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I just seen it and thought the ending was adorable. Bender and Hermes make a good team
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Ryder556

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Oh ya I'd also like to point out that when they get to Mexico Bender says
"Last week I was in Italy"
If that were true Fry and Farnsworth shouldn't be in this episode.
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Zoo Station

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I thought the premise was really interesting and I was glad to see Hermes finally get a chance to do something in this season; his pairing with Bender was wonderfully bizarre and it really helped push them in a new direction. There were plenty of funny moments and overall I thought it was solid. I can't wait to watch it again because I know there was a lot that I missed.
8/10
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theepicwinner

Poppler

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Did anyone else notice the "Adobe Photo Shoppe"?
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TheMadCapper

Fluffy
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This was a funny episode, with references to the past but forging onward and providing fresh material as well. I gave it 8 out of 10.
New Futurama is delivering the goods.
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hobbitboy

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« Reply #87 on: 07-23-2010 14:58 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2010 15:04 »
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Did anyone else notice the "Adobe Photo Shoppe"?
Yes (at least one other poster did as well). I also particularly liked "¡Ay! Cantina Turner". When Leela first mentioned that inspectors were bureaucrats I immediately thought it might turn out to be Hermes but I soon forgot about that until the montage/big reveal at the end. I want to know why Bender couldn't have just got a wireless backup unit installed? Hey, TMC's back.
[Edit] Did anyone notice that the letter "B" on the Central Bureaucracy building is McDonald's golden arches turned on it's side? (Hence the "Over 2 billion wating to be served" joke, I suppose.)
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That Don Guy
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I wasn't keen on the whole Bender as a baby thing for continuity's sake but I guess with this and Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles, Bendless Love is just being retconned. Maybe Bender remembered his birth incorrectly I suppose. +1 on that. I noticed another retcon, sort of; while Bender doesn't have a full backup, his personality can be copied (or at least removed) - it was done in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back". As for the song, it was "Baby Love Child" by Pizzicato Five - my mistake; I'm just so used to people asking that question (and I have a feeling this one is going to be asked quite a bit as well, so we all should memorize this answer). The song was "You Are My Little Bird", sung (I think) by Elizabeth Mitchell. -- Don
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DannyJC13

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It was a Pretty sweet episode, Hermes got a good Role for once too. The ending wasn't that much of an 'Awww' ending IMO. Still made me feel Sorry for Bender a little though. And the music choice could have been Slightly better. 7/10
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Tedward

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« Reply #92 on: 07-23-2010 18:10 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2010 18:16 »
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Yep, I’m pleased with the episode; it felt the most like the original series to me and was both funny and charming. I loved the Bender-Hermes pairing and was happy to see Hermes get some attention and development anyway, especially since it seemed like the previous few episodes relegated him to just a few one-liners. I was hoping for a tiny bit more of the Leela-in-charge B-story, but I don’t know if anything more would have been necessary; at any rate, I’m glad that there was that one scene with her hiding the alien message in the first place since just to briefly break from the main story and remind us that things are still going on at Planet Express. Is this one of those instant classic episodes to be later looked back upon with awe? I don’t know…my own first impression would say no, since it wasn’t among the most intensely hilarious episodes of the show and I agree with those who found the ending just a little bit forced (but still touching), but at this point in the season and having only just watched the episode I can’t say how I’ll see the episode later on. I can say that it was enjoyable to watch and I hope that the rest of the season continues to be as good or better. As far as the twist goes, it crossed my mind several times during the episode that Hermes might be Inspector #5, but I didn’t feel certain about it until near the end; I did feel certain that they’d show who it was eventually though, even as some sort of joke at the end or something, since I didn’t think it would be like Futurama to leave the audience with that kind of question. While I was moved by the ending, and I don’t think there has ever been information indicating that Hermes never worked for Mom (she does have a huge company, after all) or lived in Mexico at some point, it still feels kind of…cheap, maybe?...to have a plot twist explained in such a way. But why would it? Couldn’t learning new things about characters’ history and relationships just be called character development? Maybe I’m just feeling this way because the twist reminded me of the Professor’s robosexual relationship one from “Proposition Infinity” of which I was not fond…at least this one couldn’t be considered a retcon (not that the PI one necessarily was) and was handled much better. Yes, the ending montage is in the same spirit as those of “Leela’s Homeworld” and “Jurassic Bark,” but I think the song choice here was a detriment to the montage; I honestly found it a bit annoying. Maybe I’ll get used to it in the future, though…and while I admit that the song during the “Leela’s Homeworld Montage” is kind of strange too, it seems like that one works whereas this one didn’t do it for me (however, I don’t know if that’s just the nostalgia talking). Oh ya I'd also like to point out that when they get to Mexico Bender says
"Last week I was in Italy"
If that were true Fry and Farnsworth shouldn't be in this episode.
Maybe Bender went back to steal things he didn't get to the first time.
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Frisco17

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Or him and Leela stayed there until Fry and the Professor got back.
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Nixorbo

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By far the best episode of the season. Loved the HHRHGB callbacks. Sappy ending was overly sappy.
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Gorky

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« Reply #96 on: 07-23-2010 18:54 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2010 18:56 »
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While I was moved by the ending, and I don’t think there has ever been information indicating that Hermes never worked for Mom (she does have a huge company, after all) or lived in Mexico at some point, it still feels kind of…cheap, maybe?...to have a plot twist explained in such a way. But why would it? Couldn’t learning new things about characters’ history and relationships just be called character development? Maybe I’m just feeling this way because the twist reminded me of the Professor’s robosexual relationship one from “Proposition Infinity” of which I was not fond…at least this one couldn’t be considered a retcon (not that the PI one necessarily was) and was handled much better.
Yeah, I thought Hermes having worked for Mom was a bit too easy, plot-wise, but at least they dropped hints about it in this episode (he knew Mom wouldn't want a defective robot roaming the streets, tarnishing her good name), and there's nothing in the rest of the series to directly contradict it (things like the details surrounding Bender's birth, and his age (didn't he say he was, like, three years old in one episode?) have always been fairly elastic, so that part of it doesn't really bother me). If I want to fan wank--which I guess I do, even though it's not really necessary--I'd say that Hermes probably started working for Mom shortly after he stopped limboing in the wake of that tragic "Your backbone can't take it!" moment that we saw in the flashback in "A Flight to Remember." The Professor having a random robot lover for roughly forty years of his life almost certainly contradicts what we know of his past--particularly his past with Mom--and was introduced in "Proposition Infinity" because otherwise we wouldn't have had all that, uh, brilliant social commentary about gay marriage and homophobic, hypocritical pundits. The reveal with Hermes at the end of this episode was much more emotionally satisfying and much less of a stretch in my mind, which is why it didn't bother me at all (whereas the Professor thing in PI annoyed the hell out of me).
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Nurdbot

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This episode is my personal favourite so far in this series.
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« Reply #98 on: 07-23-2010 21:20 »
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I was in Canada when it aired (and still am) so I had to download this one from iTunes. And about halfway in, I forgot that I was watching a Season 6 (or 7) episode. It was like the good ol' days. It felt like it was trying to be a Leela's Homeworld episode, however, but that made me like it even more.
At the beginning, Fry's voice sounded a bit off to me, but it got better as the episode progressed (despite how little Fry there was in this one) and Fry's design looked off at the beginning too. Maybe I'm just nitpicking way to much and just want to find something to not like in the new episodes, but it was just a bit different. (Still loved the episode, though.)
Also, for once I like Hermes... he shows a lot more character in this. I hope next week is good, if not, better!
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rockafeller
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At the beginning, Fry's voice sounded a bit off to me, but it got better as the episode progressed (despite how little Fry there was in this one) and Fry's design looked off at the beginning too. Maybe I'm just nitpicking way to much and just want to find something to not like in the new episodes, but it was just a bit different. (Still loved the episode, though.)
I thought that too!! His voice sounded more of regular Billy West for a bit!! Then it got better, but still, very weird...
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Gorky

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Just rewatched this episode, and the sign that Hermes and Bender crash into when they get to Mexico--"Welcome to Mexico: Silver Medal Winner, Mexican-American War"--got a legitimate guffaw from me. I'm not usually one to notice background gags like that, but that sign (in addition to the Adobe Photo Shoppe) was hysterical.
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maymeow

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At the beginning, Fry's voice sounded a bit off to me, but it got better as the episode progressed (despite how little Fry there was in this one) and Fry's design looked off at the beginning too. Maybe I'm just nitpicking way to much and just want to find something to not like in the new episodes, but it was just a bit different. (Still loved the episode, though.)
I thought that too!! His voice sounded more of regular Billy West for a bit!! Then it got better, but still, very weird...
Me too! I really liked this episode! I liked it so much that I had to say it here, which I haven't done previously. Great jokes, good laughs. I hope they continue on the same way 
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That Don Guy
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Something else I just thought about: if Bender's backup drive is supposed to be inside him, then couldn't he be "killed" anyway by something that could destroy his entire body, drive and all? (For example, in "Love and Rocket", when the ship's computer tried to fly the ship, Bender included, into a quasar that would crush everyone into a quantum singularity.)
-- Don
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Svip

Administrator
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He clearly explains how it works. His backup unit is basically a device that transmits an image of his current being at a reasonable rate -- wirelessly -- to some remote location (I guess Mom's factory). What he lacks is a unit to update his being at this remote location. I'd assume he is reserved in the files anyway, but has never been updated.
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ClamplikeDevice

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« Reply #106 on: 07-23-2010 23:10 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2010 23:13 »
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+1 on that. I noticed another retcon, sort of; while Bender doesn't have a full backup, his personality can be copied (or at least removed) - it was done in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back".
The floppy disk backup mechanism must produce a compiled low-level assembly code backup that would only run properly on that specific hardware, whereas the wireless backup unit must decompile a cross-platform compatible version that can be downloaded into a newer replacement robot. Also, from the other episode, it appears that once Bender's personality has been transferred to the floppy disk, it doesn't exist in him anymore. There must be a cryptograpic mechanism that prevents multiple working copies from existing simultaneously.
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The headless body of Agnew

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I thought it ended too quickly other than that thought it was a good episode and good character development for Hermes
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Svip

Administrator
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btw, when Nutmeg says 'series', she means 'season'.
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Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
 
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* Future Shock throws things. Yes, I agree, even though I'd read how the ending was, it surprised me how they did it, and I really liked it. So they showed Hermes opening the file then Hermes on the computer, but they should have shown the computer part first, to make you realize that was how he got on.
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Stone

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gahahahahaha
"thats what you get for calling tech support" just awesome
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