New Futurama speculations (Spoilers ahoy)

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mom takes over twitter

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In this episode of Futurama...Mom takes over Twitter! No one can ever Tweet safely again!

Who would use Twitter in the series to make it significant?

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maybe zoidberg or fry develop an addiction?
"I have friends....hurray for Zoidberg!"

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How about Zoidberg and Fry. That would be interesting, in some way.

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Svip: Maaaybe that one, yeah.  Depends on how they handle it.  Of course, if they still retain good writers they can turn almost any potentially lame-sounding idea into quality; or at least something interesting.

And also of course, it is all a moot point anyway if the ridiculous dispute drags on much longer.
The fans are really being played for chumps..

Indeed have faith with both the writers and that this whole VA thing will turn out well.... I probably won't watch or be as interested in the eps if the actors aren't the originals...may still watch though to see how lame the replacements will be

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The same goes for this time-travelling in the future: a lame ploy to show the fans Fry and Leela's spawn, in my opinion.

Oh, hah, I doubt that very much is the intend.  You will not see a spawn of them.  I am willing to bet on this.

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One of the tadpoles maybe?

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Oh, hah, I doubt that very much is the intend.  You will not see a spawn of them.  I am willing to bet on this.

Not even a glimpse in the background as they time travel a la the time machine?
I'll take that bet...

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Do we still have to hide. It does say "spoilers ahoy!".

Anyway, I'm with Svip. The Time-Travel episode sounds the most interesting to me and I doubt they'd use it as a chance to show a child of Fry and Leela, since that is pretty definitive. If they're supposed to have ups-and-downs than showing a kid just immediately makes those ups-and-downs pointless since we'll know (ABSOLUTELY) how it will turn out. I'm not even sure we'll see a future version of Fry and Leela (since they might want to hold off on it to keep those ups-and-downs relevant).

However, this episode will probably be a great chance for the writers to throw references to future events. I bet it'll be worthwhile to watch the episode once completely focusing on the background.

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The same goes for this time-travelling in the future: a lame ploy to show the fans Fry and Leela's spawn, in my opinion.

Oh, hah, I doubt that very much is the intend.  You will not see a spawn of them.  I am willing to bet on this.

I'd think that it'd be impossible, considering the circumstances.

Unless if clones or duplicates are created to fulfill Fry's and the Professor's absence, the future that Fry and the Professor will visit will be one uninfluenced by their presence. And I doubt that Leela's going to inject Fry's semen into her eggs as a way of "remembering" him.

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Ah didn't think of that....good point

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Anyway, I'm with Svip. The Time-Travel episode sounds the most interesting to me and I doubt they'd use it as a chance to show a child of Fry and Leela, since that is pretty definitive. If they're supposed to have ups-and-downs than showing a kid just immediately makes those ups-and-downs pointless since we'll know (ABSOLUTELY) how it will turn out. I'm not even sure we'll see a future version of Fry and Leela (since they might want to hold off on it to keep those ups-and-downs relevant).

Not so, Fistful. The future they may travel to in one point in time may (well, almost certain) be different from the future they travel to in another.

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@Frida: If they used a Time-Machine to go back would they be going back to their original universe? Because the way you describe it sounds like Back to the Future Parallel Universe Time Travel rather than closed-loop Time Travel.

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Never watched "Back to the Future"... but I know what you're talking about.

I'm describing a "Back to the Future" Parallel Universe Time Travel.

And yes, using the time-machine they would go back to their own universe (at the time that they want).

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The same goes for this time-travelling in the future: a lame ploy to show the fans Fry and Leela's spawn, in my opinion.

Oh, hah, I doubt that very much is the intend.  You will not see a spawn of them.  I am willing to bet on this.

Then we have a deal, sir.

Anyway, I'm with Svip. The Time-Travel episode sounds the most interesting to me and I doubt they'd use it as a chance to show a child of Fry and Leela, since that is pretty definitive. If they're supposed to have ups-and-downs than showing a kid just immediately makes those ups-and-downs pointless since we'll know (ABSOLUTELY) how it will turn out.

Seeing a child of Fry and Leela (the last thing I want to see on Futurama, so I really hope you and Svip are right) wouldn't necessarily mean that they are still together in the future, though. And from the last DXC interview we got, the answer about an eventual kid of them looked more like a "yes" than a "no" - or at least this is the feeling I got from that.

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Or the time travel episode could be one of those, 'if I don't do something now, this is how it is going to look', type of things. Of course I don't think Matt and David X. will do something that simple.

To give the idea of offspring, but not reveal if they have any or not, Fry could go looking to see if he has any children. But before he has the chance, he and Farnsworth travel "uncontrollably," as the article says.

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@Frida: So I guess when they get back they'll just hide behind a box or something until their earlier versions leave (since I assume to go back to their universe they would need to go back before the time they Time-Traveled, or else they'd end up in the second "without them" universe (feel free to correct me. I'd love to learn).

@Smarty: That sounds pretty good. Perhaps we could even hear a kid's voice say "Daddy" but they teleport before Fry can investigate.

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@Frida: So I guess when they get back they'll just hide behind a box or something until their earlier versions leave (since I assume to go back to their universe they would need to go back before the time they Time-Traveled, or else they'd end up in the second "without them" universe (feel free to correct me. I'd love to learn).

Yeah, something like that. Only funny.

@Smarty: That sounds pretty good. Perhaps we could even hear a kid's voice say "Daddy" but they teleport before Fry can investigate.

I always thought it would be a great gag for an episode like that to only be able to hear the offspring, but never see him/her/it/them. Kind of like how Maggie Simpson never talks.

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I always thought it would be a great gag for an episode like that to only be able to hear the offspring, but never see him/her/it/them. Kind of like how Maggie Simpson never talks.

Yeah, almost like Charlie Brown or those shows where they don't show the heads of the parents.

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I actually meant to post this:

Kind of mirroring how Maggie Simpson never talks.

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um i disagree

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how do i create a person

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Three points of order, directed at courtneysmexy:

1.) With what are you disagreeing in that first post? I am somewhat perplexed.

2.) Double-posting is bad. Don't do it.

3.) Asking how one creates a person seems to have philosophical implications, but we'll ignore them for now. Assuming you're talking about getting yourself an avatar, all you have to do is go to your own profile, and click on "Forum Profile Information." From there, you'll find a list of pre-existing avatars to choose from.

Bonus point of order: Welcome to PEEL, although you could very well be a fake account, a 10-year old girl, or a 78-year old man. Here's hoping you're just a quasi-well-adjusted Futurama fan.

As far as the spoilers go: The time-travel episode sounds pretty cool, as does the Zapp/Leela story. Other than that, though, none of these ideas are striking me as all that, er...good. But, like Frisco said, we'll just have to wait and see, because these descriptions certainly can't be doing the stories themselves much justice.

Oh, and I'm glad DXC pushed for resolving that pesky wormhole business. Although I'm still kind of worried that we won't get an actual Fry/Leela relationship, which makes virtually no sense to me, after Leela's profession of love at the end of ItWGY. No amount of explaining will make it believable to me. (I mean, I could see her attempting to get out of it, or trying to rationalize it to Fry, but I do think the end-game should be a relationship. And by "end-game" I mean "by the end of the first episode." But that's probably just wishful thinking.)

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Well they did use the word "destined" talking about Fry and Leela. Other than that I refer you to a discussion I had with IC since I'm far to lazy to type it again.

"Ups and downs" probably means a return to the original series status of the relationship, especially Seasons 3 and 4, as in a return to the status I liked best, since they weren't really together and it left open the door to good stories where they're not together.

I'm not sure "ups and downs" refers to a season 3 - 4 style situation. That's more like 1 step forward 2 steps back. "Ups and downs" probably means what I've been suggesting for years, the way the handle their relationship and get used to it. Besides trying to weasel out of ITWGY's ending seems too difficult to actually pull off without just being lazy/stupid.

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They could have them agree to go on a date, and them immediately cut to Leela at the restaurant table with Fry telling him, "Yeah, this isn't going to work out," and go to a B-story from there. Quick and efficient. Sure, it weasels out of ITWGY's ending, but it'll get laughs.

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Yeah, but then we're back to the hot-and-cold thing, which is already well-covered territory. I think the writers either have to write off the possibility of Fry and Leela as a couple entirely (which they have no intention of doing, based on what they said at Comic-Con), or get them together and simply deal with the fact that they're in a romantic relationship. I can handle the ups and downs (it'd get boring pretty quickly otherwise), but it'd be nice if we got some new conflicts for the two of them. If you put the obstacles in the context of a romantic relationship--as opposed to a friendship--then I think the story possiblities are endless and, better still, fresh.

Although I will say that the scenario you posed, i_c, amuses me; I can picture it so clearly.

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You know, i_c_ and Gorky made me realize one of the reasons I like Futurama over The Simpsons and many other T.V. shows: It changes.

What I mean is that, unlike The Simpsons, there's been real change (i.e. growth) to the characters and world (don't be offended, Simpsons fans (of which I'm also one). This entire post will be chock full of truthiness (screw you, Spellcheck! Truthiness is a word. Look it up!). I honestly can see a growth from S1 all the way to S4 (the movies stopped this for a little (except for ITWGY (Super Fanboy of that one). Something changed that I probably couldn't adequately explain, even if I cared to write a 20 paragraph-long post, but I feel that this is true.

Bart is the same Bart he is today that he was 15 years ago. The writing, voicing, animation, and even history of the character are different, but he himself is not (and this goes for the rest of The Simpsons too). Fry of any random season/movie is different than a Fry of any other season/movie (and this goes for any other Futurama character). There is growth, there is change.

If my post reaches any point, it's that I disagree with i_c_ and anyone else who doesn't want to see the F/L relationship continue and wants the show to return to "normal". Returning to "normal" is what The Simpsons always does, and look what happened. You may not like change, but in the end, it's what makes this show so great and what'll keep all of us interested (so I agree with Gorky that the relationship (and other ballsy developments) are what'll keep the show fresh).

P.S. Spluh! The only change that shouldn't happen is that of the show's staff. FEMINISTAS UNITE! (did I do that right?)

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But if they get into a relationship, and if they say that they're meant to be together, that creates a situation that doesn't change and is thus the very thing you're hoping to prevent.

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IC that particular situation took ten years to change. I wouldn't worry about trying to change it again, especially seeing how it's either one or the other so you'd just be going back to square one.

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But square one was the best square! I and my chocolate milk are not amused!

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According to the futurama madhouse, Bender and Fry will have twitter accounts so fans can interact with them.....
Don't know if that will link to the twitte episode though

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Although I'm still kind of worried that we won't get an actual Fry/Leela relationship, which makes virtually no sense to me, after Leela's profession of love at the end of ItWGY. No amount of explaining will make it believable to me. (I mean, I could see her attempting to get out of it, or trying to rationalize it to Fry, but I do think the end-game should be a relationship. And by "end-game" I mean "by the end of the first episode." But that's probably just wishful thinking.)

It sure doesn't look like it. And thats disappointing. Cue more missteps, slipups, and more abuse poured on Leela's head from angry shippers. Bah.

I can't see them ever getting together, not properly anyway, until the last ever episode. (Un)fortunately that keeps getting pushed back, and back...

Well they did use the word "destined" talking about Fry and Leela. Other than that I refer you to a discussion I had with IC since I'm far to lazy to type it again.

"Ups and downs" probably means a return to the original series status of the relationship, especially Seasons 3 and 4, as in a return to the status I liked best, since they weren't really together and it left open the door to good stories where they're not together.

I'm not sure "ups and downs" refers to a season 3 - 4 style situation. That's more like 1 step forward 2 steps back. "Ups and downs" probably means what I've been suggesting for years, the way the handle their relationship and get used to it. Besides trying to weasel out of ITWGY's ending seems too difficult to actually pull off without just being lazy/stupid.

It's more like 10 steps forward and 9 steps back each time... well, at least we get to see them actually going on a date this time.  

According to the futurama madhouse, Bender and Fry will have twitter accounts so fans can interact with them.....
Don't know if that will link to the twitte episode though

It would make sense if it did...

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I can handle the ups and downs (it'd get boring pretty quickly otherwise), but it'd be nice if we got some new conflicts for the two of them. I

I could see Bender not liking the idea of Fry and Leela as a couple. He's a bit of an attention seeker, and suddenly finding that he's no longer automatically Fry's best friend would annoy him. Cue lots of dramatic potential.

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I could see Bender not liking the idea of Fry and Leela as a couple. He's a bit of an attention seeker, and suddenly finding that he's no longer automatically Fry's best friend would annoy him. Cue lots of dramatic potential.

Very true. I mean last time he felt ingnored he took over the Earth.

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@i_c_: The idea that F/L apart creates more stories seems a bit far-fetched to me. Single guys work, go home, go out with some friends, maybe get laid, then they get home, play some games, and go to sleep to start it all over again. In other words, nothing happens.

In a working relationship, there is constant struggle. I'm not talking about boring couples that become walking ghosts. I'm talking about two people who try (succeed?) in making a relationship work. Changes are constant since they have to get used to each other. They get to know each other more and more, hate becomes stronger, love becomes stronger (and anything in between).

The show needs something as living/constantly changing as a good relationship (with many ups and downs, as the writers have promised), which F/L together provides. I say one of the failures of The Simpsons is that they stopped evolving Marge and Homer's relationship (and others) and left it as it was when it began (that's one of the reasons The Simpsons Movie is overall liked: It's a return to the old style of change. Characters are tested (and it's well-written and funny).

The heart of this show is characters. Maybe some think it's crazy plots or high/low-brow jokes, but it's how those plots and jokes affect the characters that actually matters. Some others are worried about this new season, I'm very excited (I'm positive we'll get the actors back so I'm not going to focus on that). A return to the characters means a return to what made this show great and worth bringing back.

@Wonderpants: That will certainly be one of the more interesting aspects of F/L's relationship in the new season. I do hope that the writers remember that while Fry is Bender's Best Friend, he and Leela are friends as well.

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So... what're everyone's thoughts on the Zoidberg/Scruffy origin episodes?
I think they sound like they have some good potential for laughs and may hopefully develop the scruffy character more... 

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So... what're everyone's thoughts on the Zoidberg/Scruffy origin episodes?
I think they sound like they have some good potential for laughs and may hopefully develop the scruffy character more... 

Yes, I'd like to know why Professor Farnsworth hired these two in the first place. Zoidberg is just a bit incompetent and Scruffy is just plain lazy.

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So... what're everyone's thoughts on the Zoidberg/Scruffy origin episodes?
I think they sound like they have some good potential for laughs and may hopefully develop the scruffy character more...  

Yes, I'd like to know why Professor Farnsworth hired these two in the first place. Zoidberg is just a bit incompetent and Scruffy is just plain lazy.

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Maybe Zoidberg saved his life or something? He has been shown to be competent on a few occasions...

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Maybe Zoidberg saved his life or something? He has been shown to be competent on a few occasions...

My idea, which would need some humor:

First of all, it is a flashback episode, obviously. The Professor and Zoidberg somehow get in a fight, and the Professor threatens to fire him. They keep their distance. Zoidberg goes and talks to Leela, and he complains how he is a failure. He then explains why, and his experiences at medical school and him being kicked out, but is interrupted by Bender and goes away. Meanwhile, Professor goes into the lounge. Fry or whoever asks what's wrong, he explains his story, then Fry asks why he hired him in the first place then. 

Yes, I can see it. The full story together. Zoidberg just got kicked out from medical school. He's walking down the street next to Planet Express. Suddenly, a man in his 130s can be seen on the balcony of Planet Express. Something explodes and he runs into the building. Zoidberg, alarmed, runs up to help him and somehow saves his life.

The Professor, happy with his doctoring skills, hires him as the doctor of the company. Zoidberg, just happy he has a job, accepts, even though he is a failure and has no degree. But hey, the Professor doesn't care, as long as he can get cheap labor.

Thus the long friendship between the two. They make up at the end, blah blah blah, then Zoidberg breaks something and Farnsworth yells.

The end.

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Awesome idea....I could see that working, though the episode would probably need a b-plot to flesh it out a bit more.....maybe something with Fry and bender doing something stupid or getting into trouble.
Anyway, a lot of humour could come from the medical school bits and maybe a previous Planet express crew could make an appearance 

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Awesome idea....I could see that working, though the episode would probably need a b-plot to flesh it out a bit more.....maybe something with Fry and bender doing something stupid or getting into trouble.
Anyway, a lot of humour could come from the medical school bits and maybe a previous Planet express crew could make an appearance 

I think it would be funny to see a super efficient staff then, in contrast to the semi-dysfunctional one now.

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Awesome idea....I could see that working, though the episode would probably need a b-plot to flesh it out a bit more.....maybe something with Fry and bender doing something stupid or getting into trouble.
Anyway, a lot of humour could come from the medical school bits and maybe a previous Planet express crew could make an appearance 

I think it would be funny to see a super efficient staff then, in contrast to the semi-dysfunctional one now.

Yeah...one that actually charges people for deliveries...

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So... what're everyone's thoughts on the Zoidberg/Scruffy origin episodes?
I think they sound like they have some good potential for laughs and may hopefully develop the scruffy character more...  

Yes, I'd like to know why Professor Farnsworth hired these two in the first place. Zoidberg is just a bit incompetent and Scruffy is just plain lazy.

Zoidberg I can understand, they probably need a doctor on hand for some rule/law about health and safety at work, or University regulations about the Professors lab experiments, or something. And he's cheap. Very cheap.

The question is why is Scruffy there at all? Considering the prof pays little or no wages to the regular crew, what does he pay Scruffy, considering he's only the janitor? Maybe Scruffy has a hold over the prof in some way?