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10/10 (Another Great Finale)   -64 (52%)
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« Reply #80 on: 09-02-2011 13:49 »

Having just watched the episode and now read through this thread; I agree with Josh. This episode felt so condescending. It was as if the writers had skimmed the Shipper thread on PEEL for their inspiration and thought "hey, the fans want them to be together, so let's just state blatantly that they are in a relationship, rather than build up a proper story around them like people who are actually creative. They won't even notice because they'll be too excited about Fry and Leela being together!" Well I noticed. And it hurt. I feel so betrayed and blue-scented.

I thought of it as a purposefully kick in the crotch to shippers.  That's why I liked it.  I like when writers take a dump on their fans.  Like in "The Why of Fry".
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« Reply #81 on: 09-02-2011 13:56 »

Before reading all past comments, just to get my unbiased thoughts off my chest:

Best. Episode. Ever!

Or, well, maybe not best, but it's definitely hitting the top. This was the first episode in a while that had me crying towards the end of the first view. It had an excellent, original plot with plenty of twists, and it was - like Cold Warriors - an exciting, full story with a good pace. It had a lot of heart and emotion, and it was also both action packed and funny.

10 / 10.
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« Reply #82 on: 09-02-2011 14:09 »

I just rewatched this episode, and I liked it so much more the second time around. Mainly, the pacing didn't seem so crazy. A lot still goes on in this episode, but I had an easier time following the story (and the Fry/Leela subplot) the second time around. Call me slow, I guess; I need some overclocking or something.

It still wasn't a non-stop laugh-fest (though, of course, not every episode has to be; I don't think "Time Keeps on Slipping" is hilarious, but it's still freaking brilliant), and there were a few things that rang false to me (mainly Fry's decision to kill himself. What, writers, is every character on this show dealing with latent suicidal tendencies?)--but, overall, I thought the story flowed all right and I could understand each character's motivation for doing what they were doing. Cubert was well-used here (of course, I never hated him in the first place), and I liked seeing Mom again. She always inspires a bit of hilarity (I loved Larry telling her that no one knows how to destroy a boy like she does), and the courtroom stuff--though it kind of slowed the episode down a bit, when the writers could have been focusing on developing the Fry/Leela stuff some more (I agree that it's a bit out of the blue)--lent itself well to some nice reappearances by Judge Whitey ("Before we adjourn for mimosas and horse breeding") and the Hyper Chicken ("Did you say 'extra crispy recipe?'").

As far as the shippiness goes...I don't think it was forced, exactly, nor did I feel like my intelligence was being insulted (then again, I'm not that bright to begin with). I don't think there was much lead-up to Leela's feelings of disenchantment with her relationship with Fry--but, then again, their relationship has been on-again/off-again. I mean, I've certainly been wondering what the hell is going on with those two--so it made sense for Leela to be similarly confused and frustrated. Did she need to leave Fry? Probably not. But I can appreciate why she did (and also why she came back). I didn't like seeing Fry all mopey, but at least his sorrow wasn't entirely because of Leela, but also because of losing the old, illiterate Bender. Like I said in a previous post, I felt like the emotional stuff in this episode rang true. However...

This was the most blatant in-your-face depiction of the Fry/Leela relationship we've really ever seen and at some moments it read nearly like bad fanfiction.

Now that you mention it, I felt similarly about "Rebirth" last year. It was kind of overwrought and melodramatic and what have you. But I think I was only reacting that way precisely because the writers had never been so, like you say, in-your-face about the relationship--just because something is new for the show doesn't mean that it's bad for the show. Yes, this episode was kind of maudlin, and at times Leela seemed needlessly bleak--but I didn't think it was out-of-character for her or anything. After all, she's never loved her job, and I could see why she'd be concerned about being stuck there for the rest of her life. That she eventually realized she missed her job (and things...meaning Fry, but also probably her other coworkers) speaks to how much of a family the PE crew is, and made total sense to me.

I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well here. What I mean to say is that, just because there's some dialogue that sounds more suited to a Serious Drama About Serious Relationships, I don't think that makes the Fry/Leela story bad. In fact, I kind of like seeing the characters interact in a more real way--and that's definitely what we got with that talking-about-our-relationship scene. Ditto the leaving-Planet-Express scene. 'Course, I'm admittedly a diehard shipper and a bit of a sap, so I'm probably just making excuses for what very well may have been crappy writing.

But how could you not love that ending? It was so well-acted (that double-slap gave me one of my only belly-laughs of the episode), and the music was so beautiful, and it was just...satisfying.

10/10
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« Reply #83 on: 09-02-2011 14:16 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 14:20 »

Bender being overclocked was fantastic. Possibly the greatest thing to ever happen to Bender. I wished we could have seen more of that.

I definitely think this premise could have been worked into an entire film. There was so much going on that they could have given more time. I'm pretty sure there are thousands of things I've missed already.

Overall a fantastic episode, but Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings is still my favourite finale. ;)

9.5./10

By the way - it is very disturbing that Walt, Larry and Igner have a pin up of their Mother posing like Farrah Fawcett on the wall. Disturbing, but hilarious.

Bring on Reincarnation!
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« Reply #84 on: 09-02-2011 14:24 »

Best laugh out loud moment was when Bender told Zoidberg to move 3 steps to the right, only for the ceiling fan to drop on his head :D
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« Reply #85 on: 09-02-2011 14:25 »

Just bought this episode and rewatched the ending.

Amy: "Come on in, Leela! Take that ugly coat off."
Leela: "Thanks."

hahaha I laughed pretty hard at that the first time I saw it and still found it amusing today.

Bender definitely says, "The history of Fry and Leela... by Bender". I don't know how I ever missed that before. That's definitely unambiguous. But I think that makes the plot all the better. Fry and Leela don't know exactly what's going to happen to them. They're like any other couple except they've got Bender hanging out in the background.
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« Reply #86 on: 09-02-2011 14:27 »

I don't think it's meant to be implied that Bender actually phonied the story. That said, it's possible, and I wouldn't mind that being revealed in an upcoming episode or whatever.
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« Reply #87 on: 09-02-2011 14:37 »

Now that I think about it, I think this could have easily been an entire movie. Bender becoming ultra powerful has so much potential.

Also, this is my favourite episode with a big focus on Cubert.
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« Reply #88 on: 09-02-2011 14:50 »

My longer critic will follow later, about the "Bender made it up"-aspect:
I think "By Bender" just means that he foresaw these events in the future, he  wrote down what he saw, so he put his name on it as you would do with a book...
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« Reply #89 on: 09-02-2011 15:10 »

Loved it! I loved some of the lines like Benders reaction to Leelas 'knock knock' or when Bender tell Zoidberg to move 3 steps to the left. I thought the hoverfish were great and Leela and Frys fate was really cute at the end. I liked to see they re-used the 'going out of business' banner. I thought it was kinda sad when Fry had gone to the same bridge in which he and Leela spent thier romantic moment, but his fallnig from it was hilarious.

Overall I really enjoyed this episode, great finale.
10/10



Also, If anyone listens with headphones, do you notice that the voices have a slight echo behind them when they're in the PlanEx building? I like that little touch.
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« Reply #90 on: 09-02-2011 15:33 »

My longer critic will follow later, about the "Bender made it up"-aspect:
I think "By Bender" just means that he foresaw these events in the future, he  wrote down what he saw, so he put his name on it as you would do with a book...

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Bender was just attaching his name to something cosmically-designed or whatever. He was acting as the messenger.

Either that, or he did make the whole thing up. Which still wouldn't bother me, because it would be a very sweet thing for him to do. And he made a point of saying that you can't make all of your big decisions by thinking--which, to me, indicates that what matter more in Fry and Leela's case aren't the factual details, but the emotional truths at the heart of their relationship. Those are what will keep them together.

On that note: I liked that this episode wasn't some schmoopy sap-fest where Fry and Leela were proclaiming their undying love for each other every five seconds. At least the writers have moved past the Does Leela love Fry? nonsense of the original run, and are now focused more on Okay, They Love Each Other--But What Does That Mean? That signifies some progress, right?
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« Reply #91 on: 09-02-2011 15:35 »

I'm actually a little surprised by the amount of "10/10" scores I'm seeing right now. Now before I continue, this is not to say this is a bad episode, it's good, especially for a more emotional-heavy episode given how joke-centric this season has been. But I'd hardly call it perfect. Plot-wise, too much was crammed into too little time... Granted, I'm aware that the writers have certain time constraints beyond their control, though still, there are some issues I have with the structure here. Namely, Leela's entire storyline came out of nowhere to begin with, and then very little focus was placed on it after the first act until the very end. I may have to watch this again sometime soon, but yeah, something about this episode, namely Leela's motives in Act 1, just didn't sit right with me. The Bender stuff was fantastic though. Overall, I thought it was a brilliant IDEA for an episode, I just think the execution could've been better.

7/10
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« Reply #92 on: 09-02-2011 15:39 »

Did anyone notice that the tentacle robots were like a completely better version of the weird tentacle robots that were on the most recent episode of Doctor Who?

My guess is that the hoverfish are Futurama's version of the flying monkeys (from The Wizard of Oz).

I immediately thought of the tentacle robots from the Matrix movies, myself.
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« Reply #93 on: 09-02-2011 15:40 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 15:50 »

It's like they feel the show will go down the tubes if the Fry/Leela thing moves even a bit from the stalemate it's in now. My gosh, Amy and Fry went at it and the show didn't burst into flames. They keep hinting that there is something special about the relationship but I don't think they even know what it is. It's just getting plain old boring. They did this before with the ending of ITWGY and Rebirth and then in no time Leela was jumping Zapp's bones again. I'm surprised Fry even get upset anymore, a normal guy (even a dumb one) would just get to the "there she goes again" point with her. Just you wait, they'll push the reset button on the relationship again by having Bender say he made all that stuff in the letter up or he had a processor error.

Compared to Time Keeps on Slipping, Parasites Lost, or Devil's Hands or Leela leaving the group in Bender's Game this was a non-story. Even having Fry or Leela move into one or another's apartment to see what 24/7 would be like would have been more interesting than this. Also, they should just have them go ahead and "do it" and get it out of the way. The situation is going from strange to retarded very quickly (unless they think the audience is all 9 year olds).
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« Reply #94 on: 09-02-2011 16:04 »

Frankly I'm surprised she came back in the end. She's so horrible.

Really? Why do you say that Leela is horrible? She's always had determination, drive, and a certain intelligence about her. I thought it was a natural progression for her to become restless and bored and want to grow. TLPJF showed her future in one...whatever you call it, circular universe...and she led Planet Express to unheralded heights of success. She had the ambition and drive to do that, though it was probably inspired by Fry's departure.

Then that was one of the wort scenes of all the series, Leela's line "Let's talk about our relationship!" was horrible, that was just a stupid way  to make Leela leave Fry. It felt forced and seemed like a bad fanfic.

Now, see, I thought this scene between Leela and Fry was so resonant of real life. It rang so true of the human condition that one person (the brighter, more mature one) would be restless and uncertain, while the other is content to stay with the same ole same ole. I've seen this play out in the relationships all around me--people I know, people I don't. (Thank God I am not one of those people and am happily married :) ) Actually, I vividly felt this scene, because I've been in that position before: feeling sad and torn about a breakup, but at the same time, feeling like the relationship just isn't working.

This dynamic just seemed a natural extension of their characters. It didn't feel cartoony or forced at all.

I mean, her wanting to leave seemed inevitable. In terms of intelligence and maturity, they aren't a match. I do love the chemistry between Fry and Leela, but sometimes I wonder if it's "realistic", for a woman like Leela--beautiful, smart, sexy--to want to be with Fry, who--while very, very sweet and I love his heart of gold--doesn't have much going for him.

But, like the others said, the writing could have built up this subplot more, or incorporated it more seamlessly.
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« Reply #95 on: 09-02-2011 16:06 »

My longer critic will follow later, about the "Bender made it up"-aspect:
I think "By Bender" just means that he foresaw these events in the future, he  wrote down what he saw, so he put his name on it as you would do with a book...

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Bender was just attaching his name to something cosmically-designed or whatever. He was acting as the messenger.

And it is common for Bender to include his name in everything.
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« Reply #96 on: 09-02-2011 16:13 »

And to all those who made the point that Bender could have written Leela's and Fry's fate, that's a brilliant interpretation (sorry, I have lost track of who said what here).

During the scene when Fry asked Bender what lay in store for he and Leela, I was really struck by Bender's sorrowful expression on his face--and then, no reply at all. That was just perfect on the writers' part.

Also, I LOVED Bender's jealous reaction when Fry mentioned Randy, right after Bender pronounced how he's transcended human emotions and is above all that. Oh, that was probably my favorite part of the whole episode!
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« Reply #97 on: 09-02-2011 16:17 »

Great animation in this episode. The fade into this image was absolutely beautiful!


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« Reply #98 on: 09-02-2011 16:19 »
« Last Edit on: 11-09-2011 15:46 »

 :love:
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« Reply #99 on: 09-02-2011 16:27 »

Point of interest: Vyolet was on the jury.  I guess the mutants won more than I thought in their revolution.  Sweet!

EDIT:  Also, when did bender upgrade to an Athlon II in his ass?

I thought this was interesting and sort of funny when I saw it. Now that they have their rights, they have to do jury duty service like the rest of us.

However, that Globetrotter shouldn't have been there! They live on another planet! *nerdrage*
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« Reply #100 on: 09-02-2011 17:08 »

I am ready for Fry to ask Leela to marry him.  I know that when you have a 'power couple' on a TV show, Soap Opera, whatever, there's always more drama to be had in 'keeping them apart'.  But I really think the time has come for Fry and Leela to take the next step.  Then there's engagement drama and fun, wedding drama and fun - it would certainly give the writers plenty of material.  And honestly, I can't see it ruining the story if Fry and Leela did get married.

Come on, Futurama, make a commitment!  
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« Reply #101 on: 09-02-2011 17:09 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 17:13 »

Hey, Wookie got an idea. Why don't we fire all other producers to hell and make Ken Keeler write all episodes?
Marriage? Well, you'll be surprised, how low show ratings will go, if they'll make it. But as for me, I'd definetely watch it.
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« Reply #102 on: 09-02-2011 17:17 »

I was finding this season somewhat disappointing.  This ep came close to redeeming the entire season.  It's a 10.
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« Reply #103 on: 09-02-2011 17:23 »

Yeah, I'm not so keen on Fry and Leela getting married. I feel like that would muck up the dynamic of the show, or at least cause some kind of change in tone. It worked out fine for the Fry and Leela from Universe B The Fighting Mongooses in "The Farnsworth Parabox," but I could see it bogging the show down or limiting some story possibilities. Plus, we haven't even really seen Fry and Leela as boyfriend/girlfriend yet. A marriage would seem kind of rushed and out of nowhere.

Now, see, I thought this scene between Leela and Fry was so resonant of real life. It rang so true of the human condition that one person (the brighter, more mature one) would be restless and uncertain, while the other is content to stay with the same ole same ole.

Exactly. And I think the writers meant for Leela's "Can we talk about our relationship?" to be kind of stereotypical--most guys should know that, when a girl says that, it means trouble. But Fry reacted in his typical Fry way ("I love our relationship, so I'm sure I'll enjoy talking about it" or whatever), which was just so funny and true to his character. I don't think it was forced at all; that was actually one of my favorite scenes of this season (which has been lacking in quiet, character-driven moments).
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« Reply #104 on: 09-02-2011 17:36 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 18:35 »

Not what I was expecting at all. I'm glad the series has been renewed, cause YAY more Futurama, but also because this wasn't the best finale at all. Still too many questions. Bender's overclocked powers could of been shown and used a lot more. Meh. It was great, but I somehow feel let down. :hmpf:

8/10

*edit* Infact, I have a headache right now and I wasn't fully concentrating, I'll give it another viewing later, maybe my opinion will change.
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« Reply #105 on: 09-02-2011 17:52 »

Yeah, I'm not so keen on Fry and Leela getting married. I feel like that would muck up the dynamic of the show, or at least cause some kind of change in tone. It worked out fine for the Fry and Leela from Universe B The Fighting Mongooses in "The Farnsworth Parabox," but I could see it bogging the show down or limiting some story possibilities. Plus, we haven't even really seen Fry and Leela as boyfriend/girlfriend yet. A marriage would seem kind of rushed and out of nowhere.

Well, they could just be engaged for a long time, always lots to happen if you are engaged - and if they did get married, they could always get divorced.  What the girl really wants is to be ASKED to marry - doesn't matter if it really goes through or not in the long run - it's the public acknowledgement that a guy cared enough and bought you a ring : )

Think of the plotline possibilities if they got engaged:

* Either or both the character's personalities change (as people sometimes do, once they feel secure and entitled in a relationship)

* Explore the issue of Mutant & Human marriage – is it legal?  We know the mutants are allowed to be above ground now, but can they inter-marry?

* One of them could get AMNESIA! (gotta have Calculon in that episode, for sure!)

* Old flames of both could come back in various episodes and try to break them up

Now that the daytime Soaps are off the air, those writers need some work, and heaven knows we could always use more amnesia and soap opera comas!  Maybe more evil twins?
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« Reply #106 on: 09-02-2011 18:04 »

If they were ever to be engaged or married, I wouldn't want it to be next season. That's way too soon. They haven't even been in a real committed relationship yet. If that even were to happen there needs to be a good foundation and some lead up.

I don't know if I want to have them married on the show, but maybe just knowing that they will be would be enough.
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« Reply #107 on: 09-02-2011 18:39 »

Thinking more about the possibility of note to be fake is making me also think about first Bender reaction on Fry's question about him and Leela that oOoOoOoO guy first mentioned. What I want to say is that, it can't be correct because first prediction was made if Bender hasn't appeared on trial, so future changed. Bender made a choice between his op-calculations and his old friends. But let's imagine for a second, that Bender hasn't appeared on the trial. Farnsworths get hung), Fry killed by sorrow could possibly commit another try in suicide and succeed, or something like that. That explains Benders reaction in some way. Bender changed future anyway, that's why note is probably true.
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« Reply #108 on: 09-02-2011 18:41 »

I don't want them to get engaged or married. Some shows can pull off characters getting married (Venture Bros) but most get very limited in how much humor you can really bring to the table (The Office).

However, wouldn't reading the future alter the future? Are they fated to the story Bender wrote, or do they have the free will to do what they please despite "knowing" their future? I guess it's not really even important. What's important is that it was clearly a future that they shared together and that's enough for the curious mind wondering whether they want to be together or not.
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« Reply #109 on: 09-02-2011 18:45 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 19:30 »

Fry and Leela getting married? Couldn't imagine it the next seasons...
But if they kept a consistent couple-wise storywriting, it might be possible (for it would not change too much between them).
But such an event would have to be reserved for some REAL big final. E.g. after 200 Futurama episodes, they manage to get a Futurama Theatralical made...for that it would be a possible ending.
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« Reply #110 on: 09-02-2011 18:47 »

I loved this episode I really did. I couldn't help but notice the animation wasn't very good in terms of some of the characters though (Fry especially). I love the ending and while I think it's awesome and sweet, I do feel as though it was a bit contrived. I mean the lack of ship in this season was frustratingly disappointing, and here while it's satisfying I can't help but feel like they could have explored this a lot better. Most episodes just ignored the relationship but then they drop a 'bombshell' (I use that term loosely) like this. I don't know I feel like that wasn't truly a fair deal, I just can't explain myself very well. I love the jokes in their reactions, Leela slapping Fry, then Fry slapping Leela, it was so sweet! I hope they elaborate.

Must dash off to class, will come back to read more on this later.
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« Reply #111 on: 09-02-2011 18:50 »

Nice to see Nine and more of Cubert.
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« Reply #112 on: 09-02-2011 18:51 »

If they won't stick to the note, same as in Final Destination will happen to them:D
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« Reply #113 on: 09-02-2011 18:53 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2011 19:01 »

After viewing this twice, sleeping on it, and thinking about it some more, I've decided to give it an 8/10. It was, well...sloppy at times, but it didn't seem unrealistic; just very blunt. This almost coulda been broken up into 2 episodes, but keeping the stories together worked for me. It's definitely the grandest episode since TLPJF, but like many people have already said, some of it was very forced...That being said, this episode had me alternating between lol's and tear-filled eyes. The ending in particular reminded me of one of those perfectly-done sweet moments from Season 4 (Bender flipping the page to reveal whatever happy ending awaits them, and seeing their expressions change was my breaking point). Also, this woulda been good for a series finale, or at least the last scene, it was very "Devil's Hands-y" and that's a good thing. I'd give it an 8.5 but that's not an option. 9 is too high, sooo...8/10.
Edit: I fully expect their relationship to reset back to nonexistent in the next episode anyway, which would be lame. TV rules shouldn't apply to Futurama, just let them be together, the viewers aren't gonna freak out and leave...
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« Reply #114 on: 09-02-2011 18:59 »

Didn't care for the Bender storyline, but the ending was very good. I'd give it an 8/10. Not as good as COLD WARRIORS.
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« Reply #115 on: 09-02-2011 19:04 »

Loved this episode.  Great snowball effect, it starts with Fry, Cubert and Bender playing video games and that leads to the central plots of the rest of the episode.  I'm disappointed that they didn't focus much on Leela/Fry relationship as they should have, since Leela's leaves, and just comes back at the end.  However, this episode speaks classic Futurama.  The ending was great, not letting us know their fate is pure comedy just seeing their expressions and reactions were good enough.
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« Reply #116 on: 09-02-2011 20:30 »

Loved it! The whole story was funny. I also liked little treats like the tentacle robots Mom sent to bring her Bender.
End the ending with Leela and Fry knowing their future but not us.
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« Reply #117 on: 09-02-2011 21:17 »

So, like everyone else here, I was very excited for this episode. I couldn't watch it last night, but I kept bouncing back and forth to this thread to look at the poll. I was amazed that a majority gave it a score of 10, and that made me even more excited to finally see it!

This was definitely the best episode of the season, and it ranks up there with Devil's Hands, The Sting, etc in terms of Leela/Fry shipping quality. Like has been said a few times already, I'm so happy that the writers acknowledged that the Fry/Leela relationship has been very on-again off-again lately, and the scene where they're reading about their future gave me the warm and fuzzies, too. As far as jokes go, this episode was a little light on them, but the ones that were there were quite funny. I loved the scene with Farnsworth and Cubert in jail, and I loved Cubert and Mom's sons losing to a little Korean girl.
What a great (canon) season finale! 10/10
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« Reply #118 on: 09-02-2011 21:41 »

Anyone notice Leela's pants were blue when she visited PE near the end?
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« Reply #119 on: 09-02-2011 21:47 »

Anyone notice Leela's pants were blue when she visited PE near the end?

Hmmm...I thought she was wearing a skirt? Maybe I am wrong about that...the new episodes always seem to go by so quickly.

This is the one episode where I found Cubert sympathetic. I guess that crying did it for me. And his squealing like a pig...poor kid. :) Maybe this was the writers indulging fan hatred towards him.

And upon my *third* viewing, I caught the funny line made by the German avatar, whom I'm guessing belongs to Walt: Bender: "What's up!" Walt: "Oh, nothing, just eating some spaetzle and listening to Kraftwerk--I mean, fire!" Awesome.

Did anyone get screen captures of the books Bender was hyper-reading yet? I caught titles by Ayn Rand and Shakespeare, then something like "Some of the Digits of Pi."


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