Bring on Season 7! - General Futurama Discussion

[Reply #440 on:]

I honestly think they used the Kif and Amy part to fill up the list. Honestly, they only had 9, and not 10.

ToTPD

[Reply #441 on:]

I thought 31st Century Fox was about Calculon...

Was Blue Munda about Blue Moon, or something else?  Also, it's quite funny that Amy is still the only PE crewmember who hasn't had her name used in an episode.

[Reply #442 on:]

Kif and Amy becoming parents is a terrible choice... 

And I think Jurassic Bark should've been number one.

[Reply #443 on:]

I think the reveal of Lars' true identity deserved a shout-out, too.

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I think the reveal of Lars' true identity deserved a shout-out, too.

Yah, I love the moment where Lars dies and Leela sees the tattoo on his butt, is shocked, and then looks at Fry.

[Reply #445 on:]

latest syndication ratings... for week ending December 25, 2011

2.8 rating...  4.1 million viewers 

ranked 21 out of hundreds i assume

[Reply #446 on:]

Can anyone tell me how many millions of viewers per week watched Futurama.

I think the west coast had a higher penetration.

If not...big deal..

[Reply #447 on:]

Can anyone tell me how many millions of viewers per week watched Futurama during its network run on Fox.

I think the west coast had a higher penetration.

If not...big deal..

[Reply #448 on:]

I honestly think they used the Kif and Amy part to fill up the list. Honestly, they only had 9, and not 10.

I think that list is kind of lousy (and am bothered by the writer's inability to spell "Yancy"), but I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see "Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch" mentioned. I think that episode is really underrated, and the ending is strangely touching.

But yeah, how could they have neglected to mention episodes like "The Late Philip J. Fry" and BBS? Maybe this show just has more heartstring-tugging moments than we all thought. I mean, I agree that all the moments on that list are sweet or sad or otherwise emotional--it's just that some of them would not be among my top picks.

[Reply #449 on:]

Was Blue Munda about Blue Moon, or something else?

Blue Monday, the song by New Order.

[Reply #450 on:]

Can anyone tell me how many millions of viewers per week watched Futurama during its network run on Fox.

I think the west coast had a higher penetration.

If not...big deal..

on comedy central the show avg's around 2 million viewers for new eps... though it dropped a bit below that this last run of 13 over the summer...  that's over the initial run not the dvr playback or reruns during the first week

[Reply #451 on:]

Never heard of that song...

I'll go listen to it now.

I agree Gorky, I think it is a completely underrated episode.  I wouldn't say it's one of the most dramatic (though it is) but it's easily one of the most touching.  

Speaking of Amy, I still really would like an episode that shows her pudgy, pimply and bespectacled childhood on Mars with her borderline abusive parents.

[Reply #452 on:]

Never heard of that song...

What...



I'm younger than you and I've known it for years!

Also, check out the cover by Orgy...

[Reply #453 on:]

* futurefreak attempts to steer this back on track

So Gorky was talking about Kif Get Knocked Up a Notch as an underrated episode..I thought it was O-K...not necessarily great or anything. It created some weird plotpoints with Kif having Leela's young. Let's see if the show is on 20 years from then, we're like about halfway there (since that was the amount of time needed before they actually become raisable, right?)

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That reminds me: Amy and Zoidberg are the only main characters without offspring. 

[Reply #455 on:]

Fry has offspring?

[Reply #456 on:]

His Dad, and so forth. If you remember him getting lucky in "Roswell That Ends Well".

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Oh yeah, of course. Duh.

Must go and burn myself for that.

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That reminds me: Amy and Zoidberg are the only main characters without offspring. 

Technically only Amy. Zoidberg's siblings "budded off" from him. Biologically speaking they are both siblings and offspring.

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Either way, that makes it all right to hit them.

Speaking of Amy, I still really would like an episode that shows her pudgy, pimply and bespectacled childhood on Mars with her borderline abusive parents.

That's actually a neat idea. She's the only main character whose past hasn't been explored extensively (in flashback form, at least; you get a decent idea of what her childhood was like in "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"), and I could totally see a more dramatic Amy (or even Kif/Amy) story framed by all these tragicomic vignettes from her past.

Also, it would give us an excuse to see Leo and Inez again. God, do I love them.

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Second.

Amy really needs some better plots.

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That reminds me: Amy and Zoidberg are the only main characters without offspring. 

???

Um, that's some of her DNA swimming around at the end of Kif Get Knocked Up a Notch ... You know, when the tadpoles (or whatever) run into each other?

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Those were Leela's...the whole plot of the episode...??

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That's why Amy was excited to not be a parent, and also why there was a one-eyed tadpole.

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I think growing up with Leo and Inez has probably turned her into a neurotic ticking timebomb.   Or they are partially responsible for her unhealthy relationship with food. 

Speaking of which, I really want a sucking pig sundae right now.  And a glass of liquidised candycorn.

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Those were Leela's...the whole plot of the episode...??

Leela and Amy both have offspring with Kif.

(Pay attention, there will be a quiz later on.)

[Reply #466 on:]

Those were Leela's...the whole plot of the episode...??

Leela and Amy both have offspring with Kif.

(Pay attention, there will be a quiz later on.)

Nowhere in the episode does it say that.

[Reply #467 on:]

i still hate that gif. it does it's job well.

[Reply #468 on:]

Leela and Amy both have offspring with Kif.

"Emotionally" Amy is the moth...fath... other parent. But technically and genetically, Leela knocked Kif up. They're her offspring.

[Reply #469 on:]

I think we were all talking biologically to begin with. Saying Amy is the parent because of emotions is like saying the husband of an unfaithful wife who had a one night stand with an old boyfriend from Houston who was just in town for the music festival is the parent. She may have been thinking of the husband during it but that does not make any subsequent kid of that affair his offspring.

I don't know if that's what Fnord was getting at, but yeah.

[Reply #470 on:]

Well, I assume it was with regard to Kif's explanation about Amy's role in causing his 'receptiveness'. Weird alien biology.
But yeah, none of Amy's genetics in the mix.

Also,

the husband of an unfaithful wife who had a one night stand with an old boyfriend from Houston who was just in town for the music festival

...Speaking from experience?

[Reply #471 on:]

Futurefreak: biologically yes, emotionally no.    Kif's culture considers the children Amy's, and Amy herself has accepted them as her own now.  She defends them with a fury, while yelling: "Get away from my babies!"

I can see her doing the "Get away from them you BITCH!" in twenty years.  Hopefully she'll have got better at piloting that machine by then. 

[Reply #472 on:]

I can see her doing the "Get away from them you BITCH!" in twenty years.  Hopefully she'll have got better at piloting that machine by then. 

Piloting what machine? Her partyboard?

Amy's probably never going to reproduce. Leo and Inez are going to be very unhappy when they realize this, and will probably never accept that fact.

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Those were Leela's...the whole plot of the episode...??

Leela and Amy both have offspring with Kif.

(Pay attention, there will be a quiz later on.)

Nowhere in the episode does it say that.

Technically you are correct, but it does indicate in the episode that there is some of Amy's DNA in the tadpoles. At the end of the episode (after the dialog, so you might have shut off the episode at that point), Kif's offspring are swimming around. One has a single eye (that's Leela's DNA), and two others bump into each other (that's Amy's DNA ... She's a klutz ... get it?).

[Reply #474 on:]

...I think you might be reading too much into that. The genetic material came from Leela. The Professy's machine done said so.

[Reply #475 on:]

I think the bumping was a mere coincidence. If they intended for Amy to be part-mother then that would have been specified in the episode.

[Reply #476 on:]

Those were Leela's...the whole plot of the episode...??

Leela and Amy both have offspring with Kif.

(Pay attention, there will be a quiz later on.)

Nowhere in the episode does it say that.

Technically you are correct, but it does indicate in the episode that there is some of Amy's DNA in the tadpoles. At the end of the episode (after the dialog, so you might have shut off the episode at that point), Kif's offspring are swimming around. One has a single eye (that's Leela's DNA), and two others bump into each other (that's Amy's DNA ... She's a klutz ... get it?).

They're tadpoles. Not klutzes. Tadpoles.

As coldangel says, the Professor's machine ejected Amy, indicating that her genetic material did not form part of Kif's babies' makeup. Leela and Kif are the biological parents. To date, Amy does not have offspring. Even if you could argue that she has children, she does not have offspring.

[Reply #477 on:]

I can see her doing the "Get away from them you BITCH!" in twenty years.  Hopefully she'll have got better at piloting that machine by then.  

Piloting what machine? Her partyboard?

The machine Ellen Ripley used to save Newt.  Amy was using it in one episode, but proceeded to fall over and crash in it.  Luckily she wasn't battling the Alien Queen, or she would have probably have ended up getting her entrails eaten.  

I wouldn't think so, Amy's parents seem to have accepted the babies as their grandchildren.  "We not care how squishy alien get pregnant.  Call me grandma!  Call me grandma like crazy!"

Besides I wouldn't be surprised if Kif ended up becoming "receptive" again, and this time some of Amy's DNA ended up being absorbed.   They probably can't breed in the conventional sense, but they seem to be having regular humanoid snoo snoo now. 

[Reply #478 on:]

You're WRONG! about the tadpoles. Here, have a seizure.

In Fnord's defense, that's a perfectly valid reading of the tadpole-bumping incident. I don't think the writers meant to imply that the tadpoles had inherited Amy's klutziness (an impossibility, since none of her genetic material is present in the little buggers), but I could see how a person might interpret that moment in such a way. If the writers had wanted to show us that Amy had made a genetic contribution to the...swarm...of children, though, I think they would have gone about it in a much less subtle way.

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Besides, the explanation of how Kif's race becomes pregnant doesn't match up with what happened in the episode:

Zapp: Look, I'm sure we're all a little unclear on how anyone gets pregnant. So, Kif, pray explain. And don't spare the dirty words where appropriate.

Kif: Well, it's quite simple really. When one of my species experiences deep feelings of love we enter a so-called "receptive state".

Zapp: You disgust me! Go on.

Kif: At that point, our skin becomes a semi-permeable membrane, which allows the passage of genetic material. I held Amy's hand and voilà.

Kif didn't share any "deep feelings of love" with Leela. His receptive state was evidently caused by the panic of decompression; otherwise, when would Leela have "impregnated" Kif?

Amy touched Kif around the same time:



The whole "Amy is not a mother" argument depends on Farnsworth's machine being accurate. Or, perhaps it was not designed to allow for more than one other parent (although this would call its universality into question), or Leela got more DNA into Kif than Amy did. After all, it had to choose between Amy and Leela at the end.