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The Cryonic Woman had a pretty good first act, at least. I'd still say A Leela of Her Own was the worst episode of the Fox run. It ruined the brilliant joke of Blernsball, on top of having a crappy storyline in general and being completely devoid of laughs.
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I honestly don't think the original run has any episodes that are downright bad. At worse, it's got a few mediocre ones.
I remember shitting on A Leela of Her Own frequently back when all we had were the Fox episodes, but I've softened on it since. I still consider it well below average for Futurama standards, but yeah, I'd take it over Attack of the Killer Ap or The Futurama Holiday Spectacular any day.
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« Reply #128 on: 03-07-2015 22:57 »
« Last Edit on: 03-07-2015 23:22 by totalnerduk »
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It is my personal opinion that The Cryonic Woman, while not a top-tier episode of the original run, is still better than 90% of the post-cancellation run and that you are crazy. I might be crazy, but at least I'm pretty. I can agree that it's better than some of the revived series. Perhaps 60%. But there were some real gems in there. TLPJF, for example. I have to give credit where credit is due, when they got it right they still got it really fucking right. AOTKA spawned a horrendously overused image macro
Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the line it was spawned from was legitimately funny in the episode. The same goes for the macro spawned from A Clockwork Origin.
They (the image macros) were both funny the first time I saw them used. That was the one time for either of them. Now they're part of the endless annoying background noise of the internet. The Honking is fucking fantastic.
Meh. The Honking has some fantastic lines and some fantastic visual sequences, but overall I don't think it's a brilliant episode. It's not far above the main body of the revived run for me. Looking back at some of my posts from the time that 6A was airing, I actually had good things to say about the revived run overall at that point - the decline was pretty gradual really, and I think that to say around 40% of the new episodes were roughly on par with the bulk of the original material is pretty accurate.
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I know this is Simpsons news but I feel a lot of people here are Simpsons fans and I think it belongs here
Rather than in the Simpsons thread, or the thread about dead famous people? This is why we can't have nice things.
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JoshTheater
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Well if there was no Simpsons there maybe no futurama think about it
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TheMadCapper
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I try to list one piece of need related to Matt Groening I never to start a war in the fourms I'm a huge futurama fan and Matt Groening fan, as a fan of his work the death of one of con creators really struck me hard
Without getting into too much detail, I made a mistake posting the news which I DO apologize for, I'm autistic and not very good when it cones to defending myself, I would never mean to offend people on a forum of a show that saved me from depression in a hard time of my life, and a show that I have dedicated so many countless hours too, and that some of my absolute best friends came from Again I'm sorry for offending anyone I'm just asking if we can put it behind us and move on
It's okay. You posted some news that is of interest to the Futurama community, which is not exactly a criminal offense. And now you know that there are threads devoted to such news. Unfortunately, some folks were not very polite in the way they informed you of that.
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« Reply #144 on: 03-12-2015 15:35 »
« Last Edit on: 03-12-2015 15:36 by totalnerduk »
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Unfortunately, some folks were not very polite in the way they informed you of that.
This is why we can't have nice things? I get the feeling that this might have been my fault. Just possibly. A little. Maybe. I'm not going to apologise though, since it's easier just to pretend I think it's Josh's fault instead, and he's unlikely to stick up for himself now that he's had to back down once already. * totalnerduk glares at Josh and mutters "jackass" to himself. Although at precisely whom the word is directed will forever remain unclear. You know, every time I click this thread I'm expecting an announcement for another 8 seasons, 3 movies and an amusement park. Stop disappointing me.
Actually, there was talk of more Futurama movies being a possibility not too long ago. I dunno if they were thinking direct-to-DVD again or a theatrical release, but it seems like every time a Futurama cast member or Matt/David say something that relates to it, there's usually something hinting at their desire to do more with the franchise and bow out in grand style. Your hopes for an amusement park are probably unrealistic. I'd settle for Futurama Lego, personally.
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Well, given that Futurama's current run has been as follows:
* 5 seasons that are actually 4 seasons. * 4 movies that are actually 1 season. * 4 seasons that are actually 2 seasons.
I think the next logical step is 2 seasons that are actually 50 toddlers wearing a giant trenchcoat.
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TheMadCapper
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Looks like Reddit is fully convinced that Futurama is headed for revival on Netflix because of the voice actors mentioning interest in working on the show again, should the chance arise.
Now we wait until someone posts a link to whoever said something about a potential movie.
Assuming they can obtain the rights (and the writers), does Netflix have the capabilities/budget to do the kind of animation Futurama requires? Netflix would offer an interesting new venue for the show, especially with how it's grown over the years. I could see the show reaching a lot of viewers with Netflix, especially since a show like Futurama is likely to appeal to a relatively tech-savvy viewership.
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No, that makes sense. I think the same goes for most episodic comedies - the majority of viewers, despite enjoying the series, would just be catching an episode here and there, and wouldn't be following it to the same extent as us. Hell, I love Futurama, and even then, it was rarely ever "must-see viewing" for me. A lot of animated comedies these days have a much higher emphasis on serialisation than what we're used to, thanks to the precedent set by The Simpsons (ie. Archer, BoJack Horseman, the latest season of South Park), but Futurama largely abandoned its running mythology upon its return, with a handful of exceptions. And, while the show is damn fun to marathon, it still lacks the hooks that would generally draw most people back in for long periods of binge watching - something that's only become more popular with the increased popularity of online streaming services, such as the aforementioned Netflix.
Long story short, it's just not where the medium is heading these days, and that's not exactly helping Futurama's chances at all. Even most people here - on a forum FULL of hardcore fans - have responded to the discussion of a potential revival with apathy and ambivalence.
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Monster_Robot_Maniac
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Long story short, it's just not where the medium is heading these days, and that's not exactly helping Futurama's chances at all. Even most people here - on a forum FULL of hardcore fans - have responded to the discussion of a potential revival with apathy and ambivalence.
To be fair, one-off comedies do still have their fair place in popularity; but they're definitely dying off. Less and less shows seem to have the 'here's a funny thing, possibly based off of other funny things' format, in trade for the 'here's a story, with funny things' format that early seasons of Futurama, along with some scattered episodes afterwards, cemented. The second run, in general, had far more of the first format than the original run did (though both did fall into this category in some way), which probably wasn't entirely for the best. On the topic of the fan's general disregard or dislike of a revival, I think it all comes down to whether or not new Futurama would be able to step up their game; the seasons we got on CC were ridiculously hit-and-miss, sometimes with one of the all-time best episodes preceding one of the all-time worst. A fresh take on things, new writers, new inspiration, something to that effect, would really help.
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« Reply #157 on: 03-17-2015 07:37 »
« Last Edit on: 03-17-2015 16:14 »
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I think what would help the most would be getting the writers, et al to commit to the show in a larger capacity than they were able to in the second run. This would only be possible with a larger budget, a year-to-year production schedule, and a high probability of being renewed for additional seasons.
After the first series ended, they all moved on to other jobs and some of them started families. With the new series, the budget was reduced, so some staff writers from the first run were only hired as contract writers on the second run. (This also means that the core writing staff that met regularly in the writers' room was smaller.) Furthermore, the every-other-year production schedule prevented many from committing fully to the show since it wasn't full-time, year-round work; it was a temporary job with no guarantee of continuing, so they had to commit to other things in order to make a salary.
A larger budget would have helped reduce the quantity and suckiness of the poor episodes in the second run by easing the effects of the aforementioned phenomena, but, as others said, Futurama doesn't pull in enough viewers to justify that.
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I feel like another straight-to-video movie would be the most likely way for the show to return, but even that seems unlikely. I feel that the fact that there's already four Futurama straight-to-video movies would somewhat water down the impact of them releasing a new one - not to mention further confusion with people not realising that the new movie is a new movie.
I would love for the show to get the theatrical feature film treatment it so deserves but it's not going to happen and I'm not really interested in bringing it back. As people have said the last few seasons suffered from reduced budget, writing staff, etc and, further to that, I feel like the story has been told now. One of the reasons I (and, I imagine many others) were so distraught at the show's cancellation the first time around was that there was so much left to tell. Fry and Leela were still pretty firmly in "will they? won't they?" territory among other things. This time, though, the show feels done. Fry and Leela have their perfect ending and it feels like every bit of mythology originally planned from the start of the series has now been explored. The last season felt largely like the writers were trying to come up with filler concepts to extend the show's life and now that there's 140 episodes in the bag, I don't feel like we need any of that. "Meanwhile" really is the perfect finale, so I only want the show back if it's for a one-off celebration in the format of a "movie" - something that would only serve to compliment the finale rather than replace it with a new one - kind of like "Simpsorama", except better.
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I would love for the show to get the theatrical feature film treatment it so deserves but it's not going to happen and I'm not really interested in bringing it back.
As far as I can see, it's the one option MG/DXC haven't actually explored, and it's something that they've expressed enthusiasm for the idea of. Therefore... it's a possibility. Not a huge possibility, but slim hope is better than none. Even if said hope is hair-thin right now.
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