DannyJC13
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Pickles reminded me of General Grievous from Star Wars...
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DannyJC13
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Mods, please move to the 'Law and Oracle' thread.
Hell no, this is the general discussion thread. I tried creating a thread for stuff like it, but it was locked and I was told to come here. By a mod. Ha.
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DannyJC13
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I actually thought Roberto's voice sounded off in "Law and Oracle," too, but I may be alone there.
Just listened again, it does seem slightly different. ALSO, I NERDGASM'D, JUST SAW THE NEW CRYO-TUBES IN THE APPLIED CRYOGENICS BUILDING. WOOOOO!
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Aki
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Eh, seems realistic for Fry to sound a little older than he used to.
It doesn't seem realistic that Fry sounds older in this episode compared to previous episodes this season (that all take place in the future as compared to this).
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Gorky
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I also think Katey Sagal's voice sounds different--though interestingly enough she sounds younger (read: whinier) to me in certain sixth season episodes (and the movies) than she did in the original series.
And the quality of Fry's voice (be it deeper or higher or younger or older) changes from episode to episode; I honestly think it's a random kink in Billy West's voice acting, not a conscious choice to make the character sound older.
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Aki
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Well, when Billy West started making Fry as an impersonation of himself, it was only 23 years ago he reportedly sounded like that. Now it's 36 years. Obviously, it's getting harder as his current voice changes with age.
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Aki
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They don't really bother me either, I like to see the overall change from season 1 to season 6 as Fry getting older. I don't even notice a difference episode from episode unless I really think about it, and it is just as easy to shut it off. Personally, I admire most voice actors and -actresses out there, because it seems so magical and extraordinary for me. I can picture people acting (regularly), painting, playing music, writing, what have you, but voice acting has a special place in my heart because it seems so magical. The times I've seen video of someone from the cast while doing their voices... wow. It feels impossible. I really admire that someone like Billy West (and John DiMaggio and all the others) can do such varied and such cool voices, and be able to reproduce it from year to year.
Still, I can get annoyed when a more seldom used character comes back with a somewhat different voice. Not extremely annoyed every time, but somewhat, because the first voice really sticks with me. This has been the case with quite a few secondary and tertiary characters of the second run, including but not limited to Smitty and Roberto.
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i_c_weiner
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« Reply #253 on: 07-09-2011 01:29 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2011 01:45 »
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Mods, please move to the 'Law and Oracle' thread.
Hell no, this is the general discussion thread. I tried creating a thread for stuff like it, but it was locked and I was told to come here.
By a mod. Ha.
But you're discussing Law and Oracle specifically in it. It's like if we have a religion debate in the test thread. And, for that matter, the purpose of this thread is much more defined than the test thread: this is for discussion and comparison between episodes at large, specifically the "Everything sucks now" topic. We have threads for the individual episodes, it would behoove you to discuss the individual episodes in their individual threads. I mean, Law and Oracle's thread even stickied. And don't even try to make this ad hominem.
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futurefreak
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This thread should be used for the purpose of comparing old to new Futurama, or discussing Futurama on a wholescale that doesn't necessarily fit with the other threads (you know, to go with the flow of things). If you have specific remarks about a particular episode, just take it to the episode's thread. It's an iffy situation, you just has to use your best judgment on it so I don't have to make it for you. This topic was initially created by [-mArc-] to keep the news and episode review threads clean of other banter.
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Aki
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In hindsight, I'm surprised at how well "Law and Oracle" worked as compared to other similar style episodes (lead characters leaving their job) in the original run. We have "A Leela of Her Own", which most fans rate as one of the worst episodes, and we have "Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television", which most fans see as a pretty solid episode. And then comes "Law and Oracle" and is rated 8/10, 9/10, 10/10. I think everything is not worse now.
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flesheatingbull
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They don't really bother me either, I like to see the overall change from season 1 to season 6 as Fry getting older. I don't even notice a difference episode from episode unless I really think about it, and it is just as easy to shut it off. Personally, I admire most voice actors and -actresses out there, because it seems so magical and extraordinary for me. I can picture people acting (regularly), painting, playing music, writing, what have you, but voice acting has a special place in my heart because it seems so magical. The times I've seen video of someone from the cast while doing their voices... wow. It feels impossible. I really admire that someone like Billy West (and John DiMaggio and all the others) can do such varied and such cool voices, and be able to reproduce it from year to year.
Still, I can get annoyed when a more seldom used character comes back with a somewhat different voice. Not extremely annoyed every time, but somewhat, because the first voice really sticks with me. This has been the case with quite a few secondary and tertiary characters of the second run, including but not limited to Smitty and Roberto.
bubblegum tate(sweet clyde too) have also sounded off at times this season.
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futurefreak
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My whole point was, the whole run isn't turning out to be as bad as that. I realize the production order is off.
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Gorky
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Like I said earlier in the news thread, "The Silence of the Clamps" is the only episode remaining in season 6B for which I am less-than-excited; every other episode seems like it will be pretty interesting. There's something to be said for starting off with your weaker episodes (though I enjoyed "Neutopia" and "Benderama"; "Ghost in the Machines" could have been better), if only because "weak" by Futurama standards is still pretty damn good, and I'd rather sit through a few subpar episodes at the beginning of the season than wait for them to all pop up at the end. That doesn't make any sense, probably, but it's how I feel about the matter. Admittedly, the network would be best off spacing out the super-brilliant episodes and the not-so-stellar ones...or, alternately, the writers would be better of not writing crappy episodes.
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Gorky
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I agree about season 6A. I was really happy with that three-week run--with "The Duh-Vinci Code," "Lethal Inspection," and "The Late Philip J. Fry"--that not only got me giddy enough to enable me to sit through the less accomplished "That Darn Katz!" and "A Clockwork Origin," but also got me feeling better about the season in general. Then "The Prisoner of Benda" came along and completely blew me away, so that was also a good thing. If this season follows a similar pattern, that would be fine by me.
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Gorky
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I personally liked both "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" and "Attack of the Killer App," but I know I'm pretty much alone there. Ditto with my appreciation for "Neutopia" and "Benderama." At any rate, though, I agree that season 6B has been getting consistently better ("Law and Oracle" was probably the best episode since "The Mutants Are Revolting," or maybe even "The Prisoner of Benda"), and I don't see why the trend shouldn't continue. I'm really hoping "The Silence of the Clamps" exceeds my expectations, because it's honestly the only hurdle remaining this season, in my eyes.
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Aki
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I personally liked both "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" and "Attack of the Killer App," but I know I'm pretty much alone there. Ditto with my appreciation for "Neutopia" and "Benderama." When "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" first aired, I pretty much loved it, just because it was the first episode (together with "Rebirth") for so long. When I watched it again and thought more about it, I started getting annoyed by some things, but I grew to appreciate it still. Now it's below average for me, but I wouldn't call it a terrible episode. I loved "Attack of the Killer App" from the beginning as well (more than "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela"), and I still though, maybe just because I didn't get the Susan Boyle joke (I had never heard of her). Now, it's about average. Both "Neutopia" and "Benderama" are about average as way, "Benderama" a tad above. So I don't think you're all alone on this.
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SonicPanther
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I'm probably in the minority, but I thought 6A was consistent from the start. The only episodes that I didn't really like were That Darn Katz and The Duh-Vinci Code, but even those were more mediocre than bad. As for 6B, it's too early for me to say. I didn't like Neutopia or Benderama much, but these past two episodes have been two of the stronger ones of the new run. I have high expectations for the rest of the season, perhaps higher than the last. Of course having higher expectations is probably just going to leave me disappointed...
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Tachyon
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When That Darn Katz first aired I thought it was shallow and unfunny, probably in the bottom 3-4. However, upon rewatching it a few times it has grown on me a lot and I now think it's OK.
Benderama didn't impress me very much but it's possible that it'll also grow on me over time.
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Aki
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Not all episodes grow on me, just the majority. Some of the worst episodes (worst by Futurama standards, still not bad in general) seemed much better at first, before I started looking in to it and realized how they fail in continuity and timing.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
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Well I can see why some characters would go on deliveries.
Amy = She's young and the same age as Fry/Leela (roughly), and would probably be the most interested in visiting other worlds. She also seems to be the only other character besides Leela who knows how to pilot the ship properly. Also she's a mechanic who would be able to fix the ship if something went wrong or it needed maintainence over a long trip, and being a physicist, seeing other worlds would probably be good for her research. Maybe less so now that she's a doctor, and not a student anymore. As well as being able to fix the ship, she'd also be able to help repair Bender if he needed it. She probably shouldn't go too much so she doesn't upset the status quo, and she is the professor's assistant. Still I think she and the Professor really are the only ones having any business joining the crew, for the reasons I mentioned. She certainly has more excuse coming on trips then Zoidberg does.
Zoidberg = Well he is woefully incompetent, but unless Amy and the Professor are inventing something, he'd probably be needed more in space then in the building. He is a doctor after all, and they trust him with their lives... for some reason.
Hermes = He's a paperwork desk jockey. No excuse.
The Professor: He'd go for the same reasons Amy would, pretty much. So I think really, I would say him and Amy have the most reasons to go into space.
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