Thoughts on Season 6 - SPOILERS

[Reply #640 on:]

1. The Prisoner of Benda
2. The Late Phillip J. Fry
3. The Mutants Are Revolting
4. Rebirth
5. The Duh-Vinci Code
6. Attack of the Killer App
7. That Darn Katz!
8. Lethal Inspection
9. A Clockwork Origin
10. In A-Gadda-Da-Leela
11. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
12. Proposition Infinity

Yes PEELified, I thought Attack of the Killer Apps was better than Lethal Inspection. Despite that none of these episodes were god-awful. I wanted to do a list similar to Mongo there with a rating of Outstanding to Terrible, but really after #4, the rest of the episodes simply range between Above Average or Average or Below Average to me. In my opinion none of these episodes were that bad. Many of the reviews I've read about the lesser episodes didn't faze me. There are things that I too thought were ridiculous (Susan the Boil for example) but I still liked the episode. The episodes I thought were overall better than Beast with A Billion Backs and Bender's Game by a longshot. Anyway as I said before I rate this season a high B = 85-87%, and I'm excited for more episodes.

TOTP-The World Needs More Conan O'Brien Being An Alligator-Dance.

[Reply #641 on:]

I don't think I'll ever quite understand people's distaste for The Beast with a Billion Backs and Bender's Game. To me, they're both 8/10 'episodes'. Certainly better than average.

[Reply #642 on:]

Bender's Game is a big piece of garbage, but I agree with you about Beast with a Billion Backs.

As for the season...

GREAT
1. The Late Philip J. Fry
2. The Prisoner of Benda
3. The Mutants Are Revolting

REALLY GOOD
4. Rebirth
5. The Duh-Vinci Code

GOOD
6. A Clockwork Origin
7. Lethal Inspection
8. Proposition Infinity

OKAY
9. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
10. That Darn Katz!

BAD
11. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
12. Attack of the Killer App

[Reply #643 on:]

I don't think I'll ever quite understand people's distaste for The Beast with a Billion Backs and Bender's Game. To me, they're both 8/10 'episodes'. Certainly better than average.

Here's my take: "The Beast With a Billion Backs" is funny, but it so completely disregarded the events of Bender's Big Score (and in fact seemed counter-intuitive to what had been done with Fry and Leela). People couldn't overlook that, so they couldn't enjoy the movie for what it was: a decent B-movie parody with a lot of raunchy humor. Which, if you're me, is entertaining stuff. In other words, TBWABB is, in a way, a victim of where it falls on the production order. Had it come before (or father away from) "Bender's Big Score", I think people would have responded to it differently.

"Bender's Game", meanwhile, is awful on its own merits.

[Reply #644 on:]

I don't see how the somewhat iffy continuity between Fry and Leela with The Beast with a Billion Backs is any worse than a lot of the episodes of season 6, but meh.

Bender's Game doesn't work as a movie all too well, but its only problems come down to structure and when you take into account how season 5 was produced, I don't think you can really complain about structure.
At any rate, all of the non-fantasy stuff in Bender's Game is pure gold, and the fantasy element is at very least an interesting idea.

[Reply #645 on:]

My biggest problem with "Bender's Game" is that the fantasy stuff strikes me as uninspired and a little trite (though I'm not big into fantasy anyway, so my unfamiliarity probably impedes my enjoyment of the movie in that respect), and a lot of the Bender's-crazy stuff seems recycled from "Insane in the Mainframe." I like the Professor/Igner thing, and even Leela's anger management stuff, but overall I just find BG really boring, and nowhere near as laugh-out-loud funny as "The Beast With a Billion Backs" (and as far as that one's continuity goes: I think Fry getting with another lady after having discovered mere days (in the show's timeline) earlier that he was Lars is a bigger breach of characterization and continuity than the occasional throwaway line from season six).

Anyway, here are my season rankings:

12. That Darn Katz!
11. Attack of the Killer App
10. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
9. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
8. A Clockwork Origin
7. Proposition Infinity
6. Rebirth
5. The Duh-Vinci Code
4. The Mutants Are Revolting
3. Lethal Inspection
2. The Late Philip J. Fry
1. The Prisoner of Benda

It should be noted that my top four episodes are of comparable quality, and may or may not be somewhat interchangeable. Also, none of this season's episodes rated below a 6/10 for me, so overall it was really good run. I'll have to rewatch the season as a whole to really form a final, concrete opinion, though.

[Reply #646 on:]

This season started a little slow but from episodes 6-12 it felt like good old Futurama.
I have enjoyed all the last six episodes, except for the cat one, so Im very pleased with Futurama's comeback.

Favorite Episodes

1.The Prisoner of Benda
2. The Late Philip J Fry
3. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
4. The Mutants Are Revolting
5. A Clockwork Origin
6. Lethal Inspection

All the others not to fond of but still happy that six of the episodes were winners.
also I hope susan boil never ever shows up again because that was painful to watch.
Looking forward to season 7 now

[Reply #647 on:]

Looking forward to season 7 now

You mean the rest of season 6?

[Reply #648 on:]

1. The Prisoner of Benda
2. The Late Philip J. Fry
3. The Mutants are Revolting
4. Lethal Inspection
5. Rebirth
6. That Darn Katz
7. Attack of the Killer App
8. The Duh Vinci Code
9. Lrrreconciliable Ndndifferences
10. A Clockwork Origin
11. Inna Gadda da Leela
12. Proposition Infinity

I have a feeling that this list is going to change a bit once I go back and rewatch some of the episodes from the first half of the season, but I know that my top four are TPoF, TLPJF, TMaR, and LI.  

[Reply #649 on:]

1. The Late Phillip J. Fry
2.Rebirth
3. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
4. Proposition Infinity
5.The Mutants Are Revolting
6.That Darn Katz!,Lethal Inspection and A Clockwork Origin
7.In A-Gadda-Da-Leela
8.Attack of the Killer App
 


The Prisoner of Benda was a bucket of meh for me, it was like there. I don't know what to think of it, really.

The Duh-Vinci Code had to be the worst Futurama episode ever. It didn't feel like Futurama at all! I never want to see it again!

Pretty weak season all in all I thought.

[Reply #650 on:]

Yes yes, nobody cares what you of all people thinks.

[Reply #651 on:]

Yes, yes, we're going to post our opinions anyway.

I'm not sure where to put this new one yet... but it wasn't anywhere near as funny as The Late Philip J. Fry or Lethal Inspection.

[Reply #652 on:]

Those are the ones you count as really funny?

[Reply #653 on:]

My favorites:

5.  The Prisoner of Benda
4.  A Clockwork Origin
3.  The Late Philip J. Fry
2.  Proposition Infinity
1.  Lethal Inspection



Worst ones:

Attack of the Killer App
Lrreconciliable Ndndifferences

[Reply #654 on:]

Okay, time for a round-up of how the votes on each episode of this season have gone. I simply added up the votes for each episode poll for each score from 1 to 10, multiplied by that score, divided by the total number of votes for that episode poll.  (Keep in mind that most of the episode polls have been somewhat degraded in value by several people giving that episode a 1 -- sometimes even before the episode aired!)

9.286 The Late Philip J Fry (133 votes)
8.990 The Prisoner of Benda (104 votes)
8.767 The Mutants Are Revolting (60 votes)
8.444 Lethal Inspection (117 votes)
7.899 Rebirth (99 votes)
7.495 The Duh-Vinci Code (105 votes)
7.452 Proposition Infinity (124 votes)
7.324 A Clockwork Origin (105 votes)
7.196 That Darn Katz! (107 votes)
7.083 Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences (84 votes)
6.891 Attack of the Killer App (119 votes)
6.460 In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela (87 votes)

[Reply #655 on:]

Nice. Seems like a logical list, except maybe for A Clockwork Origin and Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences.

[Reply #656 on:]

1. The Late Philip J Fry
2. A Clockwork Origin
3. The Mutants Are Revolting
4. The Duh-Vinci Code
5. The Prisoner Of Bender
6. Lethal Inspection
7. Lrreconcilable Ndndifferences
8. Rebirth
9. That Darn Katz

the last 3 were just plain awful, imo.

[Reply #657 on:]

Looking at Mongo's results, and then the vote results for each episode, I'm stunned to see that Proposition Infinity is higher than A Clockwork Origin. Sure enough, looking at the votes, PI got a bunch of high ratings, with 35 9's and 31 8's.

Yet looking at the retrospective rankings in this thread, most people seem to rank ACO above PI. Were the large number of 9's and 8's for PI just because most people voted on PI when it first aired, and it seemed like such an improvement after IAGDL and AOTKA?

[Reply #658 on:]

Were the large number of 9's and 8's for PI just because most people voted on PI when it first aired, and it seemed like such an improvement after IAGDL and AOTKA?

probably.  I know I ranked a couple of the early episodes as sevens and eights that I wouldn't have ranked that high had they aired now.   

[Reply #659 on:]

I expect so.  Proposition Infinity did look good in comparison to In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela and Attack of the Killer App, so it was given a good rating at the time.  It might not have looked so good compared to the episodes that followed, especially Lethal Inspection and The Late Philip J Fry, but that was not known at the time.  On the other hand, by the time A Clockwork Origin came out, those two episodes WERE out, and so it was being directly compared to those two episodes, looking poorer than it would have otherwise.

[Reply #660 on:]

You guys talk as if Proposition Infinity wasn't awesome, when it clearly was.

[Reply #661 on:]

You guys talk as if Proposition Infinity wasn't awesome, when it clearly was.

i hated the bender/amy storyline. maybe ill appreciate it in the future, but as of now, it felt to betray the futurama universe.

[Reply #662 on:]

Agreed. The Bender/Amy thing seemed strange. It could have been good (seeing as they're both pretty promiscuous) if it wasn't for Kif. Seriously, they just ended and started again just like that? It's one of the most prominent storylines of the series, you can't just stop it for one episode because you don't have another human Bender can hump.

[Reply #663 on:]

Proposition Infinity was far from awesome. It had an incredibly contrived plot with pretty much everybody acting out of character left and right. And whilst it was funny, it was far from Futurama's funniest.

Not a bad episode by any means, but one of the season's weaker offerings.

[Reply #664 on:]

What actually surprised me about Proposition Infinity the most was that David X. Cohen kept highlighting it as one of his favourite episodes this season.  I am still not sure why.

[Reply #665 on:]

Yeah, I remember him being really excited for that episode in interviews and the like. But he also heralded "The Late Philip J. Fry" as one of the best episodes they ever produced (which it was), so I guess he just has a really elastic sense of taste.

[Reply #666 on:]

An episode can sometimes be a favorite of the crew because it was fun to write. Once you've been involved with the process, it's hard to face the result objectively. And honestly, PI is hilarious at times. The inconsistency just brings it down.

[Reply #667 on:]

Pretty great run if you ask me. It started off a bit shaky but once it got its footing, it was just as consistent as any season before it.

[Reply #668 on:]

Bender decided to care about something once it was relevant to him, the second he realized he didn't want it, he dropped it. Amy and Kif hit a rough patch and like in many relationships when things start having problems she thought she wanted something else. The Professor is old and senile as always.

All of those things seem completely reasonable and in character to me.

[Reply #669 on:]

Aki, yes - I didn't think many of the eps this season were all that funny, but I thought most of them had good bits. The two I named just had more good bits than others (the only thing I didn't like about Lethal Inspection was the over-sappy part at the end). I actually thought a lot of Those Darn Katz! was funny too, as well as the beginning of Attack of the Killer App (up until Chunks the goat and Susan Boil) so I dunno if you should trust my taste.

[Reply #670 on:]

I think you have to have two scales for "funniest" and "best". The Late Philip J. Fry is hardly the funniest episode of this season, but you'd be hard-pressed to find somebody who doesn't consider it at least in the Top 3 of the season. On the flip side, Katz and the first two acts of App had a lot of humor, but Katz is overall mediocre and App definitely in the lower quarter of the season.

[Reply #671 on:]

My thought exactly. Late Philip to me is the best of the season, possibly the series altogether, but it's hardly the funniest. The Prisoner of Benda is the second best of the season, and that's also the funniest one.

[Reply #672 on:]

(the only thing I didn't like about Lethal Inspection was the over-sappy part at the end).

That was the best thing about the episode and I'd say that Lethal Inspection is the least funny episode of the season so far (after In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela and Attack of the Killer App). I liked the episode, but it was very lacking in the humour department.

[Reply #673 on:]

Indeed. Lethal Inspection isn't all that funny (though it has its moments just like any other episode), but it's one of the best this season to me, alongside The Late Philip J. Fry, The Mutants Are Revolting and The Prisoner of Benda, all of which are instant classics.

[Reply #674 on:]

Yes yes, nobody cares what you of all people thinks.

What's that supposed to mean!?

1. The Prisoner of Benda
2. The Late Philip J. Fry
3. The Mutants are Revolting
4. Lethal Inspection
5. Rebirth
6. That Darn Katz
7. Attack of the Killer App
8. The Duh Vinci Code
9. Lrrreconciliable Ndndifferences
10. A Clockwork Origin
11. Inna Gadda da Leela
12. Proposition Infinity

I have a feeling that this list is going to change a bit once I go back and rewatch some of the episodes from the first half of the season, but I know that my top four are TPoF, TLPJF, TMaR, and LI. 

What does TPoF stand for?

[Reply #675 on:]

Yes yes, nobody cares what you of all people thinks.

What's that supposed to mean!?

It means Svip's on his period, give him some space!

[Reply #676 on:]

Here's my list for the latest season:

1st - The Prisoner Of Benda - Possibly my favourite all time Futurama ep. So many great moments.

2nd - The Late Philip J. Fry - A close second, which was bound to rank high for the cleverly done plot, and just all-in-all greatness.

3rd - A Clockwork Origin - I loved this one. Professor-heavy, great plot.

4th - That Darn Katz! - The most underrated of the series. Again, many great moments, and nice to have an Amy-centred ep.

5th - The Duh-Vinci Code - Strongest of the first half of the series for me. Again, Professor-heavy which is always a good thing for me.

6th - Proposition Infinity - An ok episode with some decent moments.

7th - Lethal Inspection - Good story, all-rounder for me, although I prefer lots of the others.

8th - Rebirth - Solid series opener. Not a great deal happened, but it tied up some loose-ends and had a nice twist.

9th - The Mutants Are Revolting - Ok episode. I was expecting a bit more though. Just didn't find it as funny as other eps, although it was a good story with some nice nostalgic callbacks.

10th - In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela - Not great, but not as bad as people make out. The first half of the ep was really funny. Latter half let it down slightly.

11th - Lrreconcilable Ndndifferences - Well it had it's moments, but for me a Lrr-centred episode doesn't make the cut, I like Lrr as a supporting character, but found this episode boring.

12th - Attack Of The Killer App - Just tripe.

Overall, a GREAT series of Futurama. I would say I liked 10/12 of them, so that aint bad at all. Hungry for more now!

[Reply #677 on:]

No order, just plain commenting.

6ACV01 - Rebirth
Seeing as it's so much of a recap and reintroduction I have troubles judging it as an episode, but it was solid, funny and had an emotional core and a good twist.

6ACV02 - In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
One of the weaker of the series, but still decent. Why couldn't they have split it up into two stories?

6ACV03 - Attack of the Killer App
Although hilarious at some times, at other times it fell back to repeating itself. I seem to be the only one loving the ending.

6ACV04 - Proposition Infinity
Although the Amy-Bender part was incredibly out of character (at least for Amy), this is a really funny one, and it pokes great fun of homophobia.

6ACV05 - The Duh-Vinci Code
I loved it when it came out, mainly because it so beats the earlier episodes of the season, but it's now around average. I do love the sideplots with Fry annoyed with being stupid and his relationship with the Professor in this one, it's incredibly well done and the ending is quite epic.

6ACV06 - Lethal Inspection
Although ignoring some continuity (no great harm done, "I never said I'm a drama queen" at least acknowledges it all), this is a funny and by the end quite emotional one, and it easily comes up to measure about the other emotional eps of the series, even if it's not as strong as The Sting or Jurassic Bark. The Hermes-Bender pairing is odd but works.

6ACV07 - The Late Philip J. Fry
The best of the season and possibly the best of the series. Once again time travel is pulled off brilliantly, and all aspects of the story works so well, with incredible suspense, great animations and music, and a heartfelt Fry-Leela plot.

6ACV08 - That Darn Katz!
This one has its hilarious moments and has its action, but is overall around average. Amy and Nibbler is another really good pairing, and I love the continuity of finally letting Amy have her degree, as well as save the day.

6ACV09 - A Clockwork Origin
This is one of the most underrated of the season. Professor-heavy episodes always work, and throwing in science has always worked for the Futurama theme. Actionpacked and hilarious.

6ACV10 - The Prisoner of Benda
As I know lots of people agree about, this one is an incredible episode and possibly the best of the series. It has everything a good Futurama ep needs, namely humour, action and science as well as numerous hilarious characters. It is incredibly well done, with all characters moving by the fine motions we'll learned to love throughout the years.

6ACV11 - Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences
Lrrr is a great secondary character, and I was worried seeing him as a lead, but it worked just fine. An average episode with some special moments, including the War of the Worlds and the Comic-Con.

6ACV12 - The Mutants Are Revolting
As both an episode and a broadcast season finale, this one works phenomenally. More flesh into the Futurama grande story is always nice, and it had some great callbacks. I also happen to love the mutants' every appearance.

Overall, this was a very surprising broadcast season. I had half expected Futurama to return as a good show but nowhere near the original run, but I was dead wrong. Save a few episodes, this season is just as good if not better than any other, and hell, most seasons of the original run had a few really weak eps. This one also brings two new candidates to the best episode ever, namely The Late Philip J. Fry and The Prisoner of Benda.

[Reply #678 on:]

My updated season 6 rankings this week:

1. The Late Philip J. Fry
2. The Prisoner Of Benda
3. Lethal Inspection
4. The Mutants Are Revolting
5. Rebirth
6. A Clockwork Origin
7. The Duh-Vinci Code
8. Proposition Infinity
9. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
10. Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences   
11. That Darn Katz!
12. Attack Of The Killer App

So, in quick summary for me on a 10/10 scoring system:

9.0-10.0 = 4 episodes
8.5-8.9 = 4 episodes
8.0-8.4 = 2 episodes
7.0-7.9 = 2 episodes

In conclusion, only two episodes have been "below-par" for me this season.

[Reply #679 on:]

I don't get why people liked A Clockwork Origin so much other than the fact there were "Robo Dinosaurs".  Ok, so what?  It didn't do so much for me.  And after Act 1 was sooo slow....all that time on the "missing^100th link", the rest of the episode flew by...they really didn't spend much show in the different time periods other than to show the robo dinos.  Yes, it had some good jokes and it was not a bad episode (as some of the others were), but I can not get all gooey over it as some people are.

As Lrrr would say, "I give it a C+....good, but not great."