Down! Bad Episode! (Worst Episode Discussion)

[Reply #160 on:]

I'm not in America, but I don't watch it at 3 in the morning. Yeah, but I see what you mean.

[Reply #161 on:]

Imagine my horror when i realised 'Comedy Central' available on Virgin in the UK is completely different to the American one. I thought i was gonna get live Futurama premiering on tv for the first time 

[Reply #162 on:]

Kind of like Yo Leela Leela.

Yo Leela Leela is one of the episodes that most benifits from a rewatch. You have to consider that all of us are watching new episodes with incredibly high expectations that were set due to Futurama normal standard. When an episode comes along which is not what we are used to, isnt hugely funny, and is kinda one dimensional then out comes rage. If you watch it again a bit more relaxed, not watching a poor quality stream at 3am (if you aren't in America you see) then its much more forgiving and just seems like an averge epsisode, nothing special.

Going back to your point about Futurama eps that could have been done without the future setting (for example on The Simpsons), I feel that Yo Leela Leela is a prime example of such an episode. Not only could it have been done on The Simpsons, but even if it was, the whole premise still wouldn't interest me one bit. That's a major reason why it will always be a very bad Futurama episode to me...

[Reply #163 on:]

Imagine my horror when i realised 'Comedy Central' available on Virgin in the UK is completely different to the American one. I thought i was gonna get live Futurama premiering on tv for the first time 

Nope, Sky One over here, every Friday, 8 till' 9. And they air it as a full season, they don't split it up, meaning we'll only get Season 7 in 2013.

[Reply #164 on:]

Imagine my horror when i realised 'Comedy Central' available on Virgin in the UK is completely different to the American one. I thought i was gonna get live Futurama premiering on tv for the first time 

Nope, Sky One over here, every Friday, 8 till' 9. And they air it as a full season, they don't split it up, meaning we'll only get Season 7 in 2013.

At least if Futurama is cancelled soon then i can destroy every computer i have access to, lock myself in my room for a year and then sit down and watch Futurama S7 live on sky one when it airs in 2013. That'll show em im not CRAZY!! 

[Reply #165 on:]

Kind of like Yo Leela Leela.

Yo Leela Leela is one of the episodes that most benifits from a rewatch. You have to consider that all of us are watching new episodes with incredibly high expectations that were set due to Futurama normal standard. When an episode comes along which is not what we are used to, isnt hugely funny, and is kinda one dimensional then out comes rage. If you watch it again a bit more relaxed, not watching a poor quality stream at 3am (if you aren't in America you see) then its much more forgiving and just seems like an averge epsisode, nothing special.

Going back to your point about Futurama eps that could have been done without the future setting (for example on The Simpsons), I feel that Yo Leela Leela is a prime example of such an episode. Not only could it have been done on The Simpsons, but even if it was, the whole premise still wouldn't interest me one bit. That's a major reason why it will always be a very bad Futurama episode to me...

Yeah thats my main gripe with Yo Leela Leela, even the bits that WERE hilarious could have been done on any show (the bits with the schedule of new childrens shows)

[Reply #166 on:]

Imagine my horror when i realised 'Comedy Central' available on Virgin in the UK is completely different to the American one. I thought i was gonna get live Futurama premiering on tv for the first time 

For me one of the best things about visiting my family in NY was getting to see the live episodes as they came, last year!  I even watched Clockwork Origin with my three year old cousin.

[Reply #167 on:]

Yeah but a plus about the UK versions is that there is no watermark at any corner of the screen, the only thing that ruins it is the little box that pops up near the end that tells you what's coming up next. ¬_¬

[Reply #168 on:]

For me one of the best things about visiting my family in NY was getting to see the live episodes as they came, last year!

I read that as NNY for some reason...

[Reply #169 on:]

Kind of like Yo Leela Leela.

Yo Leela Leela is one of the episodes that most benifits from a rewatch. You have to consider that all of us are watching new episodes with incredibly high expectations that were set due to Futurama normal standard. When an episode comes along which is not what we are used to, isnt hugely funny, and is kinda one dimensional then out comes rage. If you watch it again a bit more relaxed, not watching a poor quality stream at 3am (if you aren't in America you see) then its much more forgiving and just seems like an averge epsisode, nothing special.

Going back to your point about Futurama eps that could have been done without the future setting (for example on The Simpsons), I feel that Yo Leela Leela is a prime example of such an episode. Not only could it have been done on The Simpsons, but even if it was, the whole premise still wouldn't interest me one bit. That's a major reason why it will always be a very bad Futurama episode to me...

You couldn't do Yo Leela Leela on The Simpsons because of the whole "Oh, the characters are real and live on another planet" angle. That's a major part of the episode and that's the reason that it felt like Futurama to me. Maybe light-hearted Futurama, but it was still distinctly sci-fi.

[Reply #170 on:]

Kind of like Yo Leela Leela.

Yo Leela Leela is one of the episodes that most benifits from a rewatch. You have to consider that all of us are watching new episodes with incredibly high expectations that were set due to Futurama normal standard. When an episode comes along which is not what we are used to, isnt hugely funny, and is kinda one dimensional then out comes rage. If you watch it again a bit more relaxed, not watching a poor quality stream at 3am (if you aren't in America you see) then its much more forgiving and just seems like an averge epsisode, nothing special.

Going back to your point about Futurama eps that could have been done without the future setting (for example on The Simpsons), I feel that Yo Leela Leela is a prime example of such an episode. Not only could it have been done on The Simpsons, but even if it was, the whole premise still wouldn't interest me one bit. That's a major reason why it will always be a very bad Futurama episode to me...

You couldn't do Yo Leela Leela on The Simpsons because of the whole "Oh, the characters are real and live on another planet" angle. That's a major part of the episode and that's the reason that it felt like Futurama to me. Maybe light-hearted Futurama, but it was still distinctly sci-fi.

Exactly, and they felt right at home with a lot of the strange aliens and parallel universes (the Yarn people for example, the trumpet nosed woman from the Miss Universe pagent, the cowboy universe).  Maybe Princess Num Num the cupcake alien was pushing it a bit, but thats about it.

[Reply #171 on:]

Yeah but a plus about the UK versions is that there is no watermark at any corner of the screen, the only thing that ruins it is the little box that pops up near the end that tells you what's coming up next. ¬_¬

and the water mark at the start and at the end of the programe (only 15 secs)

[Reply #172 on:]

and the water mark at the start and at the end of the programe (only 15 secs)

Well it doesn't really affect much except the opening.

[Reply #173 on:]

Kind of like Yo Leela Leela.

Yo Leela Leela is one of the episodes that most benifits from a rewatch. You have to consider that all of us are watching new episodes with incredibly high expectations that were set due to Futurama normal standard. When an episode comes along which is not what we are used to, isnt hugely funny, and is kinda one dimensional then out comes rage. If you watch it again a bit more relaxed, not watching a poor quality stream at 3am (if you aren't in America you see) then its much more forgiving and just seems like an averge epsisode, nothing special.

Going back to your point about Futurama eps that could have been done without the future setting (for example on The Simpsons), I feel that Yo Leela Leela is a prime example of such an episode. Not only could it have been done on The Simpsons, but even if it was, the whole premise still wouldn't interest me one bit. That's a major reason why it will always be a very bad Futurama episode to me...

You couldn't do Yo Leela Leela on The Simpsons because of the whole "Oh, the characters are real and live on another planet" angle. That's a major part of the episode and that's the reason that it felt like Futurama to me. Maybe light-hearted Futurama, but it was still distinctly sci-fi.

The reveal was one of the worst parts of the episode, it shouldn't have been done. Therefore without it it would work on The Simpsons...

[Reply #174 on:]

These new episodes have been so bad they gave me cancer! Oh, wait...

Seriously though, I too have found Season 6B to be rather disappointing so far, though at the moment I don't have the wherewithal to defend my opinions in more depth. There have been funny moments, though, and I'll remain hopeful for the remaining episodes.

[Reply #175 on:]

These new episodes have been so bad they gave me cancer! Oh, wait...

Too soon!

[Reply #176 on:]

These new episodes have been so bad they gave me cancer! Oh, wait...

ROFL

[Reply #177 on:]

I actually think the new episodes have been every bit as good as any of the average episodes from the original run. It's just that these "classic" eps are being viewed through the lens of nostalgia.
I'll grant that we still haven't had the emotional resonance episode, like Luck of the Fryish, Time Keeps on Slippin', Leela's Homeworld, Jurassic Bark, The Sting, and Devil's Hands. The Late Philip J. Fry is the only one that comes close to those. But in terms of competent sci-fi comedy it's all been pretty darn good. Law & Oracle in particular had me in stitches.

I find 'The Honking' to be my least favourite episode. Just... silly.

[Reply #178 on:]

I agree totally. I have been re-watching random eps from season 2-5 inbetween the new ones and to be honest some old ones have the same uneccessary pop culture references as season 6 and some of them have the same flimsy ending to an episode. But that doesn't mean that they are bad episodes just that the new season isn't so awful. Except for the barfingly  bad Prop Infinity....I would rather watch That's Lobstertainment than that empty, cheap episode.

So PI is definately my least favourite episode

[Reply #179 on:]

Argh! i hated PI too! I watched it the other day and I still didn't like it.

For me PI and Neutopia are my least favorite episodes..and BG is the worst movie. I don't think I will be watching those ones in a long time.

[Reply #180 on:]

Argh! i hated PI too! I watched it the other day and I still didn't like it.

For me PI and Neutopia are my least favorite episodes..and BG is the worst movie. I don't think I will be watching those ones in a long time.

Missed some of the 6B run so haven't seen Neutopia yet. I have to say though I enjoyed most of BG...just for the D&D / Cornwood / LOTR content...although now that I think of it it may have been the only one I actually fell asleep on when watching it for the first time (I bought and watched BWABB and BG on the same day and watched them back to back).

[Reply #181 on:]

Overclockwise, the penultimate episode of the current season, was written before the series was renewed for a seventh season, and so will have an open-ended pseudo-conclusion like Devil's Hands.
I know this is speculation (should be in the speculation thread), but it ties into what I was saying above about the emotional resonance episodes, in that I hope this one will be the tearjerker for season 6.

[Reply #182 on:]

I've never really understood the hate for Bender's Game. The first half was brilliant, and the second was good as well. The only problem is that they were really poorly connected.

[Reply #183 on:]

Same thoughts here, Unreal. I really enjoyed it actually, at first it looked really naff, but it was alright.

[Reply #184 on:]

Too soon!

Well, they did say my sense of taste might be affected...

[Reply #185 on:]

I find 'The Honking' to be my least favourite episode. Just... silly.

Something that pisses me off: Why does everyone say this ep isn't canon?! Oh what so Fry can just become a Cop like that but Bender turning into a Werecar is just too unbelievable? Yet you'll believe that New New York was built over Old New York and Robots run on alcohol and whatnot.

[Reply #186 on:]

I've never heard anybody say it isn't canon.

Canon isn't about believability, anyway.

[Reply #187 on:]

I find 'The Honking' to be my least favourite episode. Just... silly.

Something that pisses me off: Why does everyone say this ep isn't canon?! Oh what so Fry can just become a Cop like that but Bender turning into a Werecar is just too unbelievable? Yet you'll believe that New New York was built over Old New York and Robots run on alcohol and whatnot.

• The episode is the first "halloween" episode.
• There are inconsistencies between this and other episodes. One is the way in which robot mortality is treated, another is the question of whether all human ghosts are "dead", another is the question of Calculon having been David Duchovny, who is a seperate person in the Futuramaverse (I think I recall seeing his head in a jar somewhere as well). There's also the connection between bender and Robo-hungaria and his having a castle that are never touched on again... there are more, but I'll stop listing them now.
  
• If the Honking is not canon, this doesn't affect the canon or continuity of anything else in the series.
• If the Honking is canon, it raises questions about the way that robots operate within the Futuramaverse which have no easy answers.
• It's very, very silly.

It's of doubtful canonicity. It's something that the writers have yet to confirm or deny. Nobody's said that it is or it isn't, but it's definitely in question, and has yet to be addressed satisfactorily by anybody involved with the show's production.

[Reply #188 on:]

The Honking doesn't seem that silly to me.  I would say Kif gets Knocked up a Notch boggles my brain far more, but I still enjoyed the episode.

All the President's Heads had too many ideas in it that just didn't work.  Licking the heads takes you back to that president's era, and no one has noticed that before?  I just felt 90percent of the ideas in that episode where brainstorming suggestions that should have been shot down before they went too far.  Or people just said "Yeah, that will do" instead of trying to make the ideas feel more plausiable, and to make them gel together better.   I dont hate the episode, but it feels more like a rough draft rather then a completed episode.

[Reply #189 on:]

The Honking doesn't seem that silly to me.  I would say Kif gets Knocked up a Notch boggles my brain far more, but I still enjoyed the episode.

That ep sucks, I remember watching it shortly after it aired and couldn't believe what Futurama had become. One of the worst eps of Futurama, even now with many more eps in the can it is still one of the worst to me. I'd take The Honking over it any day!...

As for Bender's Game, I hate it so much, even more than Kif Gets Knocked up a Notch...

[Reply #190 on:]

The Honking is nowhere near the worst episode ever (It's not even the worst of the season) It's very funny has a great plot and lots of great action scenes that kept me (And I'm sure many others) very entertained throughout...

[Reply #191 on:]

The Honking doesn't seem that silly to me.  I would say Kif gets Knocked up a Notch boggles my brain far more, but I still enjoyed the episode.

All the President's Heads had too many ideas in it that just didn't work.  Licking the heads takes you back to that president's era, and no one has noticed that before?  I just felt 90percent of the ideas in that episode where brainstorming suggestions that should have been shot down before they went too far.  Or people just said "Yeah, that will do" instead of trying to make the ideas feel more plausiable, and to make them gel together better.   I dont hate the episode, but it feels more like a rough draft rather then a completed episode.

I agree about All the President's Heads episode. The concept was interesting, but the method was poorly executed. It just felt on level with FG type of humor. 

[Reply #192 on:]

The Honking is nowhere near the worst episode ever (It's not even the worst of the season) It's very funny has a great plot and lots of great action scenes that kept me (And I'm sure many others) very entertained throughout...

Same thoughts here.

I never knew Otis hated Futurama so much.

[Reply #193 on:]

The Honking is canon. I mean, most of the canon episodes haven't had confirmation that they're canon afterwards -we just take them to be so, and a lot of those episodes have other continuity errors and so forth.  Iffy continuity =/= non-canon.

Anyway, I quite enjoy The Honking. It's a bit too far fetched for me at times (I wish they'd dialed back on the werecar transformation) but it's an enjoyable story all the same and very funny. I'd certainly rate it in the better half of season 2.

[Reply #194 on:]

I enjoyed the Honking.  It's a great parody of werewolf movies, with a bit of Christine thrown in for good measure.  Plus it introduced the Gypsy, one of the best recurring characters ever.

[Reply #195 on:]

The Honking is canon.

It's of dubious canonicity at best. You can consider it canon if you like, but if I were writing some sort of Futurama guidebook or concordance, I'd quite definitely put something in there saying that it needs Word-of-God confirmation beforew e can ever confidently assert whether it's canon or not.

[Reply #196 on:]

Really?  People are disputing the episode's canonity now?  Futurama's episodes are all canon unless stated otherwise (the only non AOI non canon episode is Holiday Spectacular, after all.  The writers have even said they use the AOI episodes because they want to explore ideas that don't work in canon such as main characters dying.)

[Reply #197 on:]

It's a great parody of werewolf movies

Either you haven't seen the best werewolf movies, or you and I have wildly differing opinions on what constitutes a "great parody". I'm fairly sure that parts of it are in fact intentionally stupid, for example, which puts it solidly in the B-category rather than A as far as parodies are concerned.

Really?  People are disputing the episode's canonity now?  Futurama's episodes are all canon unless stated otherwise.

IIRC there's something in one of the commentaries (might even be for that episode) where they ask if the episode is canon, and then gloss smoothly over it without answering the question. Then again, it might be from an interview. I'll watch it with commentary at some point soon to check. If it's not in that commentary, I'll watch all of them with commentary, listening for the bit I think I remember, and if I can't hear it there, I'll search the web for any interviews. If I can't find the staff casting doubt on its canonicity within the next six months, I'll concede that point to you.

If I can find it, and you still disagree with me, then I'm going to come and sit you down in front of a computer and tape your fucking eyeballs open and make you watch the episode or interview in question over and over and over again until your brain bleeds out of your ears.

[Reply #198 on:]

I think an American Werewolf in London is a great werewolf movie, if not the best, and there were elements of it in that.   However I took the episode as "average werewolf movie smooshed with Christine" and thats what came out.

And I can take watching the Honking over and over again.  Duh Vinchi Code on the other hand... *shudders*.

However, I had absolutely no idea The Honking was not considered canon until I came to this site.  If the writers just write non canon episodes whenever they feel like it, why did they go out of their way to point out AOI was a non canon episode, or that Futurama Holiday Spectacular was a non-AOI noncanonical episode?

[Reply #199 on:]

If the writers just write non canon episodes whenever they feel like it

The Honking was the first Halloween episode. The AOI episodes are Halloween episodes. The Holiday spectacular is Xmas themed. I'm pretty sure that non-canonical episodes will only ever be written to be aired on holiday celebrations.