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DannyJC13
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Also sounds like they're running out of episode titles.
Seriously? When we've had things like "Mars University", "Fry and the Slurm Factory", "The Lesser of Two Evils", "The Route of All Evil", "The Sting", etc...
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dommyinla
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that was metal in a microwave... i imagine he has a job of blowing up some dangerous package that the professor needs destroyed... uses too much explosives stupidly... the box says just use an ounce and he uses the whole box... causing a massive explosion... sort of like tng final episode... maybe they can do all the trek time travel methods... like the whizzing around the sun
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DannyJC13
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But it's still the exact same formula... You've just changed metal in a microwave to an explosion...
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futurefreak
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Also sounds like they're running out of episode titles.
Seriously? When we've had things like "Mars University", "Fry and the Slurm Factory", "The Lesser of Two Evils", "The Route of All Evil", "The Sting", etc...
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I enjoyed those titles. When two episodes end with "rama" in the span of 26 episodes (going off the TV show title), that tells me it's bad news, regardless if one is technically a season later.
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mattchoo8008
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I only remember Benderama, was there another one?
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Tedward
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« Reply #410 on: 12-31-2011 06:07 »
« Last Edit on: 12-31-2011 06:11 »
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Also sounds like they're running out of episode titles.
Seriously? When we've had things like "Mars University", "Fry and the Slurm Factory", "The Lesser of Two Evils", "The Route of All Evil", "The Sting", etc...
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I enjoyed those titles. When two episodes end with "rama" in the span of 26 episodes (going off the TV show title), that tells me it's bad news, regardless if one is technically a season later.
I think what he’s getting at is that the original series has had somewhat “lazy” or “simple” titles too, and I’d agree with him on some of the ones he listed (at least “Mars University” anyway; “The Route of All Evil” is a decent pun actually, and “The Lesser of Two Evils” is an amusing way to describe Fry’s situation of dealing with two robots, one of whom he doesn’t like but the other of whom actually does worse things), but I’d also agree with you about disappointment at another –rama title. Gorky and I were actually discussing this not too long ago, and we both agree that certain titles are more Futurama-y than others. Some shows don’t have any theme in their titles and that’s fine, but it’s cool when shows do have a title style. For example, the US Office usually had either just a plain noun/noun string to serve as the title, or else titles of the form “The [thing]” (thus I found it much more jarring when suddenly an episode was called “Did I Stutter?”, since it wasn’t of that form). Futurama has not been quite so strict, but we’ve come to expect a certain cleverness of wordplay in the titles. Most of them take an existing term or phrase or title of something else and either interpret it in a clever new way (like “The Deep South”), or replace a word or two with a similar-sounding new one which then provides the link to what the episode entails (like “Roswell That Ends Well”). I think that the absolute pinnacle of this is the title “The Devil’s Hands Are Idle Playthings,” which manages to combine both of these things by not replacing but swapping words in an existing expression and having the result perfectly describe what the episode is about. Brilliant! Some new episodes’ titles have been rather lame, though, like “Proposition Infinity” and “Neutopia” (there’s no fun in those; that those things are said within the episodes makes it worse, I think), and then there are titles like “The Duh-Vinci Code” and “That Darn Katz!” which are a bit closer to the form but still don’t feel right to me by the typical standard of Futurama titles. However, I wouldn’t say that they’re out of ideas, as some new episodes have actually had excellent Futurama-quality titles (such as “A Clockwork Origin,” “Mobius Dick,” “Fry Am the Eggman,” etc.), and I’d give “Rebirth” and “Reincarnation” passes for their simpler titles because they bookend Season 6 and in their content are both special enough to warrant such different-seeming titles (plus "Rebirth" has its meta-pun going for it at least). I’d also give “The Sting” a pass since it’s an episode that’s good enough to deserve it (and when I think about it, it actually is of the first Futurama title form I mentioned), but hey, I don’t want to start mixing opinions of the episodes with opinions of the titles.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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I don't really know any goth girls. I feel this is an area in my life which I'm sadly missing ...
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DannyJC13
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« Reply #415 on: 12-31-2011 14:12 »
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What is Naturama exactly anyway Danny?
I know as much as everyone else... I think what hes getting at is that the original series has had somewhat lazy or simple titles too, and Id agree with him on some of the ones he listed
Correct. I like these "Something-rama" titles, it would be cool to see one or two every season, as long as they keep them creative.
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Just had a look at the old copyright catalogue there's NATURAMA, FREE WILL and FUN ON A BUN. I don't remember seeing these anywhere before. "Free Will" is probably the same episode as "Freewill Hunting" though. As for the -rama similarity; are we forgetting "A Flight to Remember"/"A Pharaoh to Remember" and "A Clone of My Own"/"A Leela of Her Own"? I prefer -rama reuse. It's just the name of the show, the others are unfortunate coincidences.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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The rama re-using is ok, but not something I want them to keep doing. It's like using variations of Doh in Simpsons titles, it's just getting desperate now...
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Another terrible title was "Homer and Lisa Exchange Crosswords", but at least it didn't contain Doh in it...
Also, The Simpsons has an ep called "Future-Drama" before Futurama used the rama theme for titles...
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dommyinla
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agreed.. crosswords was a great title with two meanings and fantastic episode
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Gorky
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And I liked the "D'oh" titles of Simpsons episodes back when the episodes used "Annoyed Grunt" in place of "D'oh" in the titles because that amused me for some reason.
Agreed. I think "Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious" has to be one of the best episode titles ever. And I agree with Tedward's explanation of what constitutes a truly Futurama-ish title. I think the only title of the new run that really impresses me the same way a lot of the old titles did is "The Late Philip J. Fry"--it works on two levels, and both those levels are relevant to the goings-on in the episode (Fry is late for dates, and by episode's end he's died at least once). "The Mutants Are Revolting" gets an honorable mention, I suppose, since it also works on multiple levels; also, "The Tip of the Zoidberg" at least has some clever wordplay. In the end, I guess it doesn't matter if episodes are lazily- or lamely-titled. I do think it's somewhat unfortunate that a few of the episodes with less-than-awesome titles--"Proposition Infinity" comes to mind--also happen to be less-than-awesome in terms of content. I don't think the two problems are related, necessarily, but both of them bum me out a bit.
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« Reply #429 on: 01-01-2012 03:04 »
« Last Edit on: 01-01-2012 03:06 »
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Also sounds like they're running out of episode titles.
Seriously? When we've had things like "Mars University", "Fry and the Slurm Factory", "The Lesser of Two Evils", "The Route of All Evil", "The Sting", etc...
I'm getting the sense you may have missed them, but "Fry and the Slurm Factory" and "The Sting" are take-offs of actual movie titles. That said, the whole run of the show has certainly had some really simple titles, like "Leela's Homeworld." It doesn't really bother me. Sometimes a very simple, reductive title is sort of intriguing, especially when it still sounds unique in and of itself ("Proposition Infinity," "Neutopia," "Mars University") compared to titles that other, non-sci-fi-cartoon shows would have for their titles. I think the only title of the new run that really impresses me the same way a lot of the old titles did is "The Late Philip J. Fry"--it works on two levels, and both those levels are relevant to the goings-on in the episode (Fry is late for dates, and by episode's end he's died at least once).
I always assumed this was because he was presumed dead in the original timeline, not because of the dead Fry clone(?) at the end of the episode.
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Gorky
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Aha--it works on three levels!
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DannyJC13
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I'm getting the sense you may have missed them, but "Fry and the Slurm Factory" and "The Sting" are take-offs of actual movie titles.
Fry and the Slurm Factory is the most obvious one ever. But The Sting? Is it meant to be The Ring?
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I'm getting the sense you may have missed them, but "Fry and the Slurm Factory" and "The Sting" are take-offs of actual movie titles.
Fry and the Slurm Factory is the most obvious one ever.
But The Sting? Is it meant to be The Ring?
Guess again.
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Aren't half the episode titles taken from movies anyway?
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DannyJC13
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They don't have to be related in plot.
Godfellas has nothing to do with Goodfellas.
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