i_c_weiner
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IDGDL was shorter than a normal episode by one or two minutes.
I would say that Rebirth was a pretty good episode to return with. IDGDL was mediocre, surprising since it was Zapp-centric. I felt Rebirth's jokes were funnier and more in the original series' vein than IDGDL. I actually laughed out loud multiple times for Rebirth, not so much for the latter.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #84 on: 06-23-2010 06:28 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 06:33 »
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I agree that IDGDL reminded me of Amazon Women In the Mood and Spanish Fry -- unfortunately, it wasn't as good as either of them.
I didn't like Zapp's glare-induced confessions/explanations of how he tricked Leela. I mean, most of it seemed apparent and probably didn't need explanation. I assumed that they were on Earth all along -- because how would they crash on an "Eden" planet in our solar system? The only thing that I missed was how Zapp used the holo-projector to create the illusion of Earth being destroyed; admittedly, I forgot about the ship's holographic targetting gadget.
As for Leela acting out of character, it was explained in the episode that she was delirious from dehydration -- and the mentral distress of believing the Earth was destroyed and she and Zapp were the only survivors -- which is why she nearly fell for Zapp's deception. I don't know if it was intentional or not, to not spoil the surprise, but I don't think that either the animation nor Katey Sagal's voice acting conveyed Leela's delirium as the events were happening; she looked and sounded fine.
In summation, I thought that IDGDL was an under-whelming episode, like "Rebirth". The show hasn't returned on top of its game. I hope that these first two episodes are just the writers trying to get back into their groove, like they were in the third and fourth seasons, when they weren't restricting or over-thinking episodes, and just did whatever was funny. I'm confident that Futurama will soon be back on it's game.
Returning to this thread's topic -- which most of us have apparently forgotten -- I'm planning to re-schedule my Futurama party to Thursday, and play these two downloaded episodes for my friends at the same time they will air on CC in the 'States. That will be the closest we can get to watching them as they're meant to be seen.
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i_c_weiner
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I agree that IDGDL reminded me of Amazon Women In the Mood and Spanish Fry -- unfortunately, it wasn't as good as either of them.
I didn't like Zapp's glare-induced confessions/explanations of how he tricked Leela. I mean, most of it seemed apparent and probably didn't need explanation. I assumed that they were on Earth all along -- because how would they crash on an "Eden" planet in our solar system? The only thing that I missed was how Zapp used the holo-projector to create the illusion of Earth being destroyed; admittedly, I forgot about the ship's holographic targetting gadget. I didn't see any of those things coming. They could've been out of the solar system; Nixon's diagram showed their mission to be pretty far out. (And that's pretty far out, you're pretty far out!) And I wouldn't put IDGDL in the company of those two episodes. There wasn't vulgarness with the Zapp/Leela dynamic as much as there was with Amy. And it wasn't in the class quality-wise to those two.
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Gorky
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« Reply #86 on: 06-23-2010 06:54 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 06:58 »
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Here be talk of the new episodes (or "Rebirth", at least, since it's the only episode I've seen)... I kind of agree with wbb, about the feel of "Rebirth"--it didn't feel like an original episode of the series, but some middle-ground between the original 72 episodes and the four movies. Part of it may have been the pacing: there were a lot of quiet moments in this episode, and they reminded me faintly (and not flatteringly) of some of the Mopey Fry stuff from "The Beast With a Billion Backs." Even the more emotional episodes of the series ("The Sting", "Time Keeps on Slipping") didn't seem as, well, overwhelmingly dramatic as "Rebirth" did.
And part of the difference may have been the jokes. I mean, I thought the episode was funny, but there were some gags in "Rebirth"--or maybe I should say types of gags--that may not have been as prevalent during the original run. And it's subtle stuff, to me--it's line-readings. Fry saying "Coma...sad..." in response to Leela's indignation is funny, but it's such a strange joke for Futurama--it's almost, I don't know, too slow. I'm sure this makes no sense, but I think it's kind of what wbb is talking about.
Oh, and I also think a lot of the difference was probably based in how overt the whole Fry and Leela thing was, and in how much it dominated the episode.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #87 on: 06-23-2010 08:06 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 08:28 »
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I didn't see any of those things coming. They could've been out of the solar system; Nixon's diagram showed their mission to be pretty far out. (And that's pretty far out, you're pretty far out!) I checked, and yes, Nixon's diagram showed the V-GINY was out of the solar system. But when Leela and Zapp took off, I didn't get the impression that they travelled very far. Sure, there were cuts between scenes that could've been time cuts, and V-GINY was only shown against a starfield, with no planets visible. Regardless, I assumed that V-GINY was relatively close to Earth, and that Leela and Zapp crashed on Earth. I thought it was obvious that the situation wasn't as it seemed; firstly, this is Futurama; second, this is sci-fi; third, the circumstance of Leela being immobilized was obviously concocted to prevent her from seeing through Zapp's veil of deception. When the PE crew went to "Earth's last unspoiled acre" I deduced that they were in the same place as Leela and Zapp, because the glade where Leela was trapped was so small; figuring that out was like paint-by-numbers. The only time I doubted that they were on Earth and that Zapp was lying to Leela was when she saw Earth destroyed; I knew that Earth wasn't really destroyed (because sci-fi contrivances such as time travel or alternate dimensions hadn't been introduced in the episode), but I wasn't sure what had happened because I'd forgotten about the holo-projector. I'm not claiming to be some genius at deducing mysteries -- I'm not one of those lying douches who claimed to figure out The Sixth Sense before the twist ending -- but I honestly figured out most of what was going on before the truth was revealed. I'm not saying it was poorly written or anything; I just think that if you're familiar with Zapp's character, and you've seen episodes of Futurama such as "The Sting", you should be able to anticipate this sort of thing, even if you don't know precisely what's going on or what the twist will be.
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i_c_weiner
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You have a sixth sense, got it.
I didn't anticipate The Sting. However, oddly enough, I anticipated everything from the series Lost.
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Gorky
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As for Leela acting out of character, it was explained in the episode that she was delirious from dehydration -- and the mentral distress of believing the Earth was destroyed and she and Zapp were the only survivors -- which is why she nearly fell for Zapp's deception. I don't know if it was intentional or not, to not spoil the surprise, but I don't think that either the animation nor Katey Sagal's voice acting conveyed Leela's delirium as the events were happening; she looked and sounded fine.
This. I think it's probably a matter of Katey Sagal's acting, but you definitely couldn't feel Leela's delirium. And I really do think it was supposed to be there with lines like, "Except tubas"--all that nonsensical stuff. I said this in the season six thread, and I'll say it here: I don't think the writers were trying particularly hard to craft a story in IAGDL (at least beyond the middle part of act two, when Zapp and Leela crash-land; I thought that was good and almost classic Futurama). I think they just liked the notion of Leela and Zapp playing Adam and Eve, and didn't much care how that fit with who the characters are (mainly who Leela is).
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i_c_weiner
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In general, when trying to find any television or cinema online, one should try to find "DVD rips". These would be the ones that would likely be good quality. One should not go for a "cam rip" or other likewise sources.
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transgender nerd under canada
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I think the version of Rebirth I found was listed as a DVD Rip. Yeah, it was. Good quality, no artifacts, high fidelity sound. Made the experience that much more enjoyable.
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i_c_weiner
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And, usually after the premiere of television episodes, one will find HD rips of those episodes. Those are known to cause automatic orgasms.
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Sun-Wukong
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Now that i've seen the new episodes and I'm no longer watching 3 episodes a night as part of a countdown, I feel really empty. No more Futurama every single night. Maybe I should start watching every episode ever again to countdown until Attack of the Killer App! airs. Feh, I've been watching disc after disc of all the box sets over the past few days. "Good bye moderation!" to quote Anthology of Interest II. That said, I don't have Comedy Central so I have to let my sister tape it and then watch it later... Yes, on a VCR.
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i_c_weiner
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Now I'm tempted to videotape it, create a nice little VHS stash of Futurama episodes. Keep the tapes circulating!
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Sun-Wukong
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*Sigh* I have an HDTV, but no HD cable/satellite... I actually have it sitting on top of a regular TV with the cable hooked into that, the HDTV is for games n' such.
/offtopic, I've decided not to watch the leaked versions and wait to do things legit.
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Sun-Wukong
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I wasn't aware that you could, it always said full episodes weren't available for streaming. Besides, tapes are fun.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #107 on: 06-24-2010 05:18 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2010 05:19 »
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People talking about recording these episodes on VHS tapes really takes me back to 10 years ago, when I recorded all of the shows I liked onto VHS tapes. It was before the Futurama DVD sets were available, so I recorded the episodes on to tapes in SD mode, so only four shows would fit per tape (unless I edited out the commercials using a second VCR). I had nearly 30 Futurama tapes when the series was cancelled. And then the DVDs sets were released and I replaced them all with those.
Now I have a DVR/DVD Recorder (I eventually broke my VCR), which is awesome, because the quality is far superior, the discs are much smaller and don't degrade, I can easily edit out the commercials and input chapters, and I can play them on my computers.
Admittedly though, it's much easier and more convenient for me to simply download the shows I like off the internet. That's the only way I'm able to watch the new episodes of Futurama, since they're not airing here in Canada.
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The headless body of Agnew
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I did it I watched every episode and movie of Futurama in one sitting and no i did not get sick of it.
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i_c_weiner
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Given that it's past the 24th, shouldn't this thread be closed?
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Svip
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Given that it's past the 24th, shouldn't this thread be closed?
Or renamed to 1 July when the next episode airs!
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