The old "Everything is worse now" discussion - General Futurama Discussion. SPOILER ALERT

[Reply #440 on:]

Why don't you spend the off-season getting pudgy and knocking up supermodels, like our greatest sports heroes?

I'm already pudgy, and for some reason I have a distinct lack of supermodels asking me to knock them up. Otherwise, that'd be the plan!

[Reply #441 on:]

Pick your sport then open the doors, but don't forget a condom, or two...

[Reply #442 on:]

How'm I going to knock 'em up if I wear a condom or two?

[Reply #443 on:]

Think big TNUK, you'll be scoring with much more than just two! Those are for the ones you really don't want anything more to do with further down the line...

[Reply #444 on:]

Otis, if I thought about it like that, I'd end up wearing condoms with all of them. Much simpler to kill the ones I never want to talk to again, after having sex with them.

[Reply #445 on:]

Here is a comparison of Season 6 ratings from PEEL (x axis) and CGEF (y axis). The red line indicates both PEEL and CGEF ratings being identical.

As you can see, most of the episode ratings are fairly close between the two systems, however CGEF voters like The Silence of the Clamps much more than PEEL voters do, while PEEL voters like Yo Leela Leela much more than CGEF voters do.

The result is that The Silence of the Clamps is only about one rating point better than Yo Leela Leela on PEEL, but four and a half rating points better on CGEF.

Click on image for full-sized graph.

[Reply #446 on:]

Now that is a wonderful graph.

[Reply #447 on:]

It did give me a graph boner, but the JPEG artefacts kills any boner.

[Reply #448 on:]

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[Reply #449 on:]

Nice graph, but to think that Peel likes Holiday Craptacular and Yo Leela Leela more. I thought Peel had taste ...

[Reply #450 on:]

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Save it as a .png and host it on imgur - problem solved.

[Reply #451 on:]

Nice graph, but to think that Peel likes Holiday Craptacular and Yo Leela Leela more. I thought Peel had taste ...

Pffft, most PEELers hate the new Season...

[Reply #452 on:]

They just hate themselves. I'm unlisted.

[Reply #453 on:]

Nice graph, but to think that Peel likes Holiday Craptacular and Yo Leela Leela more. I thought Peel had taste ...

I would not say that PEEL voters actually like those two episodes, more that they dislike them less than the people at CGEF do.  They are still the two bottom-ranked episodes of the season at both sites.

The real surprise to me was the difference in opinion between the two sites regarding The Silence Of the Clamps.  5th-worst episode of Season 6 so far at PEEL, but one of the top-rated episodes of Season 6 at CGEF.

[Reply #454 on:]

It did give me a graph boner, but the JPEG artefacts kills any boner.

Here is the link to the BMP uncompressed version.

[Reply #455 on:]

The real surprise to me was the difference in opinion between the two sites regarding The Silence Of the Clamps.  5th-worst episode of Season 6 so far at PEEL, but one of the top-rated episodes of Season 6 at CGEF.

Yeah that is kinda odd, especially as CGEF ranks it above Möbius Dick. Speaking of which, where is Möbius Dick?...

[Reply #456 on:]

Speaking of which, where is Möbius Dick?...

[Reply #457 on:]

Interesting, well I'm glad to see it's on the Peel side ...

[Reply #458 on:]

Speaking of which, where is Möbius Dick?...

Wow! So my current top 3 favourite episodes of Season 6B are all on the CGEF side! How odd...

[Reply #459 on:]

So you're one of them are you? ...

[Reply #460 on:]

So you're one of them are you? ...

Call me crazy, but I think the Season 6B CGEF ratings are pretty much accurate at the moment.

[Reply #461 on:]

You're crazy!

But possibly right.

[Reply #462 on:]

The CGEF ratings for 6B aren't bad, but of course neither are the PEEL ones and they're not that different with a couple exceptions.

[Reply #463 on:]

This is an improved version of the previous PEEL versus CGEF season 6 comparisons.  I have normalized the PEEL numbers to be on the same scale as the CGEF numbers (they run from 1 to 10, I have stretched them to run from 0 to 10 like the CGEF numbers), so they are now directly comparable.

The PEEL numbers now run along the y axis and the CGEF numbers on the x axis, so the directions are reversed -- the episodes more liked by PEEL are now to the left of the red line, while the episodes more liked by CGEF are now to the right of the red line.

In general, the Season 6 episodes now have ratings that are closer to each other at the two sites than was the case in the earlier version of this chart.

[Reply #464 on:]

I'm viewing this thread on the mobile site...I can't see the graphs, and they sound so good that I'm excited to go onto a computer and view them with my own eyes.

[Reply #465 on:]

^ditto. I am tempted to copy the link by hand in the browser so I can see them full scale! In fact, yes I think I will do that!

Thanks for the comparisons and very nice work, Mongo! It's times like this I really appreciate all the badass fans here

On the topic of montages that were brought up a page or so back, I felt the one in The Tip of the Zoidberg was a bit weak. I liked the music chosen, but it had like only barely 3 scenes for it...and they weren't that great. To me their best montages are ones that evoke great emotion, like in Jurassic Bark.

[Reply #466 on:]

The new graph is really interesting and well laid out. Some of the variations between here and CGEF are plain odd, but it seems to me that the very best and very worst eps are mainly on Peel's side... I expect updates when the new eps air ...

[Reply #467 on:]

A bit unrelated, but I've noticed what the show is missing moments that leave a lump in your throat or a moments that make you go "Aaw". Like moments in Jurassic Bark, The Luck of the Fryrish or that moment between Fry and Leela at the end of The Sting. I sort of miss these moments.






...or maybe I just can't remember.

[Reply #468 on:]

Well TLPJF had them, plenty of them, but perhaps Season 6 has less overall (so far) yes ...

[Reply #469 on:]

All the posts that were here are now located in the Re-check/Weird scenes forum in a temporary stickied thread. Just fyi!

[Reply #470 on:]

A bit unrelated, but I've noticed what the show is missing moments that leave a lump in your throat or a moments that make you go "Aaw". Like moments in Jurassic Bark, The Luck of the Fryrish or that moment between Fry and Leela at the end of The Sting. I sort of miss these moments.






...or maybe I just can't remember.

This is true. The last episode that gave me the warm-and-fuzzies (in a good way) was probably "The Late Philip J. Fry"--though there were a few sweet moments in "The Mutants are Revolting," I guess. But yeah, other than TLPJF and "Lethal Inspection," there haven't been any real, make-ya-cry emotional moments or episodes this season. That's not a bad thing, necessarily (seasons one and two were more or less lacking in this respect; seasons three and four were decidedly more downer-y or resonant or what have you), but I'm certainly hoping that "Overclockwise" has some tearjerkiness going for it.

[Reply #471 on:]

There is another thing that I miss. The episodes just don't feel very Futurama'ish', they seem to be so different to each other and to me feel as though each episode is like a new start rather than just 'same crew different situation'. It could also partly be because of the fact the crew are going on adventures but not making a delivery then put into a situation or adventure. Anyone get me?

[Reply #472 on:]

There is another thing that I miss. The episodes just don't feel very Futurama'ish', they seem to be so different to each other and makes me feel as though each episode is like a new start rather than just 'same crew different situation'. It could partly be because the fact the crew are going on adventures but not making a delivery then put into a situation or adventure. Anyone get me?

It's true, most of the new episodes have taken place in NNY.  They should so some more where they go on adventures to other planets.  They didn't make all that many deliveries to begin with, however in the original run.

[Reply #473 on:]

I think I know what you mean, Futurama feels quite different now. It's still Futurama, but it's just, different. Having said that I think that Möbius Dick was more in the old style and feel, at least to me. Maybe that's partly why I liked it so much. It seemed quite upper-tier Season 4ish...

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One thing I really would like them to do is explore the rest of the Earth in future episodes (for the most part, it feels like NNY is the entire planet sometimes).  It would actually be awesome to see how Earth's cities and countries have changed in the last thousand years, therefore it would feel a LOT less lazy or gratituous then "The Simpsons are going to _____!!!"
Atlanta being the 31st Century Atlantis was an awesome idea. As was the Loihi seamount becoming an island (10 thousand years ahead of schedule, but I can still buy it)

Places I would like them to visit in future:
London (duhhr)
Tokyo
The Marianas Trench
Amazon Rainforest
The Mantle (we're due a deep underground episode)
San Francisco

Not just that, but I would like to see more of the Solar System.  We have actually seen more of deep space then we have seen of the solar system, or even the rest of earth.
 

[Reply #475 on:]

They already did visit San Francisco in Bendin' In The Wind. Also, as awesome as Tokyo would be for them to visit, they at least went to Kyoto in Crimes of the Hot. I don't want them visiting London after having witnessed the terrible English jokes in All The Presidents Heads. Those other places you mentioned would be interesting, and I agree that more of our own solar system should be explored too...

[Reply #476 on:]

They already did visit San Francisco in Bendin' In The Wind. Also, as awesome as Tokyo would be for them to visit, they at least went to Kyoto in Crimes of the Hot. I don't want them visiting London after having witnessed the terrible English jokes in All The Presidents Heads. Those other places you mentioned would be interesting, and I agree that more of our own solar system should be explored too...

True, but those visits were so brief they really didn't count.   I think a visit to the Marianas Trench would be interesting, as they would be exploring the really deep sea with black smokers and tube worms and wotnot, so it wouldn't be too much like Deep South.  (Though it does seem too similar to an idea i had about them exploring under Europa's ice shelf.) 

I think a London episode would be great, if they actually got British voice actors (Joanna Lumley, Ben Whishaw, Jane Horricks, Helena Bonham Carter, Bill Bailey, Tamsin Grieg or so) for the characters.  I really don't get how they know the Underground is called "the tube" but couldn't grasp the idea that no one in England actually speaks like that.  I'm the only person who calls anyone "duckie" and that's only when I talk to a friend whose last name is "duck."

Tokyo begs an exploration, because well... it's the closest thing we have to NNY today!  Imagine what Tokyo in a thousand years is going to look like.  They probably will keep space goldfishes from Wazn as pets and fairground prizes.

[Reply #477 on:]

I would love an episode set in the Britain but without the stupid stereotypical 'tea and crumpets' Britain. The writers obviously know what Britsh people are actually like as Hermes in ATPH was pretty accurate. I would also love to see what they would do with the concept of The Tube or a twist on any of the British landmarks (like Big Ben being digital or something). I would also like to see another Doctor other than the fourth, I wanna see Matt Smith Futurama'ised'! 

[Reply #478 on:]

One idea I had for the episode that a bad batch of tea killed off most of the Windsors, and tea has been banned for 600 years in Britain, and now most people there have never heard of it.  The few that do assume it's an alcoholic beverage.

Also I think all the suicide booths in London should be Tardises.

[Reply #479 on:]

You've clearly been putting a lot of thought into this, I like the ideas, but I would still be very worried about the prospect of London in Futurama due to the stereotypical jokes which would likely result. It’s almost asking for it to happen with the tea thing, it would be a very thin line, very ...