More thoughts on Season 6 - SPOILERS!

[Reply #80 on:]

But overall... S6 was great, S7 will hopefully be better.

Season 6 isn't finished yet, there's another 13 episodes to go. If you mean broadcast season, season 7 has already been.

Yeah, Broadcast season 7 was this, but of course I meant the next batch of episodes (prod. season 6, broadcast season 8).

I'd say that "The Mutants Are Revolting", "The Prisoner of Benda", "The Late Philip J. Fry" and "Lrreconciliable Ndndifferences" are my fave episodes this season."
"All the Presidents' Heads" my most anticipated episode for the next season.

[Reply #81 on:]

In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela: Quite below Average. This is probably my least favorite of the season, although it wasn't completely unsalvageable. It had some ok jokes, I loved the Zapp Brannigan TV show style dreams.

Attack of the Killer App: This one is definitely way below average. I thought the episode was somewhat decent until the big Leela reveal. Really really stupid.

I'm with you. I've rewatched The Late Philip J. Fry to the point where I can sing the song. On the other hand, the eyePhone episode had me wanting to vomit and almost ready to swear off the new season. I was terrified we'd turn into Family Guy in Space.

I do have to say that I miss that Futurama used to be mostly 2D. The 3D scenes feel a little gimmicky to me when they're used so much, like the show has lost a little bit of its charm. It works well when used appropriately, though, like in The Sting.

[Reply #82 on:]

In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela: Quite below Average. This is probably my least favorite of the season, although it wasn't completely unsalvageable. It had some ok jokes, I loved the Zapp Brannigan TV show style dreams.

Attack of the Killer App: This one is definitely way below average. I thought the episode was somewhat decent until the big Leela reveal. Really really stupid.

I'm with you. I've rewatched The Late Philip J. Fry to the point where I can sing the song. On the other hand, the eyePhone episode had me wanting to vomit and almost ready to swear off the new season. I was terrified we'd turn into Family Guy in Space.

Finally, somebody who agrees. Marry me, lemily. I don't care if you're a man, woman, or freakishly intelligent racoon. Come away to my moon fortress and sit around agreeing with me all day!

[Reply #83 on:]

i'm sorry, but prop infinity is unbearable to watch. one thing that irks me beyond belief is having fry, leela, amy, and zoidberg all in the dummy. that was the final nail in the coffin for me.

[Reply #84 on:]

i'm sorry, but prop infinity is unbearable to watch. one thing that irks me beyond belief is having fry, leela, amy, and zoidberg all in the dummy. that was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Yeah, I would actually say that Mike Rowe has done more bad than good things.
That whole "camp"-thing was pretty boring.

[Reply #85 on:]

In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela: Quite below Average. This is probably my least favorite of the season, although it wasn't completely unsalvageable. It had some ok jokes, I loved the Zapp Brannigan TV show style dreams.

Attack of the Killer App: This one is definitely way below average. I thought the episode was somewhat decent until the big Leela reveal. Really really stupid.

I'm with you. I've rewatched The Late Philip J. Fry to the point where I can sing the song. On the other hand, the eyePhone episode had me wanting to vomit and almost ready to swear off the new season. I was terrified we'd turn into Family Guy in Space.

Finally, somebody who agrees. Marry me, lemily. I don't care if you're a man, woman, or freakishly intelligent racoon. Come away to my moon fortress and sit around agreeing with me all day!

reciprocated.

I am freakishly intelligent, a raccoon, and a woman. One of those is true. One of them is half-true.

[Reply #86 on:]

I do have to say that I miss that Futurama used to be mostly 2D. The 3D scenes feel a little gimmicky to me when they're used so much, like the show has lost a little bit of its charm. It works well when used appropriately, though, like in The Sting.

I take issue with this.

Futurama is mostly 2D. How is there any more 3D animation in the new season than there was in the original series (including Space Pilot 3000)?

[Reply #87 on:]

I do have to say that I miss that Futurama used to be mostly 2D. The 3D scenes feel a little gimmicky to me when they're used so much, like the show has lost a little bit of its charm. It works well when used appropriately, though, like in The Sting.

I take issue with this.

Futurama is mostly 2D. How is there any more 3D animation in the new season than there was in the original series (including Space Pilot 3000)?

Sorry, I should have said "almost completely 2D." Someone mentioned that the crowd scenes now including 3D. Unless I'm mistaken (which I definitely could be), that's new. In general, also, the animation just seems more polished. It's prettier, sure, but I do think it's lost a little charm. I can't put my finger on what it is.

In any case, I thought the new season was good.

[Reply #88 on:]

Futurama has always featured loads of 3D. That was one of the gimmicks of the show when it started. Hell, there's an absolute load of 3D in the opening sequence.

There's no more now than there was in the first season.

[Reply #89 on:]

I guess I'm mistaken. Sorry!

I'm definitely not mistaken about the animation being different, though. There's something quaintly grainy about the old episodes. The newer episodes are much crisper. It could just be that all animated shows now have crisper quality than a few years ago. Even Disney animation is crisper than it used to be.

Clearly I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to animation. All I can say for sure is that the animation of the new season feels different in a subtle way.

[Reply #90 on:]

That's not 3D, it's HD.

[Reply #91 on:]

That's not 3D, it's HD.

I also (thought I) meant 3D, as in scenes like the opening sequence or the scenes in The Sting. I was just plain mistaken, not confused about terms.

[Reply #92 on:]

The 3D does seem to be better integrated with the 2D in the newer episodes, whatever else might be true regarding 2D/3D/HD

Now to wait for TVs and cartoons in n^x dimensions!

[Reply #93 on:]

I'm not sure what type of television you are watching on, but if its an LCD or plasma, that can have an effect too.  Watching the older eps on a LCD looks like crap IMO - I'd rather watch those on a tube, but the new eps look amazing in 16x9 high resolution on an LCD.  Also, in regards to the animation "feeling" different, I suppose you could chalk that up to the animators simply getting better at animating the show with experience.  Also, they have access to new animation technologies in computers that they didn't have ten years ago.  They can't (and shouldn't) use all of them to their fullest extent in order to keep the show looking consistent, but it may be affecting it in a subtle way.

[Reply #94 on:]

I'm not sure what type of television you are watching on, but if its an LCD or plasma, that can have an effect too.  Watching the older eps on a LCD looks like crap IMO - I'd rather watch those on a tube, but the new eps look amazing in 16x9 high resolution on an LCD.  Also, in regards to the animation "feeling" different, I suppose you could chalk that up to the animators simply getting better at animating the show with experience.  Also, they have access to new animation technologies in computers that they didn't have ten years ago.  They can't (and shouldn't) use all of them to their fullest extent in order to keep the show looking consistent, but it may be affecting it in a subtle way.

I have an old TV. I'm not sure what type, but not an HD TV. Do you know what kind of computer tricks they have now that they didn't have when the show started? I think that's what I'm noticing. There's a smoothness to the new episodes that I think makes them seem less hand-drawn. I like animation that's great quality but looks like a human hand actually did the drawing. Not sure if that makes sense.

[Reply #95 on:]

I think I know what lemily33 is talking about. Everyone is saying how there is an equal amount of 3d in both runs, fine, but to me the 3d is more noticeable in the new one. Which isn't necessarily bad, it's just more easily sets itself apart from the rest of the 2d scenes. Like the hoardes of people in Attack of the Killer App. When they used 3d in the older run it seemed harder to differentiate, even the writers found themselves asking many times in the commentary if something was "2d or 3d". And like people already mentioned before, you can probably chalk that up to more advanced techniques and such

[Reply #96 on:]

Thanks, futurefreak. Glad to know I'm not crazy... mostly.

[Reply #97 on:]

We're all a lil crazy in different ways, which is good, it makes us unique...so long as it's in a healthy amount...hehe

[Reply #98 on:]

We're all a lil crazy in different ways, which is good, it makes us unique...so long as it's in a healthy amount...hehe

Yes... healthy...  *sneaks away*

[Reply #99 on:]

I watched The Prisoner of Benda again on my video tapes.  (Yes, I still use a VCR, gotta save money in these tough times).   What I was wondering was, did they get the whole body switching idea from a Flintstones episode?  I remember when I was little, I saw a Flinstones episodes where they all switched bodies.  Don't remember it to the full detail, but I remember when Fred and Dino switched bodies Wilma was crying that she was married to a dinosaur. 

Did the writers get this body switching idea from The Flintstones? 

[Reply #100 on:]

How did you record on videotape? Do you have cable? I have basic TV and once the switch was made to Digital I lost all VCR recording capability.

[Reply #101 on:]

The whole body-switching concept is a cliche of film and TV, it's nothing new. Almost every cartoon series has done it as well as countless films such as Freaky Friday. I very much doubt they got it from that episode of The Flintstones -I imagine it was more a case of "we haven't done an episode where they switch minds yet".

[Reply #102 on:]

You would have to be some kind of romo not to have laughed at Prop Infinity.

Romophobe alert!

[Reply #103 on:]

You would have to be some kind of romo not to have laughed at Prop Infinity.

Romophobe alert!

Even though Joe posted that a while ago, I'm then a "romo".

[Reply #104 on:]

Really? That was one of my favorite of the whole season, right with the much underrated Lrrrenconcilable Differences.

[Reply #105 on:]

Really? That was one of my favorite of the whole season, right with the much underrated Lrrrenconcilable Differences.

Lrrrenconcilable Ndndifferences was a really good episode, Prop ∞ was IMO as funny, though just not as good as all other episodes this season.   

[Reply #106 on:]

I agree with futurefreak on Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences, and I think A Clockwork Origin is underrated as well.

[Reply #107 on:]

Hahah I misspelled the name, forgive me! It was late when I typed that.

A Clockwork Origin was awesome too. The only one that dragged for me upon first viewing was The Duh Vinci Code. I still find it funny, but definitely not among my favorites of the season.

[Reply #108 on:]

Odd, I think that was one of my favorites, joke-wise.  Plot wise is dragged a bit, yeah. 

I think I agree with most here that the Holiday Spectacular was crap, and the only reason I'll watch it again is to hear the commentary.  In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela too.  That episode makes me want to puke.

[Reply #109 on:]

I haven't watched the holiday spectacular commentary. That episode was so disappointing, I hope the commentary is better.

[Reply #110 on:]

Re: Underrated episodes,

I find both A Clockwork Origin and The Duh Vinci Code to be very underrated.

[Reply #111 on:]

Season 6 seems unfocused. Groening, Cohen, etc., had a whole plan for the first five seasons; when they were cancelled, one of them remarked something like: "There are characters we haven't even introduced yet." (Such as the Number 9 guy.)

Into the Wild Green Yonder was probably intended to be the end, period. But then all of us "spoiled" Futurama by insisting on it coming back, before they could develop some long-range ideas, and the result is Season 6.

[Reply #112 on:]

I actually liked In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela but I think it would have fared better as a DVD "extra" since the episode itself seems more like a comic book story idea played out on TV. It does not agree with the rest of the series, much like most of Season 6 as Fnord pointed out.

[Reply #113 on:]

Re: Underrated episodes,

I find both A Clockwork Origin and The Duh Vinci Code to be very underrated.

i agree.
the duh vinci code was the episode that gave me hope that the new season would have good episodes.

a clockwork origin was in my top three for the season(tied between tlfjf, tmar, and that.)

[Reply #114 on:]

Clockwork Origin, ironically, gets evolution wrong. It annoys me. But it's not a bad episode.

I much prefer The Late Phillip J. Fry even though the time travel is iffy.

[Reply #115 on:]

It's so melodramatically depressing when they watch the Earth explode. Siiiigh. But it's a great episode

[Reply #116 on:]

Re: Underrated episodes,

I find both A Clockwork Origin and The Duh Vinci Code to be very underrated.

For me, "A Clockwork Origin" isn't the most exciting episode; it interests me in the same way that "Crimes of the Hot" interests me: it deals with a somewhat hot-button issue while also exploring something about a main character (in the former, it's Bender's soft-spot for turtles (or something); in the latter, it's Farnsworth's scientific and theological convictions). That doesn't mean it's terribly funny or rewatchable, but it's certainly not garbage.

"The Duh-Vinci Code", meanwhile, is among my favorites of the season. The Farnsworth/Fry relationship deserved to be examined, and I thought the writers did a decent job of it. Plus, it was refreshing to get away from that let's-include-the-whole-crew-in-every-episode thing that they seemed to be going for this season; in addition to Hermes and Bender in "Lethal Inspection", this was pretty much the only episode where the New Character Pairing felt organic. I could have done without Amy and Nibbler in "That Darn Katz!"--but Farnsworth and Fry? I could dig it.

Oh, and I liked "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela", too...but I've already said a lot about it in its episode thread. I'm too lazy to talk about how much I enjoyed it, damn it!

[Reply #117 on:]

So was there any acknowledgement that the Holiday Spectacular sucked, from the writers?   I was hoping for another AOI, and HS failed miserably.

[Reply #118 on:]

Season 6 seems unfocused. Groening, Cohen, etc., had a whole plan for the first five seasons; when they were cancelled, one of them remarked something like: "There are characters we haven't even introduced yet." (Such as the Number 9 guy.)

Into the Wild Green Yonder was probably intended to be the end, period. But then all of us "spoiled" Futurama by insisting on it coming back, before they could develop some long-range ideas, and the result is Season 6.

They never had some great plan for all of the episodes, they had a few ideas that they wanted to set up and introduce later on. The Number 9 guy was just a remnant of an early scrapped plot that they turned into something else. They still have things they've planned since before the show went on the air to reveal too.

Clockwork Origin, ironically, gets evolution wrong. It annoys me. But it's not a bad episode.

How does it get evolution wrong? Don't say because Farnsworth says mankind evolved from apes because he says we evolved from ancient apes which is, as far as science can tell, true.

[Reply #119 on:]

Season 6 seems unfocused. Groening, Cohen, etc., had a whole plan for the first five seasons; when they were cancelled, one of them remarked something like: "There are characters we haven't even introduced yet." (Such as the Number 9 guy.)

Into the Wild Green Yonder was probably intended to be the end, period. But then all of us "spoiled" Futurama by insisting on it coming back, before they could develop some long-range ideas, and the result is Season 6.

They never had some great plan for all of the episodes, they had a few ideas that they wanted to set up and introduce later on. The Number 9 guy was just a remnant of an early scrapped plot that they turned into something else. They still have things they've planned since before the show went on the air to reveal too.

Clockwork Origin, ironically, gets evolution wrong. It annoys me. But it's not a bad episode.

How does it get evolution wrong? Don't say because Farnsworth says mankind evolved from apes because he says we evolved from ancient apes which is, as far as science can tell, true.

Oh, nothing that obvious! Just that there was no evolutionary pressure on the robots, but they evolved over a short period following the same path as humans. They shouldn't have evolved because evolution requires pressure, and also it doesn't follow any sort of predetermined path, but Farnsworth uses this as evidence of evolution.

Some may like it. It's just a nerdism of mine.