The 14 Losers

[Reply #40 on:]

When you collect too little data, you end up with a situation where "A Taste of Freedom" is regarded as the worst episode.  That amuses me.

The "worst" is now "Where the Buggalo Roam", I think. Enjoy.

I am considering a feature to allow people to comment on reviews, but I fear that might be too much of what PEEL is supposed to do; but I also think that the lack of interest might do to the lack of ability to respond to a review.  Then again, people review on gotfuturama.com, so who knows?

I think that sheer laziness is what's stopping people using this. I know I'd use it more if I weren't so damn lazy.

[Reply #41 on:]

Just updating this thread to say that I've just looked at the ratings on gotfuturama.com again, and... "Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences" is out of the 'losers list' as it now has 70%. However, "The Butterjunk Effect" takes it's place with 65%

[Reply #42 on:]

Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences-This episode came across as a bit boring to me. It just wasn't that interesting or funny.

The Route Of All Evil-I can't say I hated this one. The paper plot was a bit dull, but I did enjoy "pregnant" Bender a lot.

All The President’s Heads-Now, I actually enjoy this. I really liked the history thing and getting to see everyone as a Brit. Some great voice acting for that one.

That Darn Katz!-Ugh, I didn't like this one. I found it really boring...and just stupid. It was nice to see some character development for Amy, but otherwise no.
 
I Dated A Robot-Some funny moments, but kinda boring. Zoidberg doing the "oh no you didn't" thing kinda made it up for me.

Mother’s Day-I really like this ep! The sex scene is horrifying, but hilarious.

A Pharaoh To Remember -The funeral was the best part, but otherwise, it wasn't that great.

That’s Lobstertainment-Kind of a meh episode for me.

Attack Of The Killer App-The eyephone was pretty cool and all, but the goat vomit/diarrhea was just disgusting and really bad for a person with emetophobia.

The Cryonic Woman-Booring. Hated this one. Michelle's a bitch.

In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela-I actually like this episode. I hate the ending, and all. But it's not horrible.

A Leela Of Her Own-Hate this one. Just....not entertaining.

Futurama Holiday Spectacular-OH GOD NO. JUST NO. HATE this episode, feels like I'm watching Family Guy!

Yo Leela Leela-Not horrible, but not spectacular. Leela was too much of a bitch in this one.

So for agreement:

Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences (69%) YES
The Route Of All Evil (69%) NO
All The President’s Heads (69%) NO
That Darn Katz! (69%) YES
I Dated A Robot (67%) NO
Mother’s Day (67%) NO
A Pharaoh To Remember (66%) NO
That’s Lobstertainment (61%) YES
Attack Of The Killer App (60%) YES
The Cryonic Woman (57%) YES
In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela (54%) NO
A Leela Of Her Own (50%) YES
Futurama Holiday Spectacular (47%) YES
Yo Leela Leela (43%) YES

My bottom 15:

1. Brannigan Begin Again
2. A Bicyclops Built for Two
3. A Taste of Freedom
4. Where No Fan Has Gone Before
5. That's Lobstertainment!
6. Mobius Dick
7. Fry am the Egg Man
8. The Silence of the Clamps
9. Bender's Game (I hope this counts, cause I hate this one)
10. The Cryonic Woman
11. Where the Buggalo Roam
12. That Darn Katz!
13. A Leela of her Own
14. Attack of the Killer App
15. Futurama Holiday "Spectacular"

[Reply #43 on:]

Brannigan Begin Again?  Interesting...

[Reply #44 on:]

Blasphemy!

My bottom 15 would be something along the lines of:

1) Neutopia
2) The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
3) Yo Leela Leela
4) A Leela of Her Own
5) Obsoletely Fabulous
6) In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
7) The Route of All Evil
8) Attack of the Killer App
9) Bender's Game
10) Where the Buggalo Roam
11) When Aliens Attack
12) That's Lobstertainment!
13) Proposition Infinity
14) All the Presidents' Heads
15) The Butterjunk Effect

Oh dear. 7 of those are from Season 6.   I guess all the ones I didn't list are pretty good, so 7/26 isn't too bad.

[Reply #45 on:]

Blasphemy!
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5) Obsoletely Fabulous
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Blasphemy indeed! I actually really liked Obsoletely Fabulous. I feel like I'm in the minority here, though.

[Reply #46 on:]

Heh, if guys knew what my bottom 15 list was, there'd be so many cries of blasphemy I'd never be allowed on this site again.

[Reply #47 on:]

I personally love both That's Lobstertainment! And A Leela of Her Own. I can see why the average Futurama fan might be put off by them but I think they have a lot to offer. I minored in theatre in college and have spent a lot of time dealing with theatre stuff so I was deeply amused by the philosophies guiding Harold Zoid's directing strategies. (Liked the recent Theif of Baghead, too.)  I aslo enjoy A Leela of Her Own; it has a sort of Naked Gun sort of humor to it. Actually, come to think of it, a Leslie Neilson movie with the same basic plot minus the gender issues would probably be a blockbuster.

[Reply #48 on:]

I never really understood all the hatred for AotKA, AtPH, In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela (don't know how to abbreviate that), and YLL. I loved the British stereotypes in AtPH (Fry standing at the fireplace like a gentleman out of "Pride and Prejudice" just tickled me to pieces). I was amused and impressed by Katey Sagal's voice acting in YLL and thought she really had a chance to stretch her range--something that I think is rarely afforded to her. The others were just fun and entertaining. And maybe I forgave AotKA's gross and crude humor as a desperate girlfriend would for her estranged and immature boyfriend--I was just so happy to have new Futurama back on the air.

So all the following, I wouldn't put in my worst episodes ever list:

The Route Of All Evil
All The President’s Heads
I Dated A Robot
Mother’s Day
Attack Of The Killer App
In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
A Leela Of Her Own
Yo Leela Leela

I guess the others that I left out can suck it.

[Reply #49 on:]

I actually really liked Obsoletely Fabulous. I feel like I'm in the minority here, though.

I don't know if this means you're any less in the minority (since we are allegedly the same entity), but I really enjoy "Obsoletely Fabulous," too. It's by no means a favorite of mine, but it's still one of the best Bender-centric episodes of the series, I think. He comes across as very sympathetic and lovable, what with his inferiority complex and desire for the rest of the PE crew to appreciate him in all his outdated glory.

I think it's a forgotten episode more than it is an out-and-out hated one, though. It is surrounded by a number of more noticeably brilliant episodes, seeing as how it comes from the incontestably awesome season four; I think it's just overshadowed by episodes like "The Sting" and "The Farnsworth Parabox" and whatnot.

I aslo enjoy A Leela of Her Own; it has a sort of Naked Gun sort of humor to it. Actually, come to think of it, a Leslie Neilson movie with the same basic plot minus the gender issues would probably be a blockbuster.

Well, to be fair, if you remove the boring gender issues from any movie, you're sure to increase the likelihood that it'll be a blockbuster. Audiences don't want to think!

Also: I really like "A Leela of Her Own," as I'm sure I've already obnoxiously and self-righteously stated elsewhere in this thread, and in others.

Heh, if guys knew what my bottom 15 list was, there'd be so many cries of blasphemy I'd never be allowed on this site again.

You've intrigued me, sir. Just allow me to prepare the ol' torch and pitchfork before you proceed with this list...

Seriously, though, I'm genuinely curious to know which (presumably) widely beloved episodes are on your Worst Episodes Ever list. I understand the fear of being flamed by rabid Futurama fans, of course, but I won't judge you much if you choose to share your list.

[Reply #50 on:]

Ok, after a lot of thought (and beer) here's my bottom 15 episode list.

15) The Cyber House Rules
14) The Series Has Landed
13) The Butterjunk Effect
12) The Devils Hands Are Idle Playthings
11) Bend-Her
10) My Three Suns
9) Bendless Love
8) Mars University
7) Yo Leela Leela
6) All the Presidents' Heads
5) The Cryonic Woman
4) Overclockwise
3) Mobius Dick
2) Bender Should Not Be Allowed On TV
1) Futurama Holiday Spectacular

[Reply #51 on:]

Putting "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" in a bottom 15 list should be a crime.

TFHS is at the bottom though, so at least that balances things out. 

[Reply #52 on:]

Blasphemy!

But seriously, there's some brilliant classics in there >< "15) The Cyber House Rules"?

[Reply #53 on:]

Blasphemy indeed! I actually really liked Obsoletely Fabulous. I feel like I'm in the minority here, though.

Well, I suppose reality is what you make of it.

[Reply #54 on:]

3) Mobius Dick

NO. Just no.

[Reply #55 on:]

That's your objection to his list?

[Reply #56 on:]

Eight of the episodes on that list have no place on it. Then again, ask anybody to make a list of their top or bottom episodes and there'll be one on there that's an incredibly subjective choice.

People are different. Of course, in this case I think it can all be explained by noting two things. One, Mr.Snrub is a teenager. He has yet to gain a refined sense of his own tastes anyway. Two, Mr.Snrub enjoyed Near Death Wish so much that he gave it a perfect score.

I expect that his top ten list will be equally mystifying to a lot of people, and to fans of the original Futurama run in particular.

[Reply #57 on:]

You're so right, tnuk. If only I wasn't cursed with this disability of being born after you. How long I've been watching futurama is completely irrelevant, because you were a more powerful sperm than I. I don't even understand what they say in futurama most of the time, but I like the purty colours and silly voices, so itz toates like my fave show evar lolz.

For the record, here's my top 10 list. Take aim.

10) Fry and the Slurm Factory
9) Near-Death Wish
8) The Prisoner of Benda
7) The Day the Earth Stood Stupid
6) The Sting
5) Godfellas
4) The Luck of the Fryrish
3) Insane in the Mainframe
2) Less Than Hero
1) Reincarnation

[Reply #58 on:]

You're so right, tnuk. If only I wasn't cursed with this disability of being born after you. How long I've been watching futurama is completely irrelevant, because you were a more powerful sperm than I.

Congratulations on only picking up on half of what I said there, thus managing to either miss or mis-interpret the point.

I was right about your top episodes.

Four of those are top-ten material for me. Only two wouldn't belong in the top thirty. But what's truly mystifying is the episodes that are not there, as far as I'm concerned.

[Reply #59 on:]

Shame. I was ready for red dancing text. Ah well, the dreaded eye-roll emoticon will do nicely.

I chose to respond to the parts I wanted to respond to. That doesn't mean I didn't get it. I agreed with the first and third paragraph of your initial post, although I have to say that I think we're all fans of the original run, like most of us are fans of the current run. I'm not gonna waggle my finger like some sassy black woman and cry 'You don't know me!' but you can't diagnose why I like and dislike certain episodes based on my background. I can't even do that with myself.

[Reply #60 on:]

 

Shame. I was ready for red dancing text. Ah well, the dreaded eye-roll emoticon will do nicely.

Happy now?

I chose to respond to the parts I wanted to respond to. That doesn't mean I didn't get it.

So what is it exactly that you think I meant, and what was the net gain to you in deliberately saying something irrelevant?

[Reply #61 on:]

I know you weren't actually attacking my choices, or at least the right to make those choices. What I didn't appreciate was your patronizing justification of my decision by saying I'm not old enough to be a good judge of what I believe is good TV.

Although I'll be honest, I didn't understand what you meant about how fans of the original run in-particular would find my list strange, since 6 of the 15 episodes on my worst list are from the new run, and only 3 of the 10 on the best list. Unless it's that crap about people not knowing what futurama's supposed to be about.

If I'm humiliatingly and and irredeemably wrong here, please, feel free to enlighten me.

[Reply #62 on:]

I know you weren't actually attacking my choices, or at least the right to make those choices. What I didn't appreciate was your patronizing justification of my decision by saying I'm not old enough to be a good judge of what I believe is good TV.

What I was saying was that you're not done becoming you yet. At some point, your tastes, opinions, and personal preferences will congeal and solidify. Right now, they're still liquid. You don't know what you want out of life yet, nevermind what you want from television programming. You can feel free to disagree, but if so then I'd like you to bookmark this conversation and come back to it in five years. If you don't see what I mean then, you might have a point. For now, just accept that there's a possibility somebody who is slightly older than you might have a couple of insights into the way that a person grows up and matures over time that you don't. But you will when you get there. Older, that is. Assuming you're not run over by a bus in the interim, in which case please accept my condolences for the loss of your (hypothetical) future.

Although I'll be honest, I didn't understand what you meant about how fans of the original run in-particular would find my list strange, since 6 of the 15 episodes on my worst list are from the new run, and only 3 of the 10 on the best list. Unless it's that crap about people not knowing what futurama's supposed to be about.

Nah, none of that. What I meant was that a lot of the best and worst episodes are from the original run of Futurama. They're the benchmarks by which we tend to set our best and our worst episodes in the new run, since we saw them first. A good number of years ago, in many cases.

So it's a little odd that you have some fairly universally-acknowledged greats from the OR on your bottom list and not many of the same on your top list. I mean, where is TKOS or RTEW if not the top ten? What happened to LLLIS or TWOF? Is NDW really better than all of those?

But, as I said above, it's all subjective. It might depend greatly on the point at which you were introduced to the series, and almost certainly depends on the demographic to which you belong (which is why your age is a factor). I would not be surprised if, in five years time, your top ten and bottom fifteen are entirely different lists. Whether or not any more episodes air.

[Reply #63 on:]

At some point, your tastes, opinions, and personal preferences will congeal and solidify. Right now, they're still liquid.

Does that really depend on age though? While you're right that people have to open their eyes and learn it all before they can fully appreciate, or reject, things, the 80 year old man in the old folks home may still be set in his ways and not have learned a thing, while the 11 year old at the orphanage could be more life-trained than any adult. Opinions and tastes can change, no matter what age you are. You say my tastes will eventually change, and maybe you're right. But I know what I like now.

So it's a little odd that you have some fairly universally-acknowledged greats from the OR on your bottom list and not many of the same on your top list. I mean, where is TKOS or RTEW if not the top ten? What happened to LLLIS or TWOF? Is NDW really better than all of those?

But, as I said above, it's all subjective. It might depend greatly on the point at which you were introduced to the series, and almost certainly depends on the demographic to which you belong (which is why your age is a factor). I would not be surprised if, in five years time, your top ten and bottom fifteen are entirely different lists. Whether or not any more episodes air.

Right now, yes, I do believe NDW is better than all those episodes. Is that subject to change? Of course. I started watching futurama just a few months before it was cancelled (not in chronological order, mind you.) I was immediately hooked and bought the first 3 seasons on DVD, and the forth season when it came out the next year. I watched the ever loving crap out of each and every episode, and eventually some of them started to become a drag, even the ones that I really liked initially. I'll hold my hands up that that is entirely my fault, but the ones that truly stood the test of time are the ones on my top 10 list. It's entirely likely that in a few years, when I've watched NDW a dozen times, that episode would've gotten boring to me as well. But that doesn't mean my opinion right now is invalid.

[Reply #64 on:]

My worst 15 list:

15) That Darn Katz!
14) I Dated a Robot
13) In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
12) The Butterjunk Effect
11) A Pharaoh to Remember
10) Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television
9) Bendin' in the Wind
8) A Taste of Freedom
7) Future Stock
6) Less Than Hero
5) Attack of the Killer App
4) The Cryonic Woman
3) That's Lobstertainment!
2) Yo Leela Leela
1) The Futurama Holiday Spectacular