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Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #200 on: 05-11-2021 01:31 »

Doesn't any PEELers miss Futurama? Doesn't anyone else see its storytelling potential?
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« Reply #201 on: 05-11-2021 06:49 »

Yes, and despite differences of opinion, I feel it had a pretty good run. And will live on in culture.

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« Reply #202 on: 05-19-2021 12:08 »

Doesn't any PEELers miss Futurama?

I don't.  I mean, not really.  Crazy Central and the Sci-Fi channel both show reruns all the time, so I can pretty much watch it whenever I want to.  I usually don't.

It's weird, because I used to really be into the show.  When it was still on Cartoon Network, I used to watch it almost every day.  I even joined an online message board about the show.

I still enjoy it when I do watch it.  It's just not something that I spend a lot of time thinking about anymore.

Doesn't anyone else see its storytelling potential?

Having watched some of the Crazy Central episodes, I think that it's safe to say that that potential has been wrung dry pretty thoroughly.  Honestly, I think that the writers were probably starting to run out of ideas by the fourth season of the original run
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« Reply #203 on: 05-20-2021 01:01 »

I once joined an online message board

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Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #204 on: 05-20-2021 02:37 »

Yes, and despite differences of opinion, I feel it had a pretty good run. And will live on in culture.
Futurama did have two good runs. While I can't really change your mind and don't want to argue, I do know Futurama has a few stories it can tell and it needs to wrap up it's overarching narrative.

I don't.  I mean, not really.  Crazy Central and the Sci-Fi channel both show reruns all the time, so I can pretty much watch it whenever I want to.  I usually don't.
Brah, do you even stream?

"Crazy Central"? Is that autocorrect or a misnomer? I don't like Comedy Central either now (Viacom is petty), but I wouldn't call them crazy

It's weird, because I used to really be into the show.  When it was still on Cartoon Network, I used to watch it almost every day.  I even joined an online message board about the show.
Really? Link please.

I Having watched some of the Crazy Central episodes, I think that it's safe to say that that potential has been wrung dry pretty thoroughly.  Honestly, I think that the writers were probably starting to run out of ideas by the fourth season of the original run
I feel that while a lot of the episodes in the second run were more padding than worth telling (episodes like "31st Century Fox" and "Saturday Morning Fun Pit", while fun, weren't necessary, creative, or insightful), Futurama, if it focused more on the greater themes, could tell a grand, complete story. I think Futurama would pivot well going from an episodic format to serialized storytelling akin to BoJack Horseman. The movies proved Futurama can tell a story for more than twenty-two minutes.

Do you think it is an issue with the writers, with the world of Futurama, the times, or something else?

I once joined an online message board

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How did it go? I heard those things are going the way of television, cinema, and the face book. They're for boomers that reminisce of the times they had to walk to school uphill both ways in a blizzard while sustaining their families on wartime rations.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #205 on: 05-20-2021 02:38 »

Shiii
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« Reply #206 on: 05-20-2021 03:43 »

Brah, do you even stream?

I probably stream more cartoons than you do.  None of the ones that I stream are Futurama reruns though.

"Crazy Central"? Is that autocorrect or a misnomer? I don't like Comedy Central either now (Viacom is petty), but I wouldn't call them crazy

I would and I do.  Autocorrect only wishes that it could be as clever as I am.

Do you think it is an issue with the writers, with the world of Futurama, the times, or something else?

I don't know.  If I had to guess, I'd say it was the writers, but that's just a guess.

I don't think that the world of Futurama is lacking in storytelling potential.  There was some interesting world building back in the first season, but they didn't really expand on it as much in the later seasons.  Instead, they either just reused existing elements, or created new ones that were used for one episode and then never seen again.
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« Reply #207 on: 05-20-2021 04:21 »

I probably stream more cartoons than you do.
Is that a challenge? Probably not but anyways I have watched BoJack Horseman, The Dragon Prince, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, Disenchantment, Hilda, Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts, Infinity Train, Close Enough, American Dad, King of the Hill, Bob's Burgers, and many more in their entirety.

None of the ones that I stream are Futurama reruns though.

I only started streaming Futurama again about a month ago. I'm almost done with the original run. Any time I watch it I don't just put it on the the background. I sit down and look for anything. I'm still taken back by how many jokes I have missed despite decades passing.

I would and I do.  Autocorrect only wishes that it could be as clever as I am.
What makes Comedy Central crazy? I think they're screwed- all of Viacom really. They're just now entering the streaming foray and all they bring is reboots and revivals. Comedy Central's only notable content they put out now is South Park and the Daily Show. Viacom sustains itself on reruns to a disgusting degree.

By the way, I love the humor on PEEL.

I don't know.  If I had to guess, I'd say it was the writers, but that's just a guess.

I don't think that the world of Futurama is lacking in storytelling potential.  There was some interesting world building back in the first season, but they didn't really expand on it as much in the later seasons.  Instead, they either just reused existing elements, or created new ones that were used for one episode and then never seen again.
I definitely agree. I think one of the strongest elements Futurama had going for it was its continuity. It's astonishing how an animated sitcom had such a reliance on past content when it was airing in the early 2000's, especially given how sporadic scheduling was for the show. That's probably a major contributor to how strong Futurama performs on streaming. You are correct to say that Futurama kind of ignored a lot of its continuity later in the second run. I can understand where the writers are coming from with narrative freedom, but I think Futurama was appreciated for how tight the narrative was. While I wouldn't want to stifle the creativity of the writers, I do think Futurama would excel the most in serialized storytelling.
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« Reply #208 on: 05-20-2021 04:36 »

I spend most of my time now talking to spirits I can see in the forms of paint texture on walls and ceilings, in between the leaves of trees, in the negative spaces of words written in books, on artwork people make when I randomly hand them artist utensils.  One time I think a man by the name of glass gave me Bender vision and he drew perfectly all of the characters of Futurama, in my vision.  At one point I had 4 Bender eyes, and on the pavement I saw a war-like 6eyes Bender Dragon.  Time to play a children's cartoon card game, I'll smell you snrubs later.  Big brother, big brother, is it time for my cameo?  Screw the rules, I have green hair!
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« Reply #209 on: 05-20-2021 04:39 »

I feel like this discussion would be profitable if we took it to another futurama message board and I created an account there titled Washbucket.  Washbucket, incidentally, is my most beloved character from My Little Futurama: the Future is Witchcraft.
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« Reply #210 on: 05-20-2021 05:59 »

Is that a challenge?

It wasn't meant as one, no.  I'm only streaming about eight different shows this season, which is down quite a bit from the sixteen or so that I watched last season.  I think that I average around a dozen shows each season.  There are a couple of other new shows this season that sound interesting that I still haven't checked out yet because I just haven't found the time.

What makes Comedy Central crazy?

Who knows?  It could be environmental factors.  It could be a genetic predisposition to insanity.  It could be some combination of both.  I'm not sure if anyone can say for certain what the cause is.

While I wouldn't want to stifle the creativity of the writers, I do think Futurama would excel the most in serialized storytelling.

I don't know about that.  That sort of thing works well for dramas or action-adventure shows, but Futurama is, at its heart, a sitcom, and those tend to be more episodic.  While it's certainly possible to create a comedy with more of a continuous storyline, that's not how Futurama was created.  I don't think that trying to turn Futurama into something that it's not would be doing it any favors.
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« Reply #211 on: 05-20-2021 14:22 »


How did it go? I heard those things are going the way of television, cinema, and the face book. They're for boomers that reminisce of the times they had to walk to school uphill both ways in a blizzard while sustaining their families on wartime rations.


How did it go? With no exaggeration, it's profoundly transformed my life. And I'd like to think that has made me a better person. In the years since I joined I've made friends, tight friends, and best friends through this board, and have had the good fortune to meet over 30 of them in person.

Regarding reruns, there are blocks of three to four episodes on several nights each week, and I occasionally catch one of them or part of one, including the finale the other night.

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« Reply #212 on: 05-20-2021 15:47 »

Which finale though?  We've had like three, yeah?
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« Reply #213 on: 05-20-2021 22:18 »

Meanwhile.

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« Reply #214 on: 05-21-2021 05:17 »

I recently got my husband to sit down and watch all of the show. I couldn't believe he had been alive for over 30 years and not seen it from start to finish a thousand and one times. He said he had only watched episodes occasionally.

I didn't know who he was anymore.
David A

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« Reply #215 on: 05-21-2021 13:13 »

What did he think of it?  Don't keep us in suspense.

Two posters using the same avatar in the same thread?  Yeah, I'm sure that won't get confusing or annoying.
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« Reply #216 on: 05-21-2021 15:24 »

I think the episode with the forwards only time machine is pretty good.  Time Keeps on Slippin' I think it was called.  Now let's do globetrotter calculus!

Calculus Planet, he's our hero!  Gonna take derivatives down to zero!
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