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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Welcome to PEEL Impossible, unfortunately lots of stuff gets cut on C4. Sometimes it can be a good thing though, like some of the more unnecessary scenes between Fry and M Proctor in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back".
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]PaulFSAC[
Professor
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk: Welcome to PEEL Impossible, unfortunately lots of stuff gets cut on C4. Sometimes it can be a good thing though, like some of the more unnecessary scenes between Fry and M Proctor in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back". Not forgetting the almost total anniahlation of "A Flight To Remember", although their best cock-up was from "Love's Labors", when the cut the bit out where Bender mentions using the fork to pull someone's eye out, and then bit later on, they left that reference in, when Bender hands the fork to Leela and winks.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Any swearing gets cut too, you never hear "bastard" on the C4 versions, even Sky sometimes cut that word out. C4 go too far though like cutting "ass" out most of the time, and even "sperm" in "Fry & The Slurm Facotry".
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Tweek
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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I don't know why they don't put it on after the watershed, C4 prides itself on showing films uncut yet mutilates shows like Futurama, if they want the younger audience to watch they could show it twice, once in the morning/early evening and once at night, BBC2 does that with Buffy.
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]PaulFSAC[
Professor
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« Reply #14 on: 04-27-2002 06:12 »
« Last Edit on: 04-27-2002 06:12 »
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk: Any swearing gets cut too. /me chases after C4 execs wielding AstroZombie's claymore. Argh misread Any for Amy, eesch need another coffee and quick. ------------------ Click me! Co-Founder of Cartoons-R-Us. - THE SHOW MUST GO ON!
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^Raven^
Crustacean
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The length of a Bicyclops built for (without ad breaks) is around 22-23 minutes. When C4 showed it the other day, it ran for around 18 minutes. There were humungous cuts. I only know this because I am forced to download them.
I think the only ep that had no cuts was How Hermes Recquistioned His Groove Back. I didnt notice any at least.
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Archie2K
Space Pope
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On teh subject of the Simpsons, Too Hot for TV features Nudity, Firearms, Prostitutes, a bloke dead in a swimming pool (Cartridge Family and The one where Homer and Marge get it on in the golf windmill and run naked thru springfield) and that is a PG rating (anyone can buy it but it may be unsuitable for children). Then the Greatest Hits featured only the word w*nkers and that was given a 12 rating. Sky censored the word wankers because in America they dont know what it means The funniest episodes to watch on C4 were probably Hell is Other Robots because they cut soooo much. They cut the word stoned and jacking on almost every time. They censored Fender jacking on so all you saw was him insert the plug, then a strange jump in time and him taking it out again, and then bizarrely they showed Benders whole electricity trip with the eel etc. The whole thing made hilarious viewing. What I don't understand is why UK channels give such early times to lots of programs which are intended for a 'mature' audience. The Simpsons comes on BBC2 at 6pm, Buffy often comes on at 6pm too. Futurama was on at 8.30am every morning for the past couple of weeks and I videod every single one. Something to look forward to when getting back off college eh! Stuff like Eastenders also features fights and sex and they call each other slags every episode and that is on at 7.30 (or 8.00, cant remember). There doesn't seem to be any sort of watershed any more. Its good though. All TV stations seem to be very reluctant to put any cartoons on after about 8pm because they think because its animated it must be for kids. Friends is on at 9 or 10 and that has about the same level of references and violence as futurama (and the videos both got rated 12).
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Tweek
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Space Pilot 3000 might have escaped uncut as it was first shown after the watershed, actually as I recall it was shown after the only episode of South Park to be given an 18 certificate by the BBFC.
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newDeliveryBoy
Crustacean
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heh, I'd like to see the UK version of the SP episode "Proper Condom Use". I thought it's kinda like, uh... Anyway, it's weird how in Europe everything beginning with news down to media and even the Internet get censored, but all countries have "freedom of speech" in their constitution... eh, I know what a "wanker" is, or is it something else in the UK?
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Tweek
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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I was only refering to that one episode (Space Pilot 3000), which was shown after SP.
Proper Condom Use hasn't been on C4 yet, I think it should be on next week, if they are in the correct order, It is highly unlikely to be cut, just about anything is allowed after 9pm. UK TV is far less heavily censored than US TV.
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newDeliveryBoy
Crustacean
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...US TV is censored?? (I don't really watch TV)
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Tweek
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by newDeliveryBoy: ...US TV is censored?? (I don't really watch TV) I thought there was a list of words that couldn't be used on US network TV, When Reservoir Dogs got its network premier here there was an introductory programme about it and the film's makers seemed pretty amazed that it was getting shown uncut on network TV
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Heliotrope
Crustacean
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I watch Futurama on Skyone and they never seem to cut out anything in the episodes i've seen. Including Mums swearing in "Mothers day"
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Sky One does sometimes cut Futurama, but thankfully not very much at all. Normally if they do cut it, it's usually during the daytime.
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BrainSluggo
Starship Captain
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Raised on a diet of Monty Python, The Young Ones, I Claudius, Fawlty Towers, and so on, I was under the mistaken impression that British Telly was NEVER censored. Gore and titties everywhere! And yet, almost all horror movies were rated "X"...
US network TV is censored as well, of course. A lot of raunchier stuff that appeared in the shows above would never show up on ABC, CBS, NBC (well maybe NBC) or even FOX, but PBS and MTV had no problem with it.
Movies on network TV are edited for gore, nudity and cursing. (I was astonished that ABC ran Armaggedon the other night, but not surprisingly they slashed key shots out of the New York sequence. USA Networks, on the other hand, was chomping at the bit to run Arlington Road--a sensationalistic borefest about domestic terrorists successfully blowing up a law-enforcement building--over and over again.) But cursing is usually edited by substituting a cleaner word for the nasty one--"Forget you!" instead of "F*** you!"--or bleeping the nasty out--rather than cutting the scene completely. (In fact, most studios do the editing themselves now, planned in advance with TV airings in mind. They shoot "clean" sex and violence scenes, and record the actor saying the cleaner word for later substitution.) Too bad C4 can't figure this out...but they seem to be largely operating on the "Cartoons? Why, cartoon are for kiddies!" philosophy...
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payndz
Bending Unit
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US network TV is *heavily* censored, especially for language. Sex and violence seem to be getting through a lot more these days but naughty words - oooooh, the horror! I watched Die Hard on (I think) NBC in the States a few years back, and it was so cut I barely recognised it! Certainly, what C4 in particular (BBC 2 to a lesser extent) gets away with after 9pm would stun US viewers. Even at 11pm or whenever, I can't imagine Letterman letting his guests launch into a tirade of obscenities or doing segments about giant papier-mache cocks like Graham Norton does. Mind you, I can't imagine Letterman coming out with as many flagrantly gay innuendoes as Graham Norton either Unfortunately, before 9pm they're just as prudish as anyone...
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newDeliveryBoy
Crustacean
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Well, apparently there's different definitions of censoring in here. You can't say the f word, the s word and the word that comes before roach (maybe among others?) on network TV, and nudity and violence have to limited to some degree as well (the former a lot, the latter barely at all...) However, shows produced for TV like Futurama or SP are produced in a way they can be shown as they are (like in SP the nasty words get beeped over in a way you still know what was said) so there's no actual censoring necessary. The only "censoring" that's going on is when shows are aired during daytime (which is pretty useless in an ago of VCR's, IMO) or music channels editing out stuff (like the chick puking in that Metallica clip or some guy giving the finger in some other clip I don't remember).
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newDeliveryBoy
Crustacean
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Originally posted by payndz: but naughty words - oooooh, the horror!
remember: horrific deployable violence is O.K. as long as no one says any nasty woids! This is what this war is all about!!
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