Thoughts on 6ACV04 - Proposition Infinity - SPOILERS

[Reply #160 on:]

I grabbed a screen grab of the Nixon poster and color corrected it to compensate for the low light. Great for smartphone wallpapers.

[Reply #161 on:]

that was an amazing episode. futurama is back in its prime.

[Reply #162 on:]

I find it hard to know what to make of this episode. On one had I really liked a lot of the jokes, and the fact it made the future interesting again with little things like the drinks with thunderstorms over them amongst other stuff. What I didn't like was how forced the Amy/Kif break-up seemed at the beginning, and also how they just casually got back together again at the end. The robosexual storyline was good, and made for some interesting scenes, but I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

The episode also suffered with lack of Fry and Leela, although I do like Amy so it's not so bad. Roberto is always welcome too, as is Fatbot, but the stuff with Preacherbot and the robots making out with fake humans on the grass was a real drag, and the clown stuff with Hermes, no, just no.

6/10 overall for the humour, and for the fact that it’s quite memorable, but too many flaws to be any higher....

[Reply #163 on:]

After seeing this for a second time, my opinion of it hasn't changed. I thought I'd appreciate the plot better. No. Still, high scores on the humor factor.

[Reply #164 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

[Reply #165 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

[Reply #166 on:]

Whoa, Prop took a big turn for the worse on CGEF over night. It was in the mid 70s, now it's at 66%. This was the last review before mine:

The only good bit of this episode: Hermes clown thing. The rest: untter rubish. I may not watch anymore as this epidode has shown that the 'new' Futurama is not like it used to be and really pointless. Nothing even happened in this episode, it went back to the start at the end and really made no sense what so ever.

I love that the best thing about the "epidode", in his opinion, is one of the consensus worst things on here. And of course the ending is where we were back at the beginning! This isn't the damned movies anymore, this is episodic format!

It really amazes me that the episode's stock fell so much overnight, especially considering the sentiment around here seems to be that it's been the best of the new episodes.


Oh, and I rewatched it last night. Very much so funnier the second time around. Lots of nice background gags ("Got Protoplasm?" ad on the hoverbus being one I can remember off the top of my head).

[Reply #167 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

Farnsworth is a massive hypocrite throughout the original run of Futurama. That's one of the things I love about him. His strong moral stance on any issue is based on what he feels like at the time, and is subject to change pretty much on a whim.

Oh, and I rewatched it last night. Very much so funnier the second time around. Lots of nice background gags ("Got Protoplasm?" ad on the hoverbus being one I can remember off the top of my head).

The fact that the background gags are clearly and obviously back is one of the things I most enjoyed. I mean, Rebirth was an amazing return, but it could have been improved by a couple more background gags. The flavour of the show has always been subtly improved by them. In fact, now that I think about it, most of the crappier episodes are light on background and incidental gags, or have them all occuring around one theme, like the appling in AOTKA.

[Reply #168 on:]

The average viewer (or less-than-average viewer) is why we can't have nice things. Look at Toy Story 3 on Rotten Tomatoes. Because of two lousy reviewers, it's not at 100%. And their complaints were centered around them comparing it to the original two. Sound familiar?

I'm not saying these episodes have been perfect, but they haven't been bottom 10 all time episodes. No way that App or Prop deserve to be below 70%, especially Prop.

Doing a cream-of-the-crop set-up would only help these episodes from receiving the brash treatment they've had so far from the quitting fans. The half-term governors of the Futurama community, if you will; they decide to leave before they should, and then continue to complain and complain later.

And I'm flattered you regard me in such high esteem there, Svip. I'm just a lowly ole fan.


... who so happens to be the reigning Most Valuable PEELer...



... and works at a college radio station and probably should get on trying to interview DXC already...


EDIT: And, in the about 45 minutes since I posted my review on PEEL, somebody came along and gave it another 1/5:

Everybody is out of character and doing ridiculous things.

The Space Pope would be sad.

Like a virgin gave 1 point

Thanks for the examples, pal.

[Reply #169 on:]

I genuinely do consider Attack of the Killer App to be the worst episode of all time, or at least to tie as worst episode of all time along with The Cryonic Woman. And I've watched it 3 times now, this isn't some gut-instinct, hyperbole-driven reaction I'm having to it, I just really dislike it for reasons I've listed.
But on the other hand, I really liked Proposition Infinity and Rebirth so you know I'm not just jumping on the hate new episodes bandwagon.

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

Well, then the Professor is a hypocrite in Proposition Infinity for campaigning against robosexual marriage... oh wait, that's the plot. How does this contradict a past episode when Proposition Infinity ITSELF establishes that the Professor is being a hypocrite and acknowledges it?

[Reply #170 on:]

The only good bit of this episode: Hermes clown thing. The rest: untter rubish. I may not watch anymore as this epidode has shown that the 'new' Futurama is not like it used to be and really pointless. Nothing even happened in this episode, it went back to the start at the end and really made no sense what so ever.

I love that the best thing about the "epidode", in his opinion, is one of the consensus worst things on here. And of course the ending is where we were back at the beginning! This isn't the damned movies anymore, this is episodic format!...

Yes, it is very episodic in nature and I loved it.  For me, the clown-itis gag was the only thing in the episode that I didn't like.  I don't know if my expectations have been calibrated correctly by the previous episodes this season or if this episode itself was really good, but I enjoyed it tremendously, laughing out loud several times.  Maybe it was because it did not involve Fry/Leela at all and I didn't feel compelled to worry over the direction of their relationship.

Solid 8/10.

[Reply #171 on:]

The Preacherbot was the best part of the episode IMO. Especially during the wresting phase.

[Reply #172 on:]

Hello Deary's:

The background jokes were great.
I liked the Vulcan neck pinch, now if I can just
practice enough to use it on my kids!

MuhHaHAHaHA


The cameo by Sulu was a treat, but he said "OH MY!!!!"
Didn't he deny ever saying "Oh MY"?

HaHAHAhA!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOW DO NOT FORGET TO REWIND THE VCR TAPE AFTER  YOU RE-WATCH THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yours Truly ,
Momm



PS
Memory Pop Quiz:
What were the names of the 2 bi-race men from the
"Star Trek episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" ?
(as pictured on page 4)

{No looking at the internet/Google for help}

[Reply #173 on:]

I didn't see Sulu in this episode, where?!

[Reply #174 on:]

George Takei's head officiates at the debate.

[Reply #175 on:]

George Takei's head officiates at the debate.

I was making a point that George Takei != Sulu.

[Reply #176 on:]

Name one other role he's had since, where he wasn't playing himself.

[Reply #177 on:]

Well I gave it 9/10. Maybe more like 8.5/10 but never mind. Simply thoroughly enjoyed it. Certainly I think the funniest episode this season so far, certainly in terms of laugh-out-loud moments. I didn't feel that the flat-lining jokes detracted from my overall viewing pleasure, I seriously just let all the social-commentary fly over my head and I thought the ending was brilliantly done. Excellent stuff

[Reply #178 on:]

Best episode of the season so far!  Bender was dynamite!  I loved how he vandalized the city with tiles and landed in jail with Roberto!  It was cool how Amy fell for him and started dating Bender because she was attracted to bad boys which eventually made Kiff fed up.  The tornado scene was the best part.  Great to see some old characters make cameo appearences: Donbot, Fammy, Fatbot, and Amy's parents.  The big protest scene  to get robosexual marriage legalized was beyond excellent!  Futurama just keeps getting better and better!  Can't wait for next week's episode!  "Let's Go Already!"  5/5! 

[Reply #179 on:]

My first viewing, I gotta say that so much was going on at one time I couldn't completely comprehend the episode. I know I didn't get to catch half of the jokes, cameos, etc. because I was watching for the basic plot. I might catch it again next week and see if I like it better. For me the whole plotline was rushed and the circusitis had so much more potential to be a running gag that was actually funny versus what seemed to me to be a random throw-in kinda thing. I can understand Amy's breaking up with Kif because he's a wimp (hell I'd have thrown him out years ago if he was my boyfriend) but the fact that Amy went into a full-blown relationship with Bender that included a proposed marriage just sat with me wrong. I'm not saying Amy wouldn't go with Bender because we know she's wild and such but to dive into a committed relationship so suddenly seemed wonky. The episode had many great points of dialouge and had many memorable one-liners I can see myself quoting in the future and it held the jokes the old run had in it that were sorely missed in the earlier episodes this season. Overall this was a decent episode and I would like to think they're getting into the swing of things just like in their heyday.

One theory as to why the episodes feel so random or "off" as it is at some points is the fact they can get away with a lot more on CC than they ever could on FOX. They're doing odd things for the sake of testing the waters. But enough of my corny reasoning.

[Reply #180 on:]

i'm happy to see that futurama is getting back on track. for me, killer app was the worst episode of all time. it made me think that futurama was going to change completely, but this episode put that fear to rest.

now id like to see some space adventures!

[Reply #181 on:]

Is anyone else bothered by some of the synthesized music? Overall the score is fine, but since the budget is lower, the music just isn't as good as it was in the original run. For example the saxophone during the calendar scene sounded awful, that alone killed the joke. They couldn't get a real saxophone?

The music during Bender's vandalism however was great.

[Reply #182 on:]

The music is one of the cut backs of the show.  But that's what you get for running on cable.  I do think Christopher Tyng is doing an amazing job despite the drawbacks.

Edit:  Note to Gorky, i_c_weiner and totalnerduk; check your PM inboxes!

[Reply #183 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

Well, then the Professor is a hypocrite in Proposition Infinity for campaigning against robosexual marriage... oh wait, that's the plot. How does this contradict a past episode when Proposition Infinity ITSELF establishes that the Professor is being a hypocrite and acknowledges it?

Another reason why the episode isn’t entirely convincing. Tnuk is right, the Professor is a hypocrite, but in this case it bothered me to the point of it slightly hindering my enjoyment of the episode. It’s because 'Proposition Infinity' took place after 'I Dated A Robot', and the Professors anecdote recalled events from before 'I Dated A Robot' that in this instance the hypocrisy bothers me more. The Professor campaigning against robosexual marriage makes sense in the context of the events which took place in 'I Dated A Robot’, it's only when his past relationship with the robot comes to light that it messes with ‘I Dated A Robot’, and yes this episode itself, but had it just been this episode that was contradicted then it wouldn’t personally have bothered me so much because I didn’t think it was as good anyway...

[Reply #184 on:]

Some of the random things I found funny:
* I thought the pictures in Kiffs and Amy's lounge were both cute and funny (the one with Kiff and Amy's parent)
* Benders possessions in the jail
* Calculon's agent behind the glass in the restaurant
* The storm cloud cocktails (loved them!)
* The Planet Express ship's basement!
* The Professors weather collection
* Love Morbo, thats it.
"DOOOOOOOOOOMED!!"

[Reply #185 on:]

#5 by thrustingthor     
   Fantastic episode, the ending alone made it great.

thrustingthor gave 5 points
   
   09.07.2010

#6 by Bubble Gum     
   Best of the Season. Started a bit slow but picked up and was funny to the end. Bender was in great form........5/5

Bubble Gum gave 5 points

#9 by josh     
   my fav of this season

josh gave 5 points
   
   09.07.2010





and you call these reviews. honestly, some of you sound like a dictatorship from the 1400's that is scared of losing control.

imo, the system works fine. however, i would also like a site that does have reviews that go into detail. i, for one, would certainly spend the time reviewing.

[Reply #186 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

Well, then the Professor is a hypocrite in Proposition Infinity for campaigning against robosexual marriage... oh wait, that's the plot. How does this contradict a past episode when Proposition Infinity ITSELF establishes that the Professor is being a hypocrite and acknowledges it?

Another reason why the episode isn’t entirely convincing. Tnuk is right, the Professor is a hypocrite, but in this case it bothered me to the point of it slightly hindering my enjoyment of the episode. It’s because 'Proposition Infinity' took place after 'I Dated A Robot', and the Professors anecdote recalled events from before 'I Dated A Robot' that in this instance the hypocrisy bothers me more. The Professor campaigning against robosexual marriage makes sense in the context of the events which took place in 'I Dated A Robot’, it's only when his past relationship with the robot comes to light that it messes with ‘I Dated A Robot’, and yes this episode itself, but had it just been this episode that was contradicted then it wouldn’t personally have bothered me so much because I didn’t think it was as good anyway...

I still don't understand your problem. Chronilogically, the Professor has a relationship with a robot that ends badly and causes him to strongly oppose robosexual relationships as a coping mechanism. Then the events of 'I Dated a Robot' happen and the Professor is against Fry and his Lucy Liu-bot because he's now against robosexuals. Then Amy and Bender start a relationship, and he's still not happy. Bender and Amy begin to campaign for robosexual marriage to be legalised, which causes the Professor to campaign for it to remain illegal. During the debate, the Professor realises why he hates robosexual relations and decides he's alright with it.
It might not be convincing how he just changes his mind, but in terms of character consistency, there isn't a problem at all.
You seem to think that the Professor should have been fine with Fry and Lucy Liu in 'I Dated a Robot' because he'd had a robosexual relationship of his own, but if he was fine with it then, he'd have been fine with Bender and Amy in 'Proposition Infinity'.

Season One is the only season without a single weak episode. Since towards the end of Season 2, the crappiness factor appears to have crept into two or three episodes a season.

Sadly, people just don't take this into account, or don't watch Original Flavour Futurama enough.

I'd agree with that, I think season 1 is by far the most consistent season, but at the same time, it doesn't contain a single incredible episode in my opinion. I'd take some bad episodes, some good episodes and some incredible episodes over nonstop good episodes, but that's just me.


Also, I like the sound of this new ratings site. If there's any chance that a lowly 'Bending Unit' could get involved, I'd love to.

[Reply #187 on:]

I didn't like how the professor told that story of when he was with that girl, which was ok until the twist that it was a robot. That was just ridiculous and took a huge dump on ‘I Dated A Robot’. Also I found myself asking why we hadn't ever heard about this long dating part of the professors life before. I thought it was Mom who was his love in the earlier science years...

I don't see how it contradicts I Dated a Robot, the Professor was never on board with Fry dating a Lucy Liu bot.
And it's been established that him and Mom have always been on-again-off-again.

It contradicts 'I Dated A Robot' because the professor is a hypocrite for telling Fry not to date a robot in 'I Dated A Robot' when he did so himself for many years...

Well, then the Professor is a hypocrite in Proposition Infinity for campaigning against robosexual marriage... oh wait, that's the plot. How does this contradict a past episode when Proposition Infinity ITSELF establishes that the Professor is being a hypocrite and acknowledges it?

Another reason why the episode isn’t entirely convincing. Tnuk is right, the Professor is a hypocrite, but in this case it bothered me to the point of it slightly hindering my enjoyment of the episode. It’s because 'Proposition Infinity' took place after 'I Dated A Robot', and the Professors anecdote recalled events from before 'I Dated A Robot' that in this instance the hypocrisy bothers me more. The Professor campaigning against robosexual marriage makes sense in the context of the events which took place in 'I Dated A Robot’, it's only when his past relationship with the robot comes to light that it messes with ‘I Dated A Robot’, and yes this episode itself, but had it just been this episode that was contradicted then it wouldn’t personally have bothered me so much because I didn’t think it was as good anyway...

I still don't understand your problem. Chronilogically, the Professor has a relationship with a robot that ends badly and causes him to strongly oppose robosexual relationships as a coping mechanism. Then the events of 'I Dated a Robot' happen and the Professor is against Fry and his Lucy Liu-bot because he's now against robosexuals. Then Amy and Bender start a relationship, and he's still not happy. Bender and Amy begin to campaign for robosexual marriage to be legalised, which causes the Professor to campaign for it to remain illegal. During the debate, the Professor realises why he hates robosexual relations and decides he's alright with it.
It might not be convincing how he just changes his mind, but in terms of character consistency, there isn't a problem at all.
You seem to think that the Professor should have been fine with Fry and Lucy Liu in 'I Dated a Robot' because he'd had a robosexual relationship of his own, but if he was fine with it then, he'd have been fine with Bender and Amy in 'Proposition Infinity'.

That's all well and good, but I don't like the fact there was no mention of the Professors robosexual relationship in 'I Dated A Robot'. That episode would have been the ideal place to bring it up, just a one liner would have done it, but instead it was all too conveniently brought to our attention here making it feel like a cheap plot twist to me...

[Reply #188 on:]

That's all well and good, but I don't like the fact there was no mention of the Professors robosexual relationship in 'I Dated A Robot'. That episode would have been the ideal place to bring it up, just a one liner would have done it, but instead it was all too conveniently brought to our attention here making it feel like a cheap plot twist to me...

He was still denying it back then. It would take a real event for him to accept and confess it, and the debating of such a political change was perfect for that.

[Reply #189 on:]

How about we all just forget about numbers? They don't mean anything except to muddy the meaning of the text (review). The only thing that should be tracked is the number of reviews an episode has. Otherwise, there should be no numbers. You wanna know how people felt about a particular episode? Read their reviews.

[Reply #190 on:]

"You wouldn't know perversion if it put clamps on your testicles!"

Quality.  Who doesn't like jokes about clamps?

I'm greasin' up my whozits!

One comment to those that have said episodes in the new series are overly sexualized.  I don't know if you've listened to any of the commentaries, but there are a ton of filthy jokes the writers have wanted to use but were forced by the censors to remove or tone down.  The only reason for the change is that they have more creative freedom on Comedy Central than they did on Fox.

[Reply #191 on:]

Hey Kids:

You missed the "Will Riker Island" prison...
HaHaHA!!!

I also am wondering when/what William Shatner owed Takei(Sulu) money?
I must of been napping....

!!!!!!!!!!!AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP THIS LATE?????? GO TO BED!!!!!!!!!!!
HahAHaHa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yours Truly,
Momm



PS
OK fuzzy memories

Pop Quiz question resubmitted:
What were the names of the bi-racial men on "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" episode?

{Google is your friend}

[Reply #192 on:]

Bele and Locai.

I think.

I may need to get my nerd gland checked.

[Reply #193 on:]

I give it 9/10. The best episode of this season. Hilarious! Hyper-Chicken's cameo was funny. But I thought that joke where Hermes has Circus-itus was Random and un-funny in general.

It was a little off, but I still laughed at "kids of all ages". Eh..?

Amy's parents returning was great and they're as funny as ever! And the return of the tranny-bot was great! The part where the robots have sex with the dummies (or possibly sex dolls?) is drawn out a bit and eventually gets disturbing, until Bender begins missing Amy and when Amy, Fry and Leela are in there and Bender finds it disgusting, when Zoidberg says, "Maybe we should have waited in the ship?"

I loved that scene, mostly because of the delivery on Preacherbot's line "Now cuddle, cuddle wit'cha demons...". What can I say? It was priceless.

I love the ring having a tag that read, "Exhibit A." Then Professor gives a funny line, and then an esurance commercial with a terrible actress. But anyway, back to the episode: Eew, unnecessary joke that involves Zoidberg getting cut open. Funnier during "Roswell That Ends Well," to be honest. "If you hate intolerance and being punched in the face by me, then you should sign Proposition Infinity," is one of my favorite Bender lines ever! No for infinity commercial was hilarious.

I honestly don't remember the Zoidberg getting cut open joke, could someone clue me in? I agree with everything else here though.

"We flipped a coin to see who would start, and Bender stole it. So he will go first."

"I haven't heard such an eloquent speech, since Bill Shatner explained why he couldn't pay me back."

EDIT: Okay, I found the part with Zoidberg. It was unnecessary, but it didn't really bother me.

Also, I forgot about one line in particular that really made me laugh. "Alright, I'm tired of pussy foot-cupping around."

[Reply #194 on:]

hopes.......deleted.

[Reply #195 on:]

I don't mind the circusitis joke. Most Hermes jokes have in fact been quite off, he's often the Grampa of Futurama, sitting with whenever they need a joke delivered. But the Circusitis would actually have been better if it were introduced in the cold opening and then had some call-backs throughout an episode. Not a b-plot, but a few mentions or sight gags. Or maybe he's  still sick next episode?

hopes.......deleted.

That made me laugh out loud all three times I watched the episode so far

[Reply #196 on:]

Or maybe he's  still sick next episode?

This is a sitcom, things should be pretty normal at each episode's end.

[Reply #197 on:]

Or maybe he's  still sick next episode?

This is a sitcom, things should be pretty normal at each episode's end.

Yeah, but to be a sitcom Futurama breaks that rule quite often. Also, I was kidding about the circusitis. I really should start using smileys for sarcasm...

[Reply #198 on:]

I finally watched this episode for the 2nd time and I must say that I like this episode. There were many scenes which made me laugh out loud.

I couldn't stop laughing at the crew shooting and flying everywhere during the tornado scene

[Reply #199 on:]

Fry, Bender, and Zoidberg were golden in that scene. The direction was fantastic. Bender's "Wait, I'm not in position!" and Fry's "SHE SAID GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" were great.