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Svip
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The shortening of the intro was probably due to distribution and not the actual episode. I recommend we making further decisions on this when the episodes have actually aired. Maybe even scenes could have been lost and other things.
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i_c_weiner
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Exactly. As I said before in some other thread (stupid thousands of threads for the same thing), the real problem with IDGDL was that there was no strong B-plot and the A-plot was only two characters talking back and forth.
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Gorky
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But I still think Zapp and Leela are fully capable of carrying an episode where all they really do is talk back and forth. This plot just didn't do them justice/wasn't well-executed. I'm convinced that all the Eden stuff would have been better if Leela's supposed delirium was more convincingly conveyed, and if they had tried to tie her fear that earth would be annihilated with something more concrete than "everyone is gone; oh well, let's bone" (something more emotionally grounded, meatier: "I'll never see Fry/my parents/Nibbler again"). I mean, I know it was supposed to be an Adam and Eve allegory (if you can call it that), and more a gag-driven episode than an emotional one--but it could have benefited from something more specific for Leela to miss. It seemed like her primary concern was how nice Zapp was and the possibility that they would have to, y'know, mate. Leela quasi-falling for Zapp--and Zapp being this chivalrous version of himself--messed up the dynamic and made the whole thing seem forced.
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i_c_weiner
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Any mistake this season will hence forth be known as "pulling a Premish".
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i_c_weiner
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But IDGDL just feels more natural!
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IAGDL it is.
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Mixer808
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I am a HUGE fan of Futurama, in fact I've probably watched every episode at least 10 times so when I heard that it was coming back I was extremely excited. For some reason after watching tonight premier episodes I was kind of disappointing. I think the show has lost something. Its almost like what happened to the Simpsons. The first couple seasons were great but now the new seasons are all crap. Futurama has drifted from its roots. What happened to the delivery company? and making extremely dangerous and ridiculous delivery's to crazy planets? They even made current pop culture references in the show. The Ipod hermes was wearing, the reference to CSI Miami.. come on man, this isn't the simpsons, its supposed to take place in the year 3000 . They really tried to jam pack every scene with under par jokes, almost taking away from the main plot of the episode. Bender shoving a male input plug into the satellite dishes computer? What happened to the subtlety of him just randomly pushing buttons making sparks fly everywhere? Its funnier because you know hes doing something wrong/lewd but its not as bluntly suggesting sex eh maybe I'm just tired and delirious. Maybe they lost some of the original writers and brought in some amateurs. The things that made the show great where the subtleties of the characters personalities coming into play. Maybe as the season goes on the episodes will get better. I certainly hope so. Anyone agree? or convince me otherwise??
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i_c_weiner
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The CSI Miami joke seems to play off of Zapp's referencing of Duran Duran in ITWGY. Perhaps he likes David Caruso's style.
And Hermes' iPod joke is classic Futurama: the misdirection joke. It's like Farnsworth's "Let us never relive that" in Rebirth and a similar moment in The Sting when Hermes didn't want to know what the bees did.
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i_c_weiner
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Exactly. Let's wait until Carolyn Premish gets another episode, then we can officially say that Futurama's hit the shitter.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #68 on: 06-25-2010 11:28 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2010 11:29 »
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I agree about being disappointed about the second episode -- IMO it's the worst episode of Futurama ever -- but "Rebirth" was all right. As I've explained already, it was creatively constrained by being the transitional episode between the movies and the return of the TV series, which is why it had the self-referential gags at the beginning, and the theme of the episode was "Rebirth". The self-referential gags weren't nearly as clever or funny as the ones in "Bender's Big Score", but they weren't terrible either.
I rated "Rebirth" as a 6/10 in the poll thread, because I felt it was below average for an episode of Futurama. After watching it multiple times and with other people, I've realized that my opinion might be biased by my admittedly impossibly high expectations. Regardless, opinions are personally subjective, and my initial impressions of this episode are the most relavent, do I'm sticking with my rating.
The same for IDGDL. It's a terrible episode, based on a terrible premise, and terribly written. Leela and Zapp naked on a Garden of Eden Planet is just a lame idea from the beginning. The episode would've been much better if it had focused on the V-GINY Deathsphere and it "censoring" indecent planets by destroying them; the episode could've tackled the issue of censorship, but it basically ignored it in favour of a contrived plot to get Leela and Zapp to have sex again -- which I don't think many fans were clamouring for anyway.
I'm not saying that Futurama is shit now or anything as ludicrously reactionary like that. I'm merely saying that I didn't like IDGDL and I hope the next episode is much, much better; and that the show can quickly regain the momentum and the free-spirited humour and craziness of the fourth season.
I can't wait until next week's episode!
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i_c_weiner
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I know you're not saying it's not shit now, and I agree, but if you think IDGDL is the worst ever, you really need to rewatch Where the Buggalo Roam. Now.
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i_c_weiner
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Still, point remains that there are far worse than IDGDL.
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Tweek
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I hope you like later episodes more.
I liked the two new episodes, they may not have been the best Futurama ever but they were far from the worst.
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