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Dr_Dave

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« on: 01-17-2003 12:21 »

Well, FOX has announced renewals for two more years of the Simpsons and one more year of King of the Hill.  No mention of Futurama (surprise, surprise).  I guess that's the last nail in the coffin.  Nothing to do now but wait for the formal cancellation announcement in May.

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/17/television.simpsons.reut/index.html
Smitty

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« Reply #1 on: 01-17-2003 12:29 »

Bastards.
bankrupt

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« Reply #2 on: 01-17-2003 12:31 »

Wow, now there's a shocker.  We do get another year of KOH though!  Barf.
blahness

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« Reply #3 on: 01-17-2003 12:33 »

the simpsons 2 year deal is of no surprise i read about it in an al jean interview a couple weeks ago.. just hope futurama isnt on the other list :*(
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #4 on: 01-17-2003 12:38 »

FOX is cutting in their own skin by cancelling a good show whilst letting two other bad shows continue.
I don't see how they can benefit from this. People must get tired of the Simpsons and KOTH some day.

It was the same deal with the X-files. Instead of putting it out of its misery, they let it die slowly. The spin offs also failed. (were Millenium and Three Lone Gunmen also on Fox?)
SQFreak

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« Reply #5 on: 01-17-2003 12:41 »

 
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus:
(were Millenium and Three Lone Gunmen also on Fox?)

Yes. And they died extraordinarily quickly.
Some would say that Futurama is a spinoff of the Simpsons. I (and most of us here) disagree.

It was The Lone Gunmen. I watched one episode and it was so horrible I couldn't go on.

McGrady

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« Reply #6 on: 01-17-2003 12:43 »

I would be surprised if they even got done by may, the way it is going.

I think they will stop this season in Mid-April and have the last few episodes as filler for football next year.
Smitty

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« Reply #7 on: 01-17-2003 12:45 »

I don't why anyone *ever* said Futurama was a spinoff of The Simpsons. The sort of people who said that are the sort of people who don't know what spinoff means. Futurama has *nothing* in common with The Simpsons except the artwork is similar because they were both created by Matt Groening.
blahness

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« Reply #8 on: 01-17-2003 12:47 »

 
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Originally posted by Smitty:
I don't why anyone *ever* said Futurama was a spinoff of The Simpsons. The sort of people who said that are the sort of people who don't know what spinoff means. Futurama has *nothing* in common with The Simpsons except the artwork is similar because they were both created by Matt Groening.

those sort of people probably never have actually watched futurama


evan

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« Reply #9 on: 01-17-2003 13:09 »

 
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Originally posted by McGrady:
I think they will stop this season in Mid-April and have the last few episodes as filler for football next year.

This is becoming more and more likely.  :mad:

"King of the Hill" survives? Who the hell actually likes that show? "Futurama" a spin-off of "The Simpsons?" That's like saying "King of the Hill" is a spin-off of "Beavis and Butthead".

Oh, and I really think we all should make a pact. After Futurama is done, none of us can watch FOX anymore. It's not like we'd really miss that much, aside from a few weak Simpsons episodes.
Kryten

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« Reply #10 on: 01-17-2003 13:22 »

Oh, come on now... was anyone REALLY surprised?  :rolleyes:
Mike!

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« Reply #11 on: 01-17-2003 13:51 »

No surprises there.  I just think it's absolutely stupid to let The Simpsons go on for this long.  I'm sre most of its viewers must watch it out of habit now, rather than expecting a good half an hour's entertainment.  By the time the show does get cancelled, there'll be more bad seasons than good ones.  :(

As for Futurama, at least it'll never sink as low as The Simpsons has.
SQFreak

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« Reply #12 on: 01-17-2003 13:55 »

And, with any luck, after the formal announcement, Cartoon Network will buy new episode rights.

Let's just hold out hope, okay?
M5438

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« Reply #13 on: 01-17-2003 14:09 »

 
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
And, with any luck, after the formal announcement, Cartoon Network will buy new episode rights.

Let's just hold out hope, okay?

If the ratings stay as good as they have been CN may actually be willing and able to scrape together the financing to do that.
aslate

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« Reply #14 on: 01-17-2003 14:28 »

Again, that's wishful thinking, but we can only hope.

Ok, hands up who didn't expect this news?
Teral

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« Reply #15 on: 01-17-2003 15:23 »

:: points :: That guy over there. Lets get him.

Of course it comes as no surprise. The petition, the syndication deal with CN, the Emmy, various nominations, and not a single word from FOX, other than the automated emails from AskFOX.

This was a decision made almost a year ago.

Am I the only one here, who can't stand KOTH? And are sickened by the fact that it may outlive Futurama? Okay, I thought so, but still had to be sure.
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #16 on: 01-17-2003 15:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Oh, come on now... was anyone REALLY surprised?   :rolleyes:



Not really, but it gives everyone a chance to vent.
iliketowankalot

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« Reply #17 on: 01-17-2003 15:45 »

whats happened to all the animators and writers anyway, have they moved onto other shows or are thay all homeless like Sarge?
Its hard to see them getting the old team back.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #18 on: 01-17-2003 15:50 »
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Yeah, and what about the poor Korean animator slaves?
FishyJoe

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« Reply #19 on: 01-17-2003 16:23 »
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Granted, I don't watch a lot of TV, but I haven't seen the writers on anything else. (Lewis Morton was a producer or something on Undeclared, but that show is cancelled now, too) I think they really are homeless.

Hopefully Kristin Gore let all the other writers move in with her, at her parent's house, and they can write a sitcom for Al Gore.
evan

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« Reply #20 on: 01-17-2003 17:17 »

You know, I bet that if Al Gore won the presidency in 2000, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

"Fox, you either buy new episodes of my daughter's show or I'll have you labeled commies and thrown in jail!"

Another reason why Bush is a bad choice for president.
Zed 85

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« Reply #21 on: 01-17-2003 17:42 »

I'm still looking out for any news that FOX are serious about a Futurama movie (they seem to mention it in a C&D they sent to TLZ, although my hunch is that they forgot to scribble out that field in the form)

But again, this is just trying to look for some reasoning in FOX's motives.  :nono:
What kinda fool am I?

How difficult would it be to say "The Simpsons has come to an end, after 15 (ahem) glorious years, but why not enjoy this, you simple-minded drones, something that is not too disimilar in animation?' That's all FOX has to do, just drop The Simpsons and promote Futurama and they'll have no problem with ratings at all...
Smitty

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« Reply #22 on: 01-17-2003 17:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Oh, come on now... was anyone REALLY surprised?   :rolleyes:

I knew it all along. I just didn't want to believe it  :(
Teral

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« Reply #23 on: 01-17-2003 17:58 »

"You can't give up hope, just because it's hopeless. You got to hope even more and cover your ears and go blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-..."
clampybot

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« Reply #24 on: 01-17-2003 18:11 »
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2 more years is that all!

oh wait I just heard the 16th season will have 360 eps allowing the characters to go beyond places maybe Mr Burns dies or Milhouse's parents back together the aswers will be filled in 2005!   :D
PCC Fred

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« Reply #25 on: 01-17-2003 18:13 »

I'm still not giving up hope.  It's possible we've only heard about the Simpsons and KOTH because they're more high profile shows than Futurama.

In any case - In my eyes Futurama ain't dead until FOX say it's cancelled.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #26 on: 01-17-2003 18:14 »

Two more years of Simpsons? They're already digging the bottom of the barrel with plots now!
Juliet

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« Reply #27 on: 01-17-2003 21:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Dr_Dave:
Well, FOX has announced renewals for two more years of the Simpsons and one more year of King of the Hill.  No mention of Futurama (surprise, surprise).  I guess that's the last nail in the coffin.  Nothing to do now but wait for the formal cancellation announcement in May.

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/17/television.simpsons.reut/index.html

Assholes
  :mad:
Bakntime

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« Reply #28 on: 01-17-2003 22:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
Two more years of Simpsons? They're already digging the bottom of the barrel with plots now!

Seriously, how bad has this show become.  I have a tough time watching it anymore (besides the syndicated re-runs of seasons 3-7, of course  :D ) The Simpsons is now at least 3 or so years beyond when it should have ended, and now another 2 years???  Ugh.

And King of the Hill????   :rolleyes:  Haven't we seen enough of this yet, too?

It's a shame that all it would have taken for Futurama to be more successful on FOX was a little promotion and a good time slot.  It really does seem like FOX wanted the show to fail - which is bizarre considering how long they've dragged out Groening's Simpsons.  Something tells me there's something strange going on over at FOX besides them just being oblivious, stupid idiots.
SQFreak

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« Reply #29 on: 01-17-2003 22:33 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
In any case - In my eyes Futurama ain't dead until FOX say it's cancelled.

And even then it's not dead. Cartoon Network (I think) has the distinct possibility of picking up new episodes, even if they do decrease the amount of 3D stuff, etc. to cut expenditure. I'll bet that Matt Groening and David X. Cohen would be agreeable to that, just to keep the show alive.

bart182

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« Reply #30 on: 01-17-2003 23:05 »

I dunno why everyone is complaining that koth sucks... i like koth a lot.  deserves to get renewed.  but futurama deserves it more.  the simpsons suck, they need to die.  but, i think futurama, koth, simpsons, and mitm should have all been renewed  :(

hell, i miss titus...  :(  I think the perfect fox sunday would be simpsons at 8, mitm at 8:30, koth at 9, and since fox is always saying futurama is so adult-y, have it on at 9:30.  to me, thatd be a perfect fox sunday... and if they didnt want to start things off at 8, they could put koth on at 7, futuram next, simpsons next, mitm next, titus next, and then grounded for life or something.
Erdrik

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« Reply #31 on: 01-18-2003 02:23 »
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Personaly If 'hell freezes over', the space time continuim has a hic-up, and Fox actualy does renew Futurama, I'll be pissed.   :mad:
Becuase they'll just use it for Football filler for another 3 years. I don't want those assholes controling futurama any long than possible! They probly did this hiatus thing to get rid of the writers and get new ones that'll use they're stupid ass retarded ideas.
I say we all email CN and pressure them into buying the rights to new eps. Fox may have ignored us, but thats to be expected. Maybe CN will actualy listen! Hell From what I can tell CN is probly run by a bunch of Nerds anyway, so we'd be on the same wavelength... or something... lol   :laff:

EDIT I just sent an email to 'adultswim@turner.com' expressing my gratitude for getting Futurama, I also suggested to them to look into getting the rights to produce and air new episodes. I suggest ya'll do the same! Come ON!
Show them the Love!
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #32 on: 01-18-2003 06:34 »

 
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
 And even then it's not dead. Cartoon Network (I think) has the distinct possibility of picking up new episodes, even if they do decrease the amount of 3D stuff, etc. to cut expenditure. I'll bet that Matt Groening and David X. Cohen would be agreeable to that, just to keep the show alive.

And even if the 3D stuff gets reduced, there's still the possibility of a movie trilogy that could have tons of 3D eye candy  :)
transgender nerd under canada

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« Reply #33 on: 01-18-2003 07:12 »

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
 :finger:  :mad: FOX MUST DIE!!!!111OneOneOne
I expected this, but it doesn't make me any less angry  :nono:
PCC Fred

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« Reply #34 on: 01-18-2003 07:46 »

Let's get this straight - there has been no word yet as to whether Futurama's been cancelled or not.  Look at the following link:

 http://www.tvguidelive.com/update/renewals.html

Also click on the "Taking a Break" and "Cancellation" buttons at the top of the screen.  Futurama is not on any of these lists, so we have to assume FOX haven't yet made a final desicion.
Carbito

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« Reply #35 on: 01-18-2003 09:18 »

  :mad: I hate FOX!!  :mad:
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #36 on: 01-18-2003 09:26 »

The reason The simpsons is still on is because they are milking the money and the show dry out of it. Like the last season or two of the X-Files when they had that Doget guy come in because there was still money to be had even after the first guy left the show.

Futurama on the other had doesn't have the rateings and it's not a money makeing show.

Fox just cares about the money just like everyone even if they are rich assholes.
DBCrader

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« Reply #37 on: 01-18-2003 13:15 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 This is becoming more and more likely.   :mad:

"King of the Hill" survives? Who the hell actually likes that show? "Futurama" a spin-off of "The Simpsons?" That's like saying "King of the Hill" is a spin-off of "Beavis and Butthead".


      Though Hank Hill seems to be a spin-off on Beavis & Buttheads perpetually befuddled neighbor, Tom Anderson...

DBCrader

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« Reply #38 on: 01-18-2003 13:21 »

 
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Originally posted by blahness:
the simpsons 2 year deal is of no surprise i read about it in an al jean interview a couple weeks ago.. just hope futurama isnt on the other list :*(

    IT'S OVER!!!!  Get used to it...  I think FOX letting it go to Cartoon Network, instead of re-running it on their own affiliates ad infinitum, ala THE SIMPSONS was a pretty good sign that FUTURAMA is kaput, as far as FOX is concerned...

    And, even if it ends now, with 72 episodes... that's a good run... that's about what most popular Saturday morning stuff does...  BATMAN:TAS had around 75 episodes in its first incarnation...  So, we can watch Cartoon Network for the episodes FOX refuses to air, and hope they carry thru with the DVD releases... and start picking up the FUTURAMA comic... and pray for a movie...  and the video game...

payndz

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« Reply #39 on: 01-18-2003 13:55 »

It's a damn shame that Futurama didn't reach 79 episodes, just to add even *more* meaning to Bender's comment in WNFHGB about science fiction shows cancelled before their time. It would have been a nice bit of symmetry...
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