply #483 on: 04-06-2004 02:30 »

 
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Originally posted by dvdashot:
Sorry about my error. I was just looking that up right now and saw my error. I was coming here to atone for my wrong-doings... and correct myself.

 Sorry, trivia seems to bring out the worst in me. 
canned eggs

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« Reply #484 on: 04-06-2004 02:38 »

 
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Originally posted by german fry:
okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox.
He says:
"Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!"
i dont get it!

Presupposition failure is funny.
Teral

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« Reply #485 on: 04-06-2004 15:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
I dunno, it just seems like a joke the Fox censor would have something to say about. Not that that means much, mind, but you never know.

They were quite happy to keep in the sugestion that kids should work out their differences through blernsball bats in "The Cyber House Rules", then again FOX sensors work in ways not even God is able to understand.

 
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Originally posted by german fry:
okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox.
He says:
"Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!"
i dont get it!

Most likely Farnsworth-1 suffered some brain-damage form his experiment, and is even more senile than Farnsworth-A.

Also I agree with c.eggs (even though I don't know what he's talking about).
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #486 on: 04-06-2004 15:25 »
« Last Edit on: 04-06-2004 15:25 »

 
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Originally posted by german fry:
okay farnsworth asks parallel farnsworth about his scar in farnsworth parabox.
He says:
"Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!"
i dont get it!

if you removed your brain, you'd have some relapsing and crazyness in your speach :P
It was just stating the Farnsworth 1 was a little crazy from taking out his own brain.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #487 on: 04-06-2004 15:32 »

Yes, there were quite a few crazy jokes in TFP. Fry's "The butter in my pocket is melting" line and also Farnsworth stating "The Bible is the real good news!" What was that about?!
boxie

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« Reply #488 on: 04-06-2004 15:35 »

Surreality and randomness...

my two favourite ingredients.
canned eggs

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« Reply #489 on: 04-06-2004 15:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 Also I agree with c.eggs (even though I don't know what he's talking about).

In logic and semantics, presupposition failure is when you say something that directly contradicts a presupposition inherent in something you said earlier.  This Parabox example isn't very good, because he actually contradicts what he said earlier, but it's funnier if the sentences aren't actually contradictory.  I don't know why it's so funny, but the Futurama writers do it all the time.  Here's a list of all the presupposition failure jokes I've found:

In 1ACV01, Leela's boss says, "it's my job to make you do your job, whether I like it or not. Which I do! Very much!"

In 1ACV03, Bender says, "You know, Fry...Of all the friends I've had, you're the first."

In 2ACV03, one of the clones, I think Jack Johnson, says, "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."

And from 2ACV14:
Farnsworth: "No, it was silly of me to object. One foot tall, eight feet, fifteen feet. What does it matter?"
Mom: "You should see the new sixteen foot models."
Farnsworth: "Sixteen feet?! Go to hell! I was a fool to think you'd changed, you old bat!"

From 2ACV16:
Hermes: "We're jerked. Nothing can stop a monster that big!"
Farnsworth: "Nothing except an even equally big monster!"

From 2ACV18:
Robot1: "Some say unholy things happen up there!"
Robot2: "For example, all of us say that."

From 3ACV05:
Farnsworth: "Well, Fry ... Or should I say .. captain Fry? No I shouldn't! Because Bender is the new captain."

From 3ACV09:
Fry: "He's a weird monster who smells like he eats garbage, and does."

From 3ACV11:
Farnsworth: "Oh don't worry Fry. I too once spent a nightmarish time in a robot asylum, but now it's nearly over. So long!"

From 3ACV17:
Scruffy: "Boy, I've never seen him so down. Or ever before."

From 4ACV03:
Planet Express Ship: "Your accountants. Oh, I would dearly love to believe that were true. So I do! I'm gonna go home and get dinner started."

From 4ACV15:
"Well getting the brain out was the easy part, the hard part was getting the brain out!"

  On the pragmatic strategy, presupposition is an estimation of the listener's knowledge.  The speaker assumes that the listener knows a certain piece of information, so it's put into the common ground.  So when the robot says "Some say unholy things happen up there," he is presumably aware that his listeners will infer that not everybody says it, through the Gricean maxim of informativity (if he had meant all of them, he would have said it).  So the "not all" interpretation of the sentence is pragmatically presupposed.  But the presupposition fails, because it's contradicted in the next sentence.  Similarly, "I've never seen him so down" pragmatically presupposes that Scruffy has seen him (Bender) before, et cetera. 
boxie

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« Reply #490 on: 04-06-2004 15:41 »

I've learned something today...
Teral

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« Reply #491 on: 04-06-2004 15:41 »

Cool, never thought about that before. I mostly laughed because the jokes were a logic contradiction. Looks like I learned something from this thread too. Much appreciated, eggs.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #492 on: 04-06-2004 15:47 »

 
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Originally posted by boxie:
Surreality and randomness...

my two favourite ingredients.

They're not bad ingredients if used sparingly, but in some later episodes, a lot of gags rely a bit too much on those two characteristics, and makes the writers seem like they're running out of the more intelligent jokes.
canned eggs

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« Reply #493 on: 04-06-2004 16:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Cool, never thought about that before. I mostly laughed because the jokes were a logic contradiction. Looks like I learned something from this thread too. Much appreciated, eggs.

Thanks.  The cool thing about presupposition failure is that really only the last example is a logical contradiction, since the presuppositions that fail aren't entailments.  So when Fry says Zoidberg "smells like he eats garbage, and does," he doesn't literally contradict himself.  He just contradicts what you assumed he meant.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #494 on: 04-06-2004 16:16 »

Do the neutral jokes count as presupposition failure jokes as well? Like "All I know is my gut says maybe" and "If I don't survive, tell my wife 'hello'".
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #495 on: 04-06-2004 16:40 »
« Last Edit on: 04-07-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Yes, there were quite a few crazy jokes in TFP. Fry's "The butter in my pocket is melting" line and also Farnsworth stating "The Bible is the real good news!" What was that about?!

Fry put butter in his pocket cause he's not realy the brightest person... 5 minutes later he wanted to take shifts untangeling christmas lights.
and "The Bible is the real good news" thing, ment it isn't good news in our universe
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #496 on: 04-06-2004 16:44 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
 Fry put better in his pocket cause he's not realy the brightest person... 5 minutes later he wanted to take shifts untangeling christmas lights.

 I got the butter thing, actually. I should've made that clearer.

 
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and "The Bible is the real good news" thing, ment it isn't good news in our universe

 I want a second opinion.  :hmpf:

SwanMan3000

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« Reply #497 on: 04-06-2004 16:47 »

im with MOV as usual. it doesnt make any sense because the only changes are coin flips and i dont recal 1 coin flip in the bible.

Jesus A; erm, should i repent all sins?

heads.

Jesus A; Damn.

Maybe its because i dont know that cant be it though.

 
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #498 on: 04-06-2004 17:30 »

The Bible is sometimes called "the good news" because it tells you about God and stuff.  It was used as a joke because the Professor always says "good news."
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #499 on: 04-06-2004 17:32 »

it also talks aboot armageddon, and the Prof always did think he'd have a part in it.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #500 on: 04-06-2004 17:33 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
The Bible is sometimes called "the good news" because it tells you about God and stuff.  It was used as a joke because the Professor always says "good news."

Yes, I know about The Good News Bible but that still doesn't explain the joke.
Levitate_Me

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« Reply #501 on: 04-06-2004 17:39 »
« Last Edit on: 04-06-2004 17:39 »

I think its just a religion joke, not all of them are winners. I think Action Jacktion pretty much nailed what the joke is susposed to be about
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #502 on: 04-06-2004 17:43 »

I'm gonna wait for Teral's answer.
Prof. Wernstrum

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« Reply #503 on: 04-06-2004 18:06 »

The full quote was:

Professor A, or maybe 1: "Good news everyones! After carefully consulting the sciptures, we've determined that none of us is evil!"
Professor 1... A... the other one: "Yes, the Bible is the real good news!"

They were reading the Bible in order to come to this decision and that does indeed say that no human is inherently evil (It isn't entirely clear on robots, mutants and alien lobsters). Professor whichever-one-it-was was simply saying how good it was that they had something to tell them that.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #504 on: 04-06-2004 18:07 »

There you go! Finally! I knew it had something to do with the previous line but I couldn't remember/be arsed to find out what it was. Thanks for that.  ;)
german fry

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« Reply #505 on: 04-07-2004 00:05 »

the butter in pocket thing.
nobody mentioned that fry is crawliong trugh a tube  with superheated steam. then he says the btter in my pocket is melting.
the joke is that the butter would have melted anyway in his pocket.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #506 on: 04-07-2004 06:42 »

Perhaps, but the real joke is why he has butter in his pocket in the first place.
SwanMan3000

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« Reply #507 on: 04-07-2004 07:19 »

its just that fry is stupid and stores butter about his person or maybe plans to eat butter by itself as does Mr Simpson
boxie

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« Reply #508 on: 04-07-2004 08:44 »
« Last Edit on: 04-07-2004 08:44 »

Wait, you mean you guys don't put butter in your pockets?
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #509 on: 04-07-2004 08:54 »

No, I usually keep ice cream in there.
boxie

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« Reply #510 on: 04-07-2004 09:09 »

Ice Cream?

Interesting...

Is that how you make Ice Cream Soup?
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #511 on: 04-07-2004 09:10 »

It is if you have holes in the inside of your pockets.
boxie

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« Reply #512 on: 04-07-2004 09:21 »

Mmmmm... MOV flavoured Ice Cream Soup!
marla_singer

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« Reply #513 on: 04-07-2004 11:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Spineless:
 It seems like she's implying that she knows because she's been there before.  Or maybe not.  It would be funny to think that someone that rich would ever spend a lot of time in a 'shanking' prison, but I suppose you never know.


so what does shank or be shanked mean? is it to do with dropping soap at the most innappropriate time?

there's another joke i thought of the other day that i don't get. like i'll remember... oh well...
boingo2000

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« Reply #514 on: 04-07-2004 11:21 »

Shank: stab with a knife, like in prison.  ie, I saw some fool get shanked the other day on block D.
marla_singer

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« Reply #515 on: 04-07-2004 11:28 »

gracias. i've not heard the term before. i'll try use it tomorrow.

oh go shank yourself.
boxie

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« Reply #516 on: 04-07-2004 12:31 »

It has a whole other meaning to me...
Ranadok

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« Reply #517 on: 04-07-2004 13:02 »
« Last Edit on: 04-08-2004 00:00 »

On the Bible thing: Translated, "Gospel" (of which the Bible if full, ie. "The Gospel According to Mark" ) means "good news". Just thought I'd throw that out there, as I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: I should mention, that is only one of several translations, but the one that is relevant.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #518 on: 04-14-2004 16:14 »

In "Why must I be a crustacean in love", what does the High Priest Decapodian mean when he says, "Fry having guessed the animal I was thinking of, you have the first choice of weapons?
Teral

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« Reply #519 on: 04-14-2004 16:19 »

Exactly that. Fry won the draw to chose weapon by guessing what animal the king where thinking of. The thing is these draws are usually done by a coin-toss or another way that would exclude cheating. Having to guess what animal a person is thinking of, and then trust him when he say which person won is a bit stupid, especially in a fight to the death.
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