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Chives

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« on: 08-07-2010 04:02 »

We know he was only a year or so old when Fry met him, because in Bendless Love he states that he was four years old, and that probably took place around 3003-3004. So, if he hadn't traveled through time a *lot*, this would be simple. Ten.

However, we know that in Roswell that Ends Well (again assuming that the episodes happened about in order through the years, this was probably around 3005), his head was left behind in 1947.

Bender's Body- 10 years old
Bender's Head- 1068 years old

And this doesn't even count the huge amounts of artifacts from Bender's Big Score he had to sit around and wait through the ages for.

I don't have the ability to do screengrabs, and a quick google image search didn't find anything, but if we got a snapshot of his treasure trove I'd be pretty curious how many thousands of years old Bender actually is.
vonboy
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« Reply #1 on: 08-07-2010 04:08 »

someone with two much time on their hands could try to look at everyhing that was stolen, look at the year each of them was from, and add it all up.
Chives

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« Reply #2 on: 08-07-2010 04:09 »

someone with two much time on their hands could try to look at everyhing that was stolen, look at the year each of them was from, and add it all up.

Yes, exactly. Or we could just speculate roughly as a group, which would be far easier, shorter, and more fun. At least if anyone else is curious like I am, that is.
Jezzem

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« Reply #3 on: 08-07-2010 04:19 »

Someone with a little less time on their hands (but still too much) might point out that the year in Roswell That Ends Well was actually 3002...
jeepdavetj

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« Reply #4 on: 08-07-2010 04:25 »

He is 27. ( I actually have no clue but he acts that age lol )
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #5 on: 08-07-2010 05:23 »

I would guess somewhere around 252,525 years.
FemJesse

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« Reply #6 on: 08-08-2010 07:08 »
« Last Edit on: 08-08-2010 07:12 »

Easy answer. Bender say's he's 4 years old, what year did that episode take place in? Subtract it from 3010 the "current" year. Add 4 + whatever the answer is.
 
Also his head is roughly the difference in year date of 3002 and the Roswell Incident + X if Roswell that ends well took place in 3002. (I don't know what X is but it would be answer to the first part)

Although if you want to be technical, they are all trillions of years of from the events of "The Late Philip J. Fry"

edited: My math was bad and I feel bad!
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #7 on: 08-08-2010 14:46 »

The Late Philip J. Fry wouldn't make them older, that's not how time-travel works.

And you're completely forgetting about the events of Bender's Big Score which make it impossible to give Bender an exact age.
Svip

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« Reply #8 on: 08-08-2010 15:04 »

Even the Infosphere has a section on it:

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Bender was originally constructed in 2998, making him 1-2 years old when Fry met him in 2999. The events in "Roswell that Ends Well" make his head 1055 years older than the rest of his body. The incident in "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles" does largely not count as an ageing or the opposite, and fans largely regard his age to remain intact. In Bender's Big Score, Bender travels back in time several times, though the amount of times is unknown, the amount of Benders that appear at the end, may suggest at least a couple of thousand times. Given how many of these travels seems to be between 1000 to 5000 years in the past (from about 3007), an educated guess would make him at least a million years old, but probably more. An alternative theory could suggest when the time duplicates explode at the end of the first film, Bender is the same age he was at the end of the original run plus 995 years, as the Bender that went back 995 years in time to kill Fry is presumed to be the orginal and therefore wouldn't expire like the rest of them.
FemJesse

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« Reply #9 on: 08-08-2010 19:31 »
« Last Edit on: 08-08-2010 19:33 »

And you're completely forgetting about the events of Bender's Big Score which make it impossible to give Bender an exact age.

Wrong, all the paradox copy Benders exploded. =D

See above comment for better explanation.
Chives

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« Reply #10 on: 08-08-2010 21:10 »

If we take into consideration the alternate theory, then, his body is just over a thousand and his head is over two thousand. Hm.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #11 on: 08-08-2010 23:53 »

I think Bender is maybe 3 years older than Fry.  I believe he is older than he says he is.  Maybe he just said he was 4 in Bendless Love as a joke. 
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #12 on: 08-09-2010 00:03 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2010 21:41 »

And you're completely forgetting about the events of Bender's Big Score which make it impossible to give Bender an exact age.

Wrong, all the paradox copy Benders exploded. =D

See above comment for better explanation.

I thoroughly disagree with idea that the exploding Benders at the end of BBS can possibly reset the number of years that our Bender has existed (unless we assume that the one that convinced the ones to come out of the limestone cavern also exploded - which is not how the narrative plays out or how the paradox duplicates work). The principle example of this is the Fry/Lars situation. Our Fry, our beloved canon contributing Fry is the one that used the time code to get the fresh pizza and is therefore about an hour older than Lars. Only when Lars didn't use the code an hour later did he become a duplicate. So the actions of the real Fry using the code to go back and change things created a duplicate. Bender convincing the other Benders to stick around created the duplicates, but that Bender is oldest and true Bender.

Am I making sense?

Conclusion: Bender is now ancient and also almost incalculably ancient.
Taco Wiz

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« Reply #13 on: 08-14-2010 06:36 »

^

Agreed. And I wouldn't even use the world "almost".
PumaGirl

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« Reply #14 on: 08-14-2010 19:56 »

What about Hermes age when he was inspector #5? Couldn't it be deduced from that?
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #15 on: 08-15-2010 01:58 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2010 04:06 »

No because as we've said again and again and again, the events of Bender's Big Score make it impossible to figure out.

Edit: I never noticed that I was replied to with the Benders exploding thing. I know someone has already answered that but those Benders were time-travel duplicates. The original Bender still aged thousands of years for each of those Benders that you see at the end. It was a paradox-correcting time-code. If you can't get your head around that, please just listen to the people that can who are telling you that Bender's Big Score makes it impossible to figure his age out.

I feel like The Professor in A Clockwork Origin vs that woman who doesn't understand evolution and doesn't want her children to understand it either.
transgender nerd under canada

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« Reply #16 on: 08-15-2010 03:17 »

:laff: I love how people disregard it though. It's just like the CT/CU debate. People mentally throw out what they disagree with or what makes stuff too hard for them to figure out, so they go with things like "Bender's age is X + 4 + this arbitrary value I pulled out of my ass, or "CU is cooler, therefore CU works better for me".

Honestly. Regardless of what people think, Bender's age is not only impossible to figure out properly, it has been made deliberately impossible. There's maybe going to be an upcoming plot or a throwaway line that reveals something about Bender's age. I wouldn't be surprised if he's older than Humanity, older than Mammals, even. But we won't know unless we get Word-Of-God from the writers.
willsterdude3000

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« Reply #17 on: 08-15-2010 10:19 »

I've just found something in Futurama comics UK #54, that says that Bender is 27,203 years old. Whether that's accurate or not, they do mention BBS in a yellow box in a panel.
PumaGirl

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« Reply #18 on: 08-15-2010 11:00 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2010 11:02 »

No because as we've said again and again and again, the events of Bender's Big Score make it impossible to figure out.

I feel like The Professor in A Clockwork Origin vs that woman who doesn't understand evolution and doesn't want her children to understand it either.

Oh my, yes you are just too smart for me. Guess understanding a comic show is just way beyond me. But I guess I now have an incentive to watch BBS sometime.

Can't you guys just give a normal answer to a question? Not everyone has watched every episode (I don't even have a TV for f's sake) nor spent countless hours thinking about the episodes I have seen. I could get insulting like you and say that maybe it's because I have a life an a career but I don't feel it's useful to go down that route. If my question bores you just ignore it if it insults you report it to a mod. Thanks.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #19 on: 08-15-2010 11:30 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2010 11:31 »

I find it pretty baffling that someone on a Futurama forum hasn't seen every episode. At least not the first 4 seasons and the movies. I don't think you can complain about me presuming that everybody has seen every episode except maybe the most recently aired episodes.

And you don't need to spend countless hours thinking about this one. Bender's Big Score makes it very obvious that you'll never be able to work Bender's full age out before you've even finished watching it.


And regardless of all of that, I definitely presumed that you'd read the thread you were posting on. Because it was made pretty clear by myself and several other people that Bender's age can't be figured out now.
And my comments below the "edit" weren't specifically aimed at you for the record.
PumaGirl

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« Reply #20 on: 08-15-2010 11:50 »

I find it pretty baffling that someone on a Futurama forum hasn't seen every episode. At least not the first 4 seasons and the movies. I don't think you can complain about me presuming that everybody has seen every episode except maybe the most recently aired episodes.
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Yeah I have the box set and the films on DVD and seen them up to the Late Fry, just not all yesterday but more like years ago as far as TOS is concerned. Some of them *horror* just once. In addition, I don't view a post along the lines of 'It can't be because of BBS' as an explanation. But I will watch it again, sometime, so I can form an opinion. And hopefully disagree with everyone as a result :p. For now I have to admit that the post from our British nerd makes the most sense but that's just my 0.02$, so no need to get upset about it, nor about the fact that to me Futurama != religion.

As far as reading is concerned, I tried my best. As far as I understand people don't fully agree on implications of BBS or whatever. 
Svip

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« Reply #21 on: 08-15-2010 14:23 »

Can't you guys just give a normal answer to a question? Not everyone has watched every episode (I don't even have a TV for f's sake) nor spent countless hours thinking about the episodes I have seen. I could get insulting like you and say that maybe it's because I have a life an a career but I don't feel it's useful to go down that route. If my question bores you just ignore it if it insults you report it to a mod. Thanks.

What you want instead?  A simple 'no'?  Because not only as stated above does Bender's Big Score make it impossible to deduce Bender's age, but it is also difficult to tell what age Hermes is during that montage and it would be contradicting with evidence if we deduced something from Hermes' age, as we know it must have taken place in 2998 according to the age Bender provides.
PumaGirl

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« Reply #22 on: 08-15-2010 19:42 »

Mhm let me think, a simple 'no' vs 'you are annoying', yes I think I would prefer that actually ;)
Chives

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« Reply #23 on: 08-15-2010 20:03 »

I've just found something in Futurama comics UK #54, that says that Bender is 27,203 years old. Whether that's accurate or not, they do mention BBS in a yellow box in a panel.

Now see, THIS is something that shouldn't have been passed over. I believe it to be a gross understatement, though, simply by merit that not only were there more than 26 or 27 treasures that he picked up, there were treasures from before the year 2000 (as seen when he robs the Egyptians).

Good find either way.
Taco Wiz

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« Reply #24 on: 08-17-2010 03:46 »

We might get a good idea of how old Bender is if someone observant posted a list of the stolen objects seen in BBS.
Chives

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« Reply #25 on: 08-17-2010 05:11 »

Better yet, if anybody could capture a decent shot of the pan over the stolen relics, right before Nudar erases the code from Bender, we could all collaborate on naming and aging the items.
Taco Wiz

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« Reply #26 on: 08-17-2010 05:14 »

Thank you for reiteraing my post.
benderrulez

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« Reply #27 on: 10-19-2010 20:22 »

Bender is 5 he told it in episode Mother's Day :)
mazda07

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« Reply #28 on: 10-19-2010 20:24 »

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Bender is 5 he told it in episode Mother's Day
Yea. but that was 5 year's ago. they a in 3010 now :)
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #29 on: 10-19-2010 21:42 »

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Bender is 5 he told it in episode Mother's Day
Yea. but that was 5 year's ago. they a in 3010 now :)
Don't forget Lethal Inspection, he was a baby in that, he was a baby in TMLH. He's just somewhat old. :D
Free Hot Meal

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« Reply #30 on: 10-19-2010 22:04 »

guys...stop reviving dead threads for a couple posts...it's getting annoying when searching for the live threads.
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