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« on: 04-01-2003 12:30 »
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Well, last time i did this it caused abit of discussion, but times have changed. We now have 2 DVD boxsets released and FOX have decided to cancel Futurama, these may change your opinions. I've provided a range of options for you all.
I think it's fine to download episodes, especially if you don't live in the USA. It's the only way i can see the new episodes and C4 cut the episodes. I never realised how funny bits of How Hermes Requisitioned his Groove Back were (the Fry/Proctor stuff) as they were cut.
Last time we got too much into downloading episodes, please avoid:
- Talking about how to download
- Talking about your collection
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MuscaDomestica

Professor

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I download the episodes... only because if I didn’t I would just tape them. I see no real difference. I also buy the DVDs when they are released for the extra features and the fact I am showing support for the Show.
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ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
DOOP Secretary

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I download them, and I do not feel guilty for it. It would take years before the latest episodes are aired in my area.
To me, it feels the same as watching them on TV, or taping them, and it 's not as if I don't support The Curiosity Company and (hate to admit it: ) Fox. I bought the season 1 and season 2 DVD's.
Once I get the other DVD's I plan to delete the episodes from my HDD.
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Damitol

Bending Unit
  
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« Reply #7 on: 04-01-2003 13:25 »
« Last Edit on: 04-01-2003 13:25 »
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May is when official cancellations will be made public, so we have a few more weeks. As to downloading, I don't because I'm still dial-up, but I am videotaping the Cartoon Network reruns (and I have all of the newer ones taped off of Fox), so I don't see a big difference.
However - I did buy the Season 1 DVDs and I will buy all other sets as they become available in R1 (hurry up September!), but as long as you are not paying money or charging money for a download, then I don't see the real issue. Just promise to buy the DVDs if at all possible so Groening and Co. get paid as they more then deserve, and I say download away.
I can't believe, given the choice and if they actually had the money to buy them, anyone who goes to the trouble of downloading would not rather have the DVDs. As noted above, downloads tend to be inferior to even a VHS recording of a show on cheap tape.
If someone honestly can't afford the DVDs (and if you have broadband internet that would be a very, very hard case to prove) or geographically has no other choice, then it's not like anyone is really losing out on a sale due to the download. The real loser is FOX for not recognizing and taking advantage of the real potential of this show. It could easily have been their #2 show, second only to the Simpsons worldwide, meaning hundreds of millions in potential revenue they pissed away.
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Tzlk
Professor

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Well I try my best to see futurama evey sunday and you can bet your pennies that Im buying the DVDs and whatnot. I dont see much of a problem with it.
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Bend-err

DOOP Secretary

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I downloaded all the episodes, cause I have to wait too long sice they'll air in germany. I also don't like the german translation. But I'm going to buy the DVDs.
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Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
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I'm basically in the same boat as Ricky.
I wrote probably about 2 snailmails and 2 dozen emails to TV2ZULU asking them when Futurama would return to the airwaves. Time and again they told me "soon", and on 3 occasions actually gave me a date, only to postpone it another 6 months (which they only told me after a new email).
Now they finally started airing them again, but in the meantime TV2Zulu have change from public tv to pay-tv (around 15-20 bucks/month). I love Futurama, but no way in hell would I pay that amount to see just one show, when the season 3 and 4 DVD's will be out within a year.
If I didn't have the oppurtunity to get episode on the net I would still be around AOI I, or so in the run.
I have both DVD sets, all the comics, the 2002 and 2003 calendars, and a few other stuff. So I really don't see how they could claim they've lost money on me downloading the eps.
I voted for option 1. Yes, it's illegal, but what choice do we have? It's not like I didn't try.
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Smitty

Professor

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Well the only reason I download episodes is to transcribe them at TNP as early as possible. If I didn't do that then I would probably wait until the episodes came round on Sky and then ask someone to tape them for me. And I only ever watch downloaded episodes a few times because the quality is so bad anyway.
Its not like we all download them then sell them to people (at least I don't...) so its hardly illegal. I think its fine if you know you won't see the episode for a long time.
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FishyJoe

Honorary German
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Bottom line is, downloading has gained more fans for Futurama than lost them. By Oni Zyxer: The only way it could be immoral is if you download as apposed to buying the DVD's, like, 'I don't need the DVD's, I've got all the eps on my computer'. THAT'S wrong. But going back to the tape comparison, how is that any worse than saying "well I've already recorded all the episodes, I don't need to buy the dvds". I don't think either is "wrong", I just think it's stupid. Who would want vhs tapes or crappy low-quality video files, when they could have clean looking, organized dvds with sexxy commentary? Honestly I'll be glad when I can finally delete all these episodes that have been taking up half my hard-drive space.
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SQFreak

Professor

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OK by me. The quality is simply better than my tapes.
That said, I'm a US resident, and imported the S1 and S2 DVDs from the UK. I'm going to England this summer (will arrive June 8th) and will pick up the S3 DVDs while I'm there. FOX got a whole lot more of my money than they deserve.
I watch them on FOX and CN, so the advertisers get their money's worth. But there's a computer in my room and no VCR, so I can watch the eps in my room if I have them in electronic format. I also like burning VCDs so I can watch them on my DVD players (R1 locked - stupid Pioneer).
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YoungHov116

Crustacean

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I watch the show, i tape the show, i download the show, i buy the show when i is released on DVD. Its just another way to see your favorite TV show any time that you want.
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