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TheLampIncident

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« Reply #40 on: 05-11-2004 18:32 »

There are some things I blame Ken Keeler for in the run of this show, and it's obvious he wrote this. Fry was ultra shippy, Leela was ultra bitchy, and Zoidberg was ultra pathetic. He has a knack for writing good plot lines, but the characters always act too melodramatic in his episodes. However, I did like the concept of time skips, using that concept they were able to save a lot of time and put more material in which is always a plus. I have to say at the end, instead of crying, it's one of those things where you feel so bad you actually laugh but it's not a normal "haha" laugh, it's more like a "ha! ha!" shocked laugh. You tend to feel a little worse for Bender because he cries. Really, why the hell was Bubblegum Tate so hard on him? That made me angry, because it was seemingly unprovoked. I can't make up my mind on what to rate it overall...these were just my thoughts.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #41 on: 05-11-2004 21:53 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 Really, why the hell was Bubblegum Tate so hard on him? That made me angry, because it was seemingly unprovoked.

Because even though Bender is a great guy who we all love, he dont have the heart of a GlobeTrotter.

...plus he aint Black.
Alliteration

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« Reply #42 on: 05-11-2004 22:13 »

Deal with it.

Haha Bubblegum Tate has some funny lines though!
fussili
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« Reply #43 on: 05-11-2004 22:17 »
« Last Edit on: 05-11-2004 22:17 »

Personally this episode ranks high on my list based almost entirely upon Bubblegum Tate's entrance and first line:

"For generations, your puny planet has lived in peace with the Globetrotter Homeworld. But now, for no reason, we challenge you to defend your honor on the basketball court. Will no one meet our challenge!? Have none of you pathetic Earthlings game!?"


Fry: What's at Stake?
Bubblegum: Absolutely nothing!!

 Absolute pure genius. I agree with the note re: the plotline. Fry's sadness wasn't really mitigated by any sort of feeling that he'd learnt something - it was just hopeless at the end.

 Frankly if I had been watching without knowing the entirety of Futurama's span I'd have probably been a bit distraught - it crushes the fry/leela dynamic right after bringing it to a head in the most appalingly misjudged display of brinkmanship.

Of course, the fact that the episode was hilarious does make up for it   :)
scooty puff snr

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« Reply #44 on: 05-11-2004 22:24 »

Absolutly loved it. One of the best episodes ever. I loved that Fry was doing so much to try win Leela's heart he's so pathetic it's cute. The globetrotters were funny and i really want that T-shirt that Amy wore to the Basketball game. I did feel really sorry for poor Bender though.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #45 on: 05-11-2004 22:24 »

I really dislike this episode, because:

1) The atomic monsters were uninteresting and unappealing. After so many jokes about Fransworth wanting to making atomic monsters you'd think it'd end up being something grand, but the atomic men he created were all generic and kinda ugly. The only one of them I found likable was the spider guy, he was kinda cute, too bad they killed him. The atomic monsters should have been more like Kaiju (Japanese monsters)

2) Fry and Leela getting a divorce was so sad, I mean Fry and Leela are true lovers, and their final divorce seemed to permanently destroy this perferct (maybe too perfect) couple. It was like Homer and Marge getting a divorce, or Peter and Lois getting a divorce, or Jay Sherman and Alice Tompkins breaking up (which sadly did happen). The ending, unlike that of "Parasites Lost", offered no real hope for Fry to ever get back with Leela again, and it wasn't until the start of the fourth production season that Leela acted even remotely nice to Fry again. I hope that Matt and David resolve this someday and fully explain why Fry and Leela divorced. (oh, and they didn't get divorced because Leela thought Fry tricked her. The divorce happened during the time skips, and during the time skips Leela knew why she married Fry.)

3) The gags about time skips and Bender wanting to be a Globetrotter and always getting turned down were overused to the point where they weren't even remotely funny.

4) Amy and Nibbler did pretty much nothing in this ep. God, they are underratted.

5) the premise of this episode was a bit too wierd for me. I know that Futurama has always been weird, but older eps. had character and humor to go along with the weirdness, whereas in this ep., the time skips didn't really give any of the characters a chance to do what they do best: be funny or emote
But, I did think that Zoidberg was funny (as usual) in this ep. and I liked the ref. to W.C. Fields. Also, I think this ep. is a bit better than "A Leela of her own", "A Pharoah to remember" or (shudder) "Futurestock".
Venus

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« Reply #46 on: 05-11-2004 22:40 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
I hope that Matt and David resolve this someday and fully explain why Fry and Leela divorced. (oh, and they didn't get divorced because Leela thought Fry tricked her. The divorce happened during the time skips, and during the time skips Leela knew why she married Fry.)

Not true. The only time skip where she knew why she married Fry was during the time skip that took place directly before the wedding. They don't get their memories back during each time skip. Anything that happens to them during each time skip is lost to them forever.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #47 on: 05-11-2004 22:58 »

I think this is a very under-rated episode... This episode had it all, a lot of comedy, and it was good for all you shippers out there
Logan Fils

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« Reply #48 on: 05-11-2004 23:59 »
« Last Edit on: 08-01-2012 13:44 »

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Crash_7

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« Reply #49 on: 05-13-2004 01:21 »

I couldn't get too mad with Leela in this episode.  She blew up Fry's love note in the stars, but she didn't mean to do it.  She didn't even know it was there.  If I was going to be mad with Leela it would be for her treatment of Fry in "Parasites Lost".  It seemed to me that she had no regard for his feelings in that episode.  She was more interested in building (or the worms building anyway) her perfect boyfriend.  And then when he risks his life doing the right and noble thing by getting rid of the worms, she kicks him out.
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #50 on: 05-13-2004 19:55 »

I've only seen it the one time and maybe it jerked around too fast for me to really appreciate it... It was almost unique though and for what it is worth I think it worked mostly. I never did get why they don't remember what happened in between though.  :confused: The ending though was great, I loved seeing Fry find out what he did only to see it blow up in his face,so very bittersweet. So for me, 4/5 stars.
CrazyDoc

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« Reply #51 on: 05-13-2004 20:49 »

I love this episode. Good solid old sci-fi plot with some hilarious gags and a memorable guest character. I personally loved the Fry/Leela dynamic. A+, one of the best.
Venus

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« Reply #52 on: 05-13-2004 21:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Crash_7:
then when he risks his life doing the right and noble thing by getting rid of the worms, she kicks him out.

In Leela's defense she didn't know that Fry risked his life. All he said was that he got rid of the worms, he never specified as to how he went about that. And she didn't kick him out until after he started talking about Amy. She seemed unsure of what to do, until Amy's name came up. Had he not mentioned her Leela might have decided to give him another chance.
Crash_7

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« Reply #53 on: 05-14-2004 22:33 »

I suppose.  But I still think she was displaying an all too common female characteristic...the urge to change her man into something she wanted rather than loving him for what he was.  BTW, I'm referring to "Parasites Lost".  I realize we're going off the original topic here.  :)
Teral

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« Reply #54 on: 05-15-2004 04:16 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 04:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Crash_7:
  And then when he risks his life doing the right and noble thing by getting rid of the worms, she kicks him out.

Technically Fry didn't risk his life, a minidroid did the sword-fighting. And I agree with Venus' post above. Leelas "I love what you've become, Fry" is only outdone by Frys "one of the backrubs I used to give Amy when we were dating". If you're trying to woo/score with a women bringing up former girlfriends really is a bad idea.
Crash_7

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« Reply #55 on: 05-15-2004 12:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
  Technically Fry didn't risk his life, a minidroid did the sword-fighting.

Yes he did.  He was going to kill himself if they didn't leave.

3/4 of a Jesus

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« Reply #56 on: 05-15-2004 12:18 »

Welcome to PEEL, Crash_7, and have a good time here! You look like you know what you're doing, but if you have any questions, there's a FAQ here.  :D

Anyway.... TKOS is an overall good episode, but it's not quite as good as god-like episodes such as Godfellas, Parasites Lost, and Amazon Women in the Mood. However, I love Bubblegum Tate, but still Fry's hopes being completely crushed as well as Bender's is a hell of a downer, but sometimes, if you're in the mood for it, it's a good thing to watch. I'd give it a B+. Good, but could be a little better.
Crash_7

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« Reply #57 on: 05-15-2004 18:16 »

It's an "ok" episode.  I liked the idea of the time slips.  Really, it was the Globetrotters I had a problem with.  For a second, I thought I had on the wrong channel and was watching Scooby Doo.   :)
Spacedal11

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« Reply #58 on: 05-24-2004 17:45 »

I'm wondering, we all know that Leela really loves Fry. But she said in this episode something like "I'll never love you the way you love me." But in such episodes as the Sting she went insane that she cared so much that she killed him. So was that an error of speech or that's what she thought?
Crash_7

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« Reply #59 on: 05-24-2004 18:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
I'm wondering, we all know that Leela really loves Fry. But she said in this episode something like "I'll never love you the way you love me." But in such episodes as the Sting she went insane that she cared so much that she killed him. So was that an error of speech or that's what she thought?

She never actually says that.  Fry says it to her (the reverse actually) and she kinda sadly says, "I guess not." and follows it up with a gentle peck on the cheek.  Really, she rejected him so kindly and sweetly in that episode that it really made him love her that much more.  But yeah, it was what she THOUGHT.  Not necessarily what she FELT, though.  Her feelings for him are a bit complicated.  :)

Cloud 9

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« Reply #60 on: 05-26-2004 09:49 »

Yeah, as rejections go, Leela was pretty gentle right then. And also, her decision to let Fry pilot the ship, while it made her miss his star message, kinda made up for it. After all, Fry was talking about how great she was right after that. But, the fact stands that she never shoulda turned him down to begin with.  ;)
Dannilicious

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« Reply #61 on: 05-26-2004 10:49 »

Good episode, but not the best. I loved the whole time skip thing, I loved the Professor in this episode...how eager he is to defend the honor of the planet via a basketball game. o.0;; Weird, but just so proffessor like...I know, I make no sense.

I also like the sad ending. I love how Leela rejects Fry, because it's so realistic, and I'm sure most of us have been through similar experiences with girls (those of us who like girls, anyway)...it was just deja-vu for me, as sad as it sounds. =P Bender was cute, too, with the whistling at all. Good episode, but not the best...3.5/5
j_ohanley

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« Reply #62 on: 05-27-2004 22:02 »

Loved this one, it just barely misses my top ten. I heard something about Matt and David expressing their dislike for this episode on the commentary, could anyone elaborate slightly?
Davey

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« Reply #63 on: 05-30-2004 10:28 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
I really dislike this episode, because:

4) Amy and Nibbler did pretty much nothing in this ep. God, they are underratted.


WEll Spl'uh! They're not very good charcters that aren't too interesting sure nibblers cute but apart from in TDTESS and TWOF he's crud... and Amy don't get em started on Amy! Mars' most annoying person! (bar her parents)
pokemaster

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« Reply #64 on: 05-30-2004 12:57 »

I really liked it. My favourite bit was where Fry talks to Leela then time skips and you see Fry whith a black eye.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #65 on: 05-30-2004 23:59 »

This may be discussed a million times before, or its just plain obvious;

When the Professor shows the crew the 'Atomic Super Men' - the Professor says a line very like from the film, 'Bride of the Monster'.

I forget the exact line, but if anyone knows what the hell I'm talking about - was 'Times Keeps on Slippin'' partly-loosely based on the film, 'Bride of the Monster'?

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, 'Bride of the Monster' is about a "mad" professor (Bela Lugosi) trying to create 'Atomic Supermen' with the help of his sea-creature & side-kick to take over the world (its the 50's, people, and its from Ed Wood - 'nuff said).
canned eggs

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« Reply #66 on: 05-31-2004 00:26 »

The Futurama line is: "Behold: My mutant atomic supermen!" But he later says "Behold: My invincible nuclear mutants!"

Farnsworth has another line that sounds like Bride of the monster.  His "I'll build someone to fill in for you. Some kind of gamma powered mechanical monster, with freeway on-ramps for arms and a heart as black as coal..." line in Bender Gets Made.

I dunno if the "Behold!" line is actually in Bride of the monster, but it probably is.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #67 on: 05-31-2004 21:18 »

I just feel like Leela never loves Fry because she's so picky. I mean she never says the words "I love you too Fry." And she has complicated feelings. I'm just upset with her about that.
sonic116

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« Reply #68 on: 05-31-2004 21:20 »

come to my futurama rpg topic
Alliteration

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« Reply #69 on: 05-31-2004 22:12 »

Thats usually not the best way to get people to come to your topic.

Try to stay on topic.
Gleno

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« Reply #70 on: 06-01-2004 11:09 »

Can't believe I've never posted in this one....TKOS is probably my favourite ep of Futurama....!

I love the Globetrotters (for NO reason....!) Fry's "Ooh ooh ooh put me in Professor....!" etc then the time skip to Bubblegum throwing the ball over his head.... :laff:

Zoidberg alone at his birthday, the way Fry moved the stars themselves for Leela....and the sad ending was great for a change....

I'm not a shipper, but I do love the whole Fry/Leela thing and I thought they moved ahead with their relationship well in this one....even though Leela is none the wiser at the end, Fry knows that anything is possible....


I.C.Weiner

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« Reply #71 on: 06-13-2004 03:34 »

it is one of my favorite episodes
Super CheekyBab

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« Reply #72 on: 06-13-2004 14:35 »

Its Cool!
Zeep

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« Reply #73 on: 06-14-2004 11:13 »

thank you so much for your amazing input, super cheekybab.

please, don't post pointless messages. it's annoying for me, it's annoying for other people, and it will be annoying for you when other people are annoyed by you.

as for me, i thibnk i already posted my thoughts on TKOS, but in case i haven't, this was probably my favorite ep. the combination of shippines, and weird humor like the globetrotters gave the episode a great balance of love, sadness, and laughing-ness.
Jeffbot

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« Reply #74 on: 06-14-2004 15:43 »

This episode is one of my favorites, if not favorite all time.  Flawless mix of humor and drama.  Almost every character had at least one great line...this sets the bar for other episodes to go by.
pumpkinpie

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« Reply #75 on: 09-05-2011 08:18 »

I had to notice, in the wedding scene, where Fry kisses Leela, she fights back for a bit, but then, when the commercial ends and the show comes back on, she seems to be kissing him back, strange ;)
DannyJC13

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« Reply #76 on: 09-05-2011 17:37 »

I had to notice, in the wedding scene, where Fry kisses Leela, she fights back for a bit, but then, when the commercial ends and the show comes back on, she seems to be kissing him back, strange ;)

Fry probably forced her into him. :p After all, it may have been the only chance he ever got. :D
transgender nerd under canada

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« Reply #77 on: 09-05-2011 18:07 »

Fry probably forced her into him. :p

Reading this out of context... oh dear God, the images. No! Please, no!
sparkybarky

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« Reply #78 on: 09-05-2011 22:19 »
« Last Edit on: 09-05-2011 22:21 »

Fry probably forced her into him. :p
Reading this out of context... oh dear God, the images. No! Please, no!


Well, you know, she is the dominant one of the two, so that wouldn't really stretch believability....
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #79 on: 09-05-2011 22:43 »
« Last Edit on: 09-05-2011 22:45 »

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I had to notice, in the wedding scene, where Fry kisses Leela, she fights back for a bit, but then, when the commercial ends and the show comes back on, she seems to be kissing him back, strange
I guess it was a change in storyboard layout:
- First planned time jump: To the time when they already were declared man and wife, when Leela "woke up" during the kiss.
- They changed the scene to include the "declare you man and wife" phrase by preacherbot. and either forgot to adjust the faces during the kiss, or didn't care ("What the heck...no one will notice, and we're on a budget")
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