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MelBee
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Usually these spin-off shows get heaps of hype by the networks... like frasier for example... but not futurama. Plus they killed off the Critic, which I loved too! And we have so many Simpsons reruns on TV... surely new Futurama has to be better than that...
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MelBee
Professor
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I can understand that the networks want the ratings - that's what they're all about, hate it though we may. But you would expect a regular slot and some decent advertising to at least give the show a chance! From what I've heard, Fox never really gave it a chance at all. But correct me if I'm wrong. I was just wondering if anyone knew why...
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TheMadCapper
Fluffy
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Fox did a good job promoting the show before it premiered... but because it wasn't an instant smash hit, they stopped promoting it and kept on pushing the Simpsons. They already had a Groening cash cow, why bother building a fanbase for a new one when the old one does fine. I thin the only reason they let Groening make Futurama in the first place was because he insisted.
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MelBee
Professor
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Ahhhh, damn those dumb Foxies.
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Loki
Professor
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Why does Fox hate Futurama so? Why leaves are green, the sky is blue and the ice is cold? Oh... no matter Maybe they are really dumb, close-minded, lost in stereotypes... They don't understand a new show, with smart humor (The humor in Simpsons is mostly dumb...). They need something more plain and clear. Head-asses.
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Loki
Professor
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Oh, cum on, maybe 10 or 5 years ago Simpsons were good enough, 'pioneers'. But now they are just a soapy soap. The endless agony, without a single tied plot. The parody on an American family have been washed out...
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MelBee
Professor
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I still do love the Simpsons, and yes, it is better than most of what's on TV at the moment, but the plots are so ridiculous these days it almost makes me cringe, and no amount of their 'we know this is another silly plot' jokes is going to help! But even if Fox does hate Futurama for said reasons, why the reluctance to release the episodes on video/DVD (especially in America??)? Surely this is another good way to squeeze money out of a show, even if they view it to be failing?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by MelBee: But even if Fox does hate Futurama for said reasons, why the reluctance to release the episodes on video/DVD (especially in America??)? Surely this is another good way to squeeze money out of a show, even if they view it to be failing? Because FOX want to make as much money on syndication deals as possible. Episodes on region 1 DVD's seriously diminish the value of the show.
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MelBee
Professor
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Wow, that sucks. Greedy Foxies.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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It's called the free market, actually not such a bad system. Afterall it was all the profit The Simpsons made them, that made them believe Matt could catch lightning in a bottle twice. He did, unfortunately the show wasn't what FOX had imagined.
Just listen to the audio commentaries on the season 1 DVD. They heard one reamark from Matt and David that some gizmo, or concept, in the show was similar to something on the Jetsons, and they emmidiately thought it was just like the Jetsons.
"Standard caution on the probe-u-lator" anyone?
Another reason why they didn't favor Futurama was that Matt told them to keep their bright ideas to themself. It was his concept or no show at all. FOX didn't take that in good mood.
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Defprun
Crustacean
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I wish the Fox execs would die a horrible, horrible death.
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DBCrader
Crustacean
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FOX hates FUTURAMA for two reasons...
Reason The First: It wasn't THE SIMPSONS IN SPACE, which is what they were looking for, hence, they do not understand it...
Reason The Second: They don't OWN it... unlike THE SIMPSONS, which FOX owns, Matt Groening owns FURURAMA... so, FOX can't make big bucks re-runnung FUTURAMA on all its affiliates ad infinitum...
and of course...
Reason The Third: They ARE stupid!!!
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Jrrr Poppler
Crustacean
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I hate Fox more than anything in the world, for what they did to Futurama and Family Guy.
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Grim
Professor
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Actually Crader you will find that Fox does own the rights to Futurama. Groening sold all the rights to it bar the Publishing rights which Groening's Publishing house Bongo still retains.
I believe our only hope is the Cartoon Network, if it rates well there Fox might do a back-flip and give it some good treatment.
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marla_singer
Bending Unit
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is there seriously anything that can be done to bring futurama back? we never saw family guy here in aus i don't think. and the critic is only on Foxtel, which i don't have. bastardos. *weeps* xxx vik
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JasonPeavey
Poppler
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I think it all stems back to Season 1 when Fox's censors had suggestions for changing some things in the show, and Groening put his foot down and said he wanted to do the show his own way, just like he did for The Simpsons. That was the first nail on the coffin Fox made for the series.
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Demon-Knight
Crustacean
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This weekend, the NFL postgame show was listed in the TV guide at 7:00 pm This is so messed up... does ANYONE actually stay for an hour after a game to watch a freakin postgame show?!?!?!! And... they REALLY need to cancel some of their other shows before futurama. This sunday, along with the futurama rerun, they showed ANDY RICTHER (which I think is pretty damn stupid, they show the best if not ALL of the jokes on the 3-minute long commercial for the show... it's just like to get you to watch it, but while you're watching it, you've already seen the whole thing. Also, THIRY SECONDS TO FAME. This one has to go. I feel the same way about this as I do about American Idol - does ANYONE give a !@#$!#@$% about this? I mean, think about it. Watching other people trying to sing better than each other. What's the point? One person wins. Wow. A different one wins. Oh my god!! it affected something!! Oh no, wait, that was my old age turning my hair gray. Bottom line: They can't eliminate futurama! It's not fair!! Everything else is so much worse!! The... year? 2 years? When it was simpsons-futurama-xfiles in that order was the true 'golden age' of civilization itself, and it shall live on in my memory as "the best days of my life."
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DBCrader
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Always thought that was a great line-up myself... a cartoon comedy and a sci-fi show, and right in between, a cartoon sci-fi comedy...
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SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #33 on: 12-25-2002 17:55 »
« Last Edit on: 12-25-2002 17:55 »
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I think it's because FOX is one of the most right-wing networks out there (Hannity and Colmes, anyone?), and Futurama is damn left-wing. FOX is full of mormons, I tell you. Mormons and morons. Mormons explain the buisiness side, and morons explain "World's Scariest *insert anything here*" and American Idol.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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Originally posted by Gocad: Well, they are morons. And there is nothing you can expect from morons, except for actions that seem to make no sense at all. *points to the white house, then at Gocad's quote* Need I say more
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DBCrader
Crustacean
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot: I think it's because FOX is one of the most right-wing networks out there (Hannity and Colmes, anyone?), and Futurama is damn left-wing. FOX is full of mormons, I tell you. Mormons and morons. Mormons explain the buisiness side, and morons explain "World's Scariest *insert anything here*" and American Idol. Granted, FOX News leans towards the right (not bad, considering everyone else leans toward the left), but why mention HANNITY & COLMES??? This is a balanced show... Alan Colmes is a lefty... and I don't think any of this has anything to do with FUTURAMA... programming execs rarely use politics as a barometer... they aren't intelligent enough for that!!!
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SlaytanicMaggot
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel: Fox like every other network really doesn't know or care about how good or bad a show is. The bottom line is are people watching it. Futurama as great as it is has totally become a cult show. As we all know cult shows don't last. Fox still airs Cops for crying out loud. That dumbass show has been on since '89 or '90. The fact of the matter is people tune in. It doesn't matter what the show is about. The World's Greatest Animal Excretions could air for decades if people continue to watch it. Poor Futurama was given a prime spot after the Simpsons and before the X-Files back in the first season. The Malcolm in the middle showed up and, boot, out goes Futurama. After that Fox just left in limbo bouncing it around until they decided it would be Football Fodder. Look at all the cult shows that failed because only a fanatic core of viewers watched. The original Star Trek, and more recently, Twin Peaks and one of my personal faves Northern Exposure are shows that had a vocal but small following. The Networks don't want that. We can blame all the dumbass Football/Survivor/Cops fans for that. Because those shows will not die. Maybe that's the reason...Fox realizes it will make more money than, say, "24," because it will be around longer...This is slightly eerie of the original Star Trek, which got canceled after three seasons...Futurama's lasted longer, but season 3 was the first hiccup. Let's just hope that a Futurama convention in the year 2010 convinces FOX to let them do movies...then a Futurama: the year 4000 may come around... and a Bender spinoff, etc., etc...who knows? Don't kill me for saying this, but that might be the answer to why Fox hates Futurama so.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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DBCrader, it was the only FOX News show I could remember at the time.
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