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« on: 08-19-2010 21:40 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2010 03:08 by Gopher »
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The old gray mare ain't what she used to be. So we got a new one for this week! Review and discuss the new Futurama episode 'A Prisoner of Benda' in this thread and consider posting a short review on CGEF, too! I'll leave this thread open for the time being, but please don't post before there's something to be said (e.g., before the episode is on).
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Regulator
Crustacean
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The Prisoner of Benda, stop being so awesome.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Outstanding episode and my new second favorite this season. Only TLPJF tops it. The Robo-Hungary thing was a great callback and I loved Scruffy's relationship with the bucket.
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Johnnyboy33
Crustacean
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Truly brilliant episode. I'm gonna watch it again instead of Love's Labours Lost in Space.
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jfroneb1
Crustacean
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Absolutely one of the best episodes this season. I thought the humor was spot on. It had me laughing the whole time. And hermes: "3 decades of the munchies and you beat me to it" Haha. Oh, and when Leela walked out fat... loled.
This was a great episode. Characters seemed all in place and their lines were brilliant. Ken Keeler delivered!
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bend_her
Professor
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I gave this a 10/10 for making my sides hurt laughing! Fry-Zoidberg and Leela-Professor were the best! Kinda reminded me of this. I need to re-watch the episode to get the math behind why you need a minimum of two extra bodies to complete the swap. Scruffy and Bucket-Amy were a hoot! Especially Scruffy's "yeeeup" at the end! Zoidberg-Fry and Emperor-Bucket were ok, I felt more could be made of Zoidberg's cluelessness.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #15 on: 08-20-2010 04:42 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2010 04:44 »
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I'm all for describing the current episodes in terms of previous ones, so let me take a whack at this one: it's like combining all the science-y goodness of "The Farnsworth Parabox" with the vignette-y interconnectedness of "300 Big Boys." In other words: I loved it. A lot of episodes this season have focused on the crew as a whole, and I think this one did it best: it captured the nuances of the characters (Fry and Leela's attraction, Amy's "demonic food-lust", Farnsworth's desire to recapture his youth, Zoidberg's need for some friends), mixing-and-matching them perfectly. Loved the use of Scruffy; his little love story was hilarious.
And I liked what they did with Fry and Leela in this episode. I mean, it was disturbing as all hell, but the message was good (tongue-in-cheek, though, which worked better than some touchy-feely episode about the dynamics of Fry and Leela's love); clearly the writers know that the ship can exist as a subplot (or as subtext, or in some other sub form), so I hope we see more of that at some point in the remaining episodes.
All in all, this was an excellent episode. Definitely in my top three for the season, behind "The Late Philip J. Fry" and (potentially) "Lethal Inspection."
9/10
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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This was my favorite episode of the season. Yes, even more than Late. And here's why:
This episode was funny.
There. That's it. This episode was the perfect blend of sci-fi and humor, and it blended it much better than Late did. Late did have the epic factor going for it but did so at a sacrifice to humor.
And the obvious comparison episode to this are Three Hundred Big Boys and The Farnsworth Parabox, but this episode pulled the 22 Short Films concept better than either of those did. It didn't feel jolted like Farnsworth did and had constant laughs.
Best part of the night was definitely Scruffy's speech. I love that he's so deep.
First viewing, I'm giving this a 10/10. I wasn't expecting to give this such a rating when I first heard the title and concept, but this definitely defied my expectations. Ken Keeler wins again!
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Regulator
Crustacean
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This was my favorite episode of the season. Yes, even more than Late. And here's why:
This episode was funny.
There. That's it. This episode was the perfect blend of sci-fi and humor, and it blended it much better than Late did. Late did have the epic factor going for it but did so at a sacrifice to humor.
You know, I'm watching it again and I'm really inclined to agree. This is the funniest Futurama I've seen in years with a great, clever sci-fi plot. Everything about it was spot on. Now I wish I could take back my vote.
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Regulator
Crustacean
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Have you considered using the "remove vote" button? Or is that a mod-only feature for some reason?
Oh, I see! I've only been around here a little while, guess I didn't notice it.
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bendersfender
Crustacean
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Love the Japanese translator guy's delayed reaction of his arm being cut off. Also liked scruffy's scene and the professor in the circus. Correct me if I'm wrong but I beleve that was Fishy Joe as the Circus leader. just about everything in this episode was good! I find the first act of each episode this season is always been the low point in each episode...
9/10
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Erdrik
Professor
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Awsome. my second favorite of the season, just below TLPJF. Tho in terms of humor I gotta agree its the best of the season. Loads of laugh out loud scenes. Scruffy. Fry in Zoidy gill burp. Fat Leela. Proffesors skinny tummy under the seemingly beer belly shirt. Stove expolsion at Robot Arms. So. Much. Funny!
9/10
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sparkybarky
Liquid Emperor
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I Luh-uh-ved this episode. I must watch it again, as it was so fast-paced and packed with gags, that I can't really give my fullest thoughts. But some of the things that are still making me chuckle is the vacuous look on Amy's face after the bucket robot changed minds with her (but that was really Bender's mind, just in Amy's body--I guess?), Amy/bucket-robot declaring her (its?) love for Scruffy, Fry/Zoidberg doing the grossest and strangest things I've seen Zoidberg do, and Amy/Leela pigging out.
Oh, and I'm just waiting for somebody to post a detailed, diagrammed explanation of the math of how all the minds were properly restored to their rightful bodies. I know that this forum is full of analytical minds. Please, because I'm no good at math (maybe because I thought as the Professor said--I never thought math had a real-world application, so I never paid attention).
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speedracer
Bending Unit
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« Reply #32 on: 08-20-2010 05:23 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2010 07:02 »
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Suppose n persons used the mind swapper and are all scrambled up with themselves. Let's just say n = 5, and let's label the persons such that 2 is in 1's body, 3 is in 2's body, 4 is in 3's body, 5 is in 4's body, and 1 is in 5's body.
Bodies: 1 2 3 4 5 Minds: 2 3 4 5 1
Throw in two extra bodies X and Y:
Bodies: 1 2 3 4 5 X Y Minds: 2 3 4 5 1 X Y
Pick some i less than n, say i = 3. Apply the swaps (X,1), (X,2), up to (X,i).
Bodies: 1 2 3 4 5 X Y Minds: 2 3 4 5 1 X Y
After (X,1):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 3 4 5 1 2 Y
After (X,2):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 2 4 5 1 3 Y
After (X,3):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 2 3 5 1 4 Y
Now apply (Y, i+1), (Y, i+2) up to (Y, n). In our example, we'll be applying (Y,4) and (Y,5):
After (Y,4):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 2 3 Y 1 4 5
After (Y,5):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 2 3 Y 5 4 1
Now apply (X, i+1) (in our case, (X,4)) and apply (Y,1).
After (X, 4):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y X 2 3 4 5 Y 1
After (Y, 1):
1 2 3 4 5 X Y 1 2 3 4 5 Y X
Everything is back to normal, except X and Y have switched. Note that every swap takes place between one of (X,Y) and one of the 5 people (so we don't ever have to worry about how persons 1-5 got their minds swapped), and there are no pairs of bodies that swap twice.
If 1-5 are the only persons who swapped, then you can just swap X and Y now. If, say, persons 6-9 swapped their minds, then do the same thing with them; at the end X and Y will have swapped minds again, so they'll actually be in their right bodies. If you have any number of persons, divide them up into disjoint cycles and apply the procedure once for each cycles; if it's an odd number of cycles X and Y will have to swap at the end.
And in case anyone was wondering, it was implemented correctly in the ending.
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