Thoughts on 6ACV23 - All the Presidents' Heads - SPOILERS!

[Reply #80 on:]

For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

[Reply #81 on:]

I found this episode to be, in my opinion, the best of this broadcast season so far. It had an interesting story, and I enjoyed a lot of the president jokes (especially Grant puking in the Bushes). I think it could have been a bit better if they had utilized a B plot that tied into and helped resolve the A plot.

I actually enjoyed a lot of the British jokes, just because I've started getting into British television a bit more now. I also liked hearing the voice actors do the character's voices in British accents; it must've been challenging to do a voice in another voice. It also surprised me how Billy West seemed to have trouble doing a British accent. While I can understand struggling with British Zoidberg, to me it seemed like Katey Sagal, the only "non-professional" voice actor, did a better accent than West.

I gave it a 10, just because it's been the best in comparison to a lot of the other episodes this season (and I got a LOT of laughs out of it).

[Reply #82 on:]

For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

What?! When did Nazi's come into this episode? I see what you mean though, if Britian was defeated by the Nazis then all of America (well, New Britain or w/e) would have been ruled by them.

[Reply #83 on:]

I'm glad to see all of the Brit's getting their panties wet over this episode. It's taking place in an alternate timeline, so you have no idea how the Brit's are going to turn out. Also, America kicked your arse's back in the 1700's. Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

If you do that, whose television programmes will you shamelessly remake and repackage as "HBO original series"?

You'll be happy to know that this Yank loves the original Office. That shite with Carrell is unwatchable. Gervais, FTW!

also, more off topic. Extras was a phenomenal series, as well. He is at his best when making TV series.

[Reply #84 on:]

Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

Yeah, because all of the US gets pissed off by British nerds on a Futurama message board... And I doubt you could, you're all too fat.

Us New Englander's are unlike our Midwestern and Southern Counterparts. Unfortunately, we are also a lot more progressive. You win this time. ARGGGG!!!!

[Reply #85 on:]

Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

Yeah, because all of the US gets pissed off by British nerds on a Futurama message board... And I doubt you could, you're all too fat.

Also bankrupt

For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

That would make for a whole different kind of episode.

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For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

Hahaha.  Learn history.

[Reply #87 on:]

Time travel has always led to good Futurama episodes, and this one is no different. Probably the weakest of the bunch though. It was great to see the presidents again.

9/10

You fount 'Yo Leela Leela' and 'Ghost in the Machines'  better? Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

You obviously didn't catch the context. I meant out of the time travel episodes (including Benders Big Score)

[Reply #88 on:]

Time travel has always led to good Futurama episodes, and this one is no different. Probably the weakest of the bunch though. It was great to see the presidents again.

9/10

You fount 'Yo Leela Leela' and 'Ghost in the Machines'  better? Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

You obviously didn't catch the context. I meant out of the time travel episodes (including Benders Big Score)

i already answered you. i agree, though.

[Reply #89 on:]

I really enjoyed this episode - especially the Doctor Who reference. I think it would have been better with some more up-to-date references in the British section. The most recent reference seemed to be the Spice Girls.

It needed something like a Boris-a-like as mayor of New New York on his bicycle.

[Reply #90 on:]

Do you realize how many years I've waited for just one Doctor Who reference?

The fact that it was Tom Baker is a bonus, yes?

Or are you more of a fan of another Doctor.

[Reply #91 on:]

hang...in effigy....aaand 'H' and 'I' are letters you can monogram....

[Reply #92 on:]

I'm glad to see all of the Brit's getting their panties wet over this episode. It's taking place in an alternate timeline, so you have no idea how the Brit's are going to turn out. Also, America kicked your arse's back in the 1700's. Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

If you do that, whose television programmes will you shamelessly remake and repackage as "HBO original series"?

You'll be happy to know that this Yank loves the original Office. That shite with Carrell is unwatchable. Gervais, FTW!

also, more off topic. Extras was a phenomenal series, as well. He is at his best when making TV series.

Ah good to know.  But next time one of your tourists comes over and says "I can't imagine anyone else as Frank Gallagher in Shameless!" they will get a swift smack in the chops.

I guess it could be more up to date with their British jokes, and the Spice Girls being over a decade out of date, but its who people will get (and its a good thing they didnt use Amy Winehouse, who Americans are likely to recognize).  Americans won't really know who The Wanted or even Girls Aloud are.  And that's a good thing, actually!   A good Cheryl Cole is a contained Cheryl Cole.  A great one would be one encased in concrete and dropped in the Marianas trench, but I'm saving that wish for my birthday.

[Reply #93 on:]

But I mean, I still laughed enough and thought it was basically okay. Modern Simpsons this ain't. The British New York scenes in particular were quite funny. But easily the weakest time-travel show and maybe the weakest of season 6 (In a Gadda Da Leela is the main competition).

Scruffy's voice: "Second."

[Reply #94 on:]

I'm glad to see all of the Brit's getting their panties wet over this episode. It's taking place in an alternate timeline, so you have no idea how the Brit's are going to turn out. Also, America kicked your arse's back in the 1700's. Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

If you do that, whose television programmes will you shamelessly remake and repackage as "HBO original series"?

You'll be happy to know that this Yank loves the original Office. That shite with Carrell is unwatchable. Gervais, FTW!

also, more off topic. Extras was a phenomenal series, as well. He is at his best when making TV series.

Ah good to know.  But next time one of your tourists comes over and says "I can't imagine anyone else as Frank Gallagher in Shameless!" they will get a swift smack in the chops.

I guess it could be more up to date with their British jokes, and the Spice Girls being over a decade out of date, but its who people will get (and its a good thing they didnt use Amy Winehouse, who Americans are likely to recognize).  Americans won't really know who The Wanted or even Girls Aloud are.  And that's a good thing, actually!   A good Cheryl Cole is a contained Cheryl Cole.  A great one would be one encased in concrete and dropped in the Marianas trench, but I'm saving that wish for my birthday.

yeah, i don't know much about British pop-culture, but then again I also don't know much about American pop-culture.

The only modern-day Brit. culture I know is the Page 3 Girls. That I like.

[Reply #95 on:]

I love Time Travel Episodes. It's not Roswell that Ends well, but still pretty good.
 I felt like this one moved too quickly, but all the new ones feel like that, especially on the first viewing.
I enjoyed it though, very different and funny.
I especially loved the first act, Fry having a night job at the head museum and Dr. Good and Sexy calling him Lars. That was awesome I love BBS, and it was nice to see some cannon.

I'll give it a 9/10

[Reply #96 on:]

It was okay, nothing special. Better than last week.
7/10.

I'm just thinking....exactly a year ago The Late Philip J. Fry first aired.

[Reply #97 on:]

That was awesome I love BBS, and it was nice to see some cannon.

The Bender cannon joke was all right.

[Reply #98 on:]

I'm glad to see all of the Brit's getting their panties wet over this episode. It's taking place in an alternate timeline, so you have no idea how the Brit's are going to turn out. Also, America kicked your arse's back in the 1700's. Keep talking like this and we may have to do it again.

For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

Hahaha.  Learn history.

Ya know what I mean. We like building big blow ya arse up shit. So did Germany. I thought there would be more diversions from the actual path than we just being under british rule.

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For some reason I expected a Nazi future when America didn't exist (as a country).

Hahaha.  Learn history.

Ya know what I mean. We like building big blow ya arse up shit. So did Germany. I thought there would be more diversions from the actual path than we just being under british rule.

I don't know what you mean.  Your point fails for three very important reasons:

• The Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany, not the Western Allies; they only helped speed it up.  What the Western Allies (and in particular the US) did do was to ensure the Iron Curtain did not get more West than it did.  So I thank the US for not speaking Russian; not for not speaking German.
• Even if Nazi Germany had survived WW2, it is highly unlikely for it to have lasted after Hitler's death.  Or even less likely for it to have invaded the US.
• And lastly - and most importantly - in this timeline, the British Empire is pretty damn big, and would be able to destroy any Nazi attempt at warmongering in like a week or so.

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Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

[Reply #101 on:]

Before I respond to other posts, I'd like to add that the ending reminded me of the ending of Back To The Future II, with the young kid and the old scientist realizing that the proper history had been restored.

And with Davy Farnsworth out of the way, Eleanor Roosevelt won't get shot by the Professor. 8-)

Also, I'm confused.  So, if you lick or drink the head in jars you go back in time?  How come in Leela of her own, Hank Aaron didn't go back in time when he drank from Wade Boggs head?

Only if it has that opal stuff in it.

Also, is there a reason why they don't show JFK or Obama's heads?  i was expecting them

(This also applies to wowbagger's post.)

Obama wasn't born in the United States, so he was struck from the list of Presidents at a later time.

No, wait, that's not right ... MCCAIN was the one not born in the USA ...

Acually, don't you think the huge number of Presidents would mean that the heads wouldn't all fit on one shelf?

I thought it was funny how Fry revealed that he had a night job working at the Head Museum to pay for coffee to keep him awake for his night job -- that seemed like a classic Fry joke. However, it's shame that Futurama has begun to rely so much on the characters changing jobs to facilitate these stories.

Fry didn't change jobs; he had TWO jobs at the same time. This actually lends credence to TLPJF, where he's always sleeping late.

I also noticed Smitty was in the British version of NNY, meaning he's probably back in the normal version.

Not necessarily. Davy Farnsworth becoming a hero might have altered history so that Smitty decided not to take early retirement.

Besides, THE EPISODES ARE OUT OF ORDER!

And I agree with most people here that it's a shame that they didn't find more inspired ways to mock us Brits,

How about: Learn to spell!

(The Math Department at Arizona State used to have an Englishman as the Chair. We were talking about writing up some certificates for an awards program, and he said: "How about we settle on the phrase 'Honorable mention', without the U, of course." I came within a gnat's hair of saying "I won't put a V in it, either.")

I thought Leela was pretty entertaining this episode.  I especially liked her eying up the silver, before helping herself whilst saying "He has a lot of stuff.  He won't miss this."  Some people are saying it felt out of character, but I disagree.  We all know Leela has moments of weakness and is a hypocrite, and she is capable of being just as greedy or incompetent, so that and her nonchalant excuse felt pretty Leelaish to me.

Maybe Bender should have yelled at her: "I DO THE STEALING AROUND HERE!" a la John F**king Zoidberg ...

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Besides, THE EPISODES ARE OUT OF ORDER!

But this one still takes place after Law and Oracle. Ha. It's 7 eps ahead...

[Reply #103 on:]

Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

You mean no difference at all?

[Reply #104 on:]

The fact that it was Tom Baker is a bonus, yes?

I made myself an exact duplicate of that guy's scarf!

[Reply #105 on:]

Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

You mean no difference at all?

Just that maybe Germany hadn't been beaten as hard and Hitler would have had a harder time.

[Reply #106 on:]

I found this episode amusing, actually. Time travel seems a bit overplayed by me, seeing as BBS was one big time travel episode, and I've been on a Doctor Who bender as of late. Ken Keeler has yet to dissapoint me, and like always, wrote an amazing episode. I'm still in Wisconsin, at least until tomorrow, and there's no Comedy Central, so I iTunes'd it. Worth the two bucks. 8/10

[Reply #107 on:]

Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

You mean no difference at all?

Just that maybe Germany hadn't been beaten as hard and Hitler would have had a harder time.

You don't think anything about WW1, do you?

[Reply #108 on:]

Us New Englander's are unlike our Midwestern and Southern Counterparts. Unfortunately, we are also a lot more progressive. You win this time. ARGGGG!!!!

I would like to point out that I'm from rural New England (in particular, a small part of RI), and most of the people who live around me are just as stupid and redneck-y as all those stereotypes about Midwesterners/Southerners. Also, the area where I live is actually very conservative and Republican (my area is rare, though, RI is a blue state).

I don't know what you mean.  Your point fails for three very important reasons:

• The Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany, not the Western Allies; they only helped speed it up.  What the Western Allies (and in particular the US) did do was to ensure the Iron Curtain did not get more West than it did.  So I thank the US for not speaking Russian; not for not speaking German.
• Even if Nazi Germany had survived WW2, it is highly unlikely for it to have lasted after Hitler's death.  Or even less likely for it to have invaded the US.
• And lastly - and most importantly - in this timeline, the British Empire is pretty damn big, and would be able to destroy any Nazi attempt at warmongering in like a week or so.

It's really interesting (to me, at least) to hear someone from another country talk about WWII. We here in the US tend to imagine that history revolves around us. We were important, yes, but there were other powers at play. Anyway, the Nazi future (probably) wouldn't have happened.

[Reply #109 on:]

Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

You mean no difference at all?

Just that maybe Germany hadn't been beaten as hard and Hitler would have had a harder time.

You don't think anything about WW1, do you?

You never know how busy Britain might have been holding some American rebels back during the same time, or how French-English war would have played out... Changing one variable in history can change a lot others too.

[Reply #110 on:]

Not to imagine how differently WW1 would have ended without interference of the USA...

You mean no difference at all?

Just that maybe Germany hadn't been beaten as hard and Hitler would have had a harder time.

You don't think anything about WW1, do you?

You never know how busy Britain might have been holding some American rebels back during the same time, or how French-English war would have played out... Changing one variable in history can change a lot others too.

I am more likely to doubt there being a WW1 at all.

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That could be possible too.

[Reply #112 on:]

The portrayal of the Queen reminded me of Miranda Richardson's deliriously funny Queen Elizabeth on Blackadder II, so no complaints there.

Fantastic episode, though I agree with the people who said the second and third acts were considerably stronger than the first. There were enough clever slights on England to make up for the easier targets (British teeth being a particularly unfunny example), and I think the designs of alternate NNY are some of the best-done designs on the show's history.

Also, holy crap Maurice LaMarche gives it his all with tons of incredible presidential impressions (and, well, voices for the ones we don't know). Is he also the only one on staff who can do a passable British accent? The rest were pretty much a Summer Stock production of My Fair Lady.

[Reply #113 on:]

Tress MacNeille's accent as the Queen was a decent effort, reminded me of Barbara Windsor.

[Reply #114 on:]

The fact that it was Tom Baker is a bonus, yes?

I made myself an exact duplicate of that guy's scarf!

Which?

I personally want Season 18's magnificent work.

I'm derailing this, and I don't care!

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I really love Tress, but I thought the Queen had the most terrible "english" accent of them all.  She was certainly no Queenie, so the person who said that, just be glad that wasn't a clever thought, because when you have clever thoughts, your foot falls off.

I would have much rather they had chosen an actual Brit actress to play her.  I would have picked either Miranda Richardson, Joanna Lumley, Helena Bohnham Carter or Jane Horricks.  If they had built the character around one of those actresses, the Queen could have been fantastic.  They should definitly reinvent the queen, if they ever exhume her character again.   If they aren't going to do that, I am quite happy to pretend she never existed due to history being changed.

[Reply #116 on:]

Did anyone else think that this episode was lacking in great quotes?

[Reply #117 on:]

"You've really screwed the granny this time." makes up for that : P

[Reply #118 on:]

"You've really screwed the granny this time." makes up for that : P

I'd take a memorable ending over a callback to a better episode any day.

[Reply #119 on:]

"You've really screwed the granny this time." makes up for that : P

I'd take a memorable ending over a callback to a better episode any day.

Truue but I was just referring to the suggested lack of quotability in the episode.