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If I was matt Groening I would say to fox "fine, you don't want futurama than I don't want you to have the simpsons suck it bitches!" with a lil victory dance too. Why does he just not blackmail them with the simpsons?
For the very same reasons he created Futurama; he lacks the creative control of The Simpsons. He cannot make that decision alone.
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i_c_weiner

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Nice article, svip. Would be nice to have a follow up on those early Futurama ideas.
And let us not forget that Matt hasn't been a showrunner of the Simpsons since Season 2. The last time he wrote on the series was Season 7's 22 Short Films About Springfield way back in 1996. Also, that same Al Jean who he had the Critic dispute with has been the showrunner since Season 13 (2001), also known as the "it's all down hill from here" era.
In short, Fox and The Simpsons don't care about Groening anymore, and Groening doesn't care about Fox and The Simpsons anymore. He's a creative consultant and executive producer for the show now and that's it. And it's shown in recent years. Has he even show up at Simpsons Comic Con panels in recent years? His appearances on commentaries for Simpsons compared to Futurama speaks for itself.
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He was at least year's Comic-Con, but I guess mostly because it was right after the Futurama panel.
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I may just break my feeble attempt at this watch-every-episode-ever thing to watch this Comedy Central marathon. The line-up would appear to be as follows:
Roswell that Ends Well The Farnsworth Parabox Insane in the Mainframe Bender Gets Made Fry and the Slurm Factory The Sting Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch War is the H-Word The Route of All Evil Parasites Lost The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz Where No Fan Has Gone Before The Lesser of Two Evils Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television Love and Rocket Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love?
It'll be worth watching for the occasional never-before-seen promo they might throw our way.
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i_c_weiner

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I like that they chose a lot of the better episodes. Well, other than the ones that we all know suck... You know the ones I mean...
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I like that they chose a lot of the better episodes. Well, other than the ones that we all know suck... You know the ones I mean...
Are you talking about "Bender's Lame", "The Beast with a Billion Backs and a p*ssy Fry", and "Bender's Big Score with Everybody who Doesn't Give a Flying Fox about Continuity and Seymour"? Or are you talking about "That's Lobstertainment!"?
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i_c_weiner

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None of the above, in fact. Other than Bender's Game. And I actually like That's Lobstertainment. I meant (of those episodes in hte marathon) Fry and the Slurm Factory, The Route of All Evil, The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, and The Lesser of Two Evils.
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Fry and the Slurm Factory? Seriously?
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I didn't like the Slurm Factory. I was fine with the Fry, even And, but never The Slurm Factory. The episode was like Bender's Game to me: started off great, but trailed off.
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I'm not as big on "Fry and the Slurm Factory" as most other fans, either; i_c. Birdbot, though, is one of the most underrated episodes, and the subplot in "The Route of All Evil" really redeems it for me. I'm actually turning Comedy Central on right now, 'cause I never pass up a chance to see "Roswell That Ends Well."
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What? It had all sorts of excellent moments. 'Tell them I hate them', 'Party on, contest winners, party on', 'Ouch, my sperm', etc.
That episode kept it ringing throughout the entire time. Especially because it didn't waste too much time on its parody, 'yes, now we saw the whole river thingie, let's get on with the plot!' Unlike Bender's Game, which was just trying to fill in time.
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Not to say that Futurama episode survivor is exactly a credible scientific source, but Fry and The Slurm Factory finished 37th of 76 in the last Survivor from last year. That's pretty medium quality then. I bolded the episodes airing tonight, and added hr tags at quarter marks to define the awesome, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
1. Parasites Lost 2. Insane in the Mainframe 3. The Sting 4. Roswell That Ends Well 5. The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings 6. The Why of Fry 7. The Day the Earth Stood Stupid 8. Xmas Story 9. Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles 10. Into the Wild Green Yonder 11. Hell is Other Robots 12. Godfellas 13. Amazon Women in the Mood 14. The Farnsworth Parabox 15. The Luck of the Fryish 16. Less Than Hero 17. Leela's Homeworld 18. War is the H-Word 19. Jurassic Bark
20. Love's Labours Lost in Space 21. Space Pilot 3000 22. The Problem With Popplers 23. Bender Gets Made 24. Fear of a Bot Planet 25. Time Keeps on Slippin' 26. A Flight to Remember 27. I Second That Emotion 28. A Fishful of Dollars 29. Brannigan Begin Again 30. Anthology of Interest I 31. Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love? 32. How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back 33. Mother's Day 34. Three Hundred Big Boys 35. Anthology of Interest II 36. Put Your Head on My Shoulder 37. Fry and the Slurm Factory 38. Future Stock
39. A Head in the Polls 40. The Deep South 41. The Series Has Landed 42. Love and Rocket 43. Crimes of the Hot 44. When Aliens Attack 45. A Tale of Two Santas 46. The Honking 47. Bendin' in the Wind 48. Raging Bender 49. A Clone of My Own 50. Spanish Fry 51. I, Roommate 52. Mars University 53. The Lesser of Two Evils 54. Where No Fan Has Gone Before 55. Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television 56. Bendless Love 57. The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz
58. The 30% Iron Chef 59. A Big Piece of Garbage 60. My Three Suns 61. A Pharaoh to Remember 62. Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch 63. A Bicyclops Built for Two 64. Bender's Big Score 65. The Cyber House Rules 66. Bend Her 67. The Route of All Evil 68. I Dated a Robot 69. A Taste of Freedom 70. Bender's Game 71. A Leela of Her Own 72. Obsoletely Fabulous 73. The Cryonic Woman 74. That's Lobstertainment! 75. Where the Buggalo Roam 76. The Beast With a Billion Backs
Looks like the breakdown is 6/3/5/2, or 9/7 between high and low rated. Once again, this isn't a complete science, nor does it reflect my opinions on episodes (such as WNFHGB, BBS, and Lobstertainment apearing in the lower half, and Beast at last).
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You got to admit, "The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz" does have the best episode title. Then the peace ring fail hit it out of the park.
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Naw, Roswell That Ends Well is the best. How many other episode titles of other series reference Shakespeare? And, not only that, the title appears on their missile! The only other times the title of the episode was mentioned within it were the brochure in Hell Is Other Robots and Bender saying, "Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television," in the episode of the same name.
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I always forget about Mother's Day. That episode and A Pharaoh to Remember always feel foreign to me, like I've never seen them.
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Word on the mediocrity of "A Pharaoh to Remember." And if I recall correctly, that episode survivor got very contentious--lots of infighting, highly political. That accounts for a lot of episodes that I think are really great being so lowly-rated ("Bend Her", what are you doing in the bottom quarter?), and I'm sure that's true for other fans. I'm just happy that people showed "Insane in the Mainframe" the respect it deserves. It may just be my favorite episode.
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APTR is a very good episode, the 2 funeral services, Leela's skimpy tunic, and the set colors makes it one of the top ones.
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And if I recall correctly, that episode survivor got very contentious--lots of infighting, highly political.
That reminds me, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize as I still feel guilty for just barging in and joining the game without permission in the second quarter.
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« Reply #349 on: 06-22-2010 00:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-22-2010 00:07 »
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And if I recall correctly, that episode survivor got very contentious--lots of infighting, highly political.
That reminds me, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize as I still feel guilty for just barging in and joining the game without permission in the second quarter.
That wasn't a problem at all. The more community participation, the better! Some thought me not being at my computer at all times was a sign that I was biased towards certain episodes. Once this new season is finished in September, I'm planning on doing a more sophisticated Episode Survivor that should "cut down on spam", as some mods felt the survivor game is. And Gorky, I'll post a comparison graph showing the original Survivor rankings compared to these new ones.
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For the record, i_c, I thought you did a fine job running that episode Survivor; I thought it generated some interesting (read: nerdy) debate about the episodes and their merits. Oh, and I love graphs!
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I'm posting in the best episode discussion an epic spreadsheet dissecting Futurama Episode Survivor 2005 and 2009. In basics, it seems that the problem with 2009's was the misplaced negative sentiment against the movies in their immediate wake.
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Evidence seems to indicate that 6ACV14 will indeed be title " The Silence of the Clamps". Indicate in this source and I quote: With their scripts on easels in front of them, they began at Act 1, Scene 1 of "The Silence of the Clamps," performing each scene in sequence. Other than a mention of what Hermes' line is in the first episode of the new season, not so much new stuff in this article.
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« Reply #353 on: 06-22-2010 23:58 »
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If anybody was wondering how hard Comedy Central is advertising new Futurama, they made an event on Facebook for Thursday's premiere via their Futurama page. How did I find out about this event? Comedy Central bought ad space on Facebook on the right side of the main screen (the space that says "sponsored" and usually has a little poll). That's millions of Facebook users seeing this ad. So far, almost 30k have said they're "attending the event", but there's still two more days. Bravo to Comedy Central for their advertising of Futurama. There's promos about once every hour on CC, you have Futurama featured on the CC homepage, Futurama ads infront of streaming Daily Show and Colbert Report, and now Facebook. I'm positive this will do a lot for ratings, and it's far more than Fox ever did. (Yes, you can say that Fox never had some of this technology, but they didn't match it adjusted for technological inflation.)
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« Reply #355 on: 06-23-2010 11:05 »
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If anybody was wondering how hard Comedy Central is advertising new Futurama, they made an event on Facebook for Thursday's premiere via their Futurama page. How did I find out about this event? Comedy Central bought ad space on Facebook on the right side of the main screen (the space that says "sponsored" and usually has a little poll). That's millions of Facebook users seeing this ad. So far, almost 30k have said they're "attending the event", but there's still two more days.
Speaking of this group...(and I know this wasn't the point of your post, so I apologize)... Anyone else notice that someone seems to have somehow acquired and POSTED the two episodes (minus the endings it seems) in that group? No way am I watching them 'til they actually air...but holy hell, how did these leak out? (Sorry if discussion of this isn't allowed...feel free to edit this if need be.) And yeah, I agree, Comedy Central has been way better about advertising this show. I don't even have (real) cable, but I've still seen tons of ads for it thanks to the Daily Show/Colbert advertising and even banner ads in random places. They're putting some real muscle into it that I can't recall Fox ever doing, outside of maybe the pilot. I think they just care about it more than Fox did.
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Anyone else notice that someone seems to have somehow acquired and POSTED the two episodes (minus the endings it seems) in that group? No way am I watching them 'til they actually air...but holy hell, how did these leak out?
Easy. The episodes were sent to reviewers so they could review the episodes (noticed the high amount of reviews lately?), so one of these who got their hands on the new episodes, decided to leak them. It happens every time films or episodes are sent in advance for reviews. This will not happen with the upcoming episodes, since they will not be given out in advance.
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I'm very happy that there will likely not be screeners sent out in advance for upcoming episodes. I don't like the feeling of having the episodes out there until it's supposed to air... It's good for addicts and internationals, but yeah...
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