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TitaniusAnglesmith

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« #7 : 05-01-2009 09:14 »
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When is Comic-Con?
July 24–27, 2009 I hope yes I don't know I never was at comic-con there's no such thing in uk
Yeah but theres youtube..
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Gorky

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« #13 : 05-04-2009 10:13 »
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Jesus, that's lovely. I really hope the show tanks, just 'cause I'm bitter. Although, if Sit Down, Shut Up fails miserably (and how could it not, with its current time-slot?), then I suppose that leaves room on the schedule for Futurama. 'Course, returning a brilliant show to a cruddy time-slot where it was continuously pre-empted and largely ignored by non-diehard fans doesn't seem like the wisest decision. And, since Fox seems so interested in showing only animated programming on Sundays, I'd say we'll have to wait for some sort of opening in the Sunday night schedule before Futurama is even considered.
That said, I think an announcement at Comic-Con is still a possibility--if not this year, then next. Though the longer we wait for news on the future of the show, the less likely it seems that it will return.
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speedracer
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« #16 : 05-04-2009 23:47 »
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Futurama's first season and a half crushed Firefly -- about 12 MM viewers for the former, and about 3 MM for the latter (though since Firefly was an hour long, for ad purposes it's the equivalent of 6 MM). Futurama's last season averaged about 6.4 MM viewers, after Fox had basically put it on life support. Over the last few weeks, FG has been pulling in about 7 MM viewers/week and American Dad about 5.5 MM. Ratings for just about everything are in the toilet nowadays though, so it's hard to compare numbers for 2009 with numbers for 1999-2003.
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Svip

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« #17 : 05-04-2009 23:57 »
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And let's not forget that Firefly was aired completely out of order on a show that could not handle it, whereas Futurama could sort of handle the broadcast order, but for Firefly it made no sense.
Some believe that this strange broadcast order made Firefly a far less successful show. But those numbers look pretty good for Futurama, and also that the people who watch Family Guy are probably not going to watch the reruns again, or rather, that crowd is a lot more loose than those that keep Futurama alive and kickin'... well, its spirit at least.
I think the only thing keeping Fox executives from signing the contract is the 45% downturn in ad revenue. And that pretty much says from those above, "keep your feet off the pedal, only buy 'secure' shows, and cancel all others!"
This is more about not wanting to loose their jobs for some guys, than whether Futurama is actually worth it (it is).
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FistfulOAwesome

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« #18 : 05-05-2009 01:38 »
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Come on. Of course I think it's worth it. Your post a few months ago on Madhouse ( http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/archive/arc1-2009.shtml) definitely gives FOX huge cause to renew the show. The problem would be if FOX thinks Futurama can get the numbers. We all love this show but the sad truth is that Sci-Fi isn't incredibly marketable no matter what format it shows up in. People generally aren't interested in Sci-Fi. Family Guy and its compatriots are an easy sell since it sells to the LCD of viewers: Slack Jawed Idiots who don't want to think while they are watching T.V. The average person probably doesn't want to come home to watch a t.v. show where they don't get half the jokes and are occasionally lowballed with an episode like 407 that makes them feel bad for the rest of the night. I love Futurama and I have high hopes for its return. I just don't know if FOX is smart enough to do it and give it a proper chance if it does. I'm not sure FOX's current audience would give it a chance either. P.S. To any PEELers who like FG: I didn't mean you, you handsome devils.
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speedracer
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« #27 : 05-07-2009 08:52 »
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Really? Don't FG and AD episodes take 6 months to produce? Obviously those shows aren't as lush as Futurama, but I'd be surprised if they cost less than, say, 75% of what it takes to produce an episode of Futurama. It's not like South Park, which legitimately is dirt-cheap to produce. Searching the web isn't too helpful, but here's an old thread from another board suggesting that FG and Futurama are fairly close in production costs.
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Angelikfire

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« #28 : 05-07-2009 16:28 »
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Also, much as I love Futurama I don't think it would get that many more viewers than SMF's shows.
I don't have effective data (and I'm surely biased), but it seems to me that the general Internet consensus isn't really looking forward to The Cleveland Show, while I've seen there are lots of people (many more than I thought) that wouldn't mind Futurama coming back. And I'm talking about multi-fandom communities, not specific forums and such. But I repeat myself, as an avid Futurama fan I only see what I want to see.  And about production costs: I'm no expert, but if Futurama came back I think Fox would make them reduce production costs due to the economic crisis (like they did with FG and AD). This isn't good for us, but I think they could manage to keep the 3D stuff by avoiding expensive guest stars and such. SMF's shows don't cost a million dollars an episode. I haven't watched many FG and AD episodes, but IIRC there were a couple of 3D shots. Not as cool as Futurama's, but still quite expensive, I assume.
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Chug a Bug

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« #33 : 05-09-2009 00:19 »
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I think the only thing keeping Fox executives from signing the contract is the 45% downturn in ad revenue. And that pretty much says from those above, "keep your feet off the pedal, only buy 'secure' shows, and cancel all others!"
Sure, that may be true for a new season of episodes, but they could order some more DVD movies at least, they're not tied to advertising revenues surely. As Matt Groening said, FOX is making money from them so it makes sense. Your comment on Futurama Madhouse was back in February and you said you thought we'd hear in a month or so... so, whats keeping them? I mean, I would prefer a TV season because thats the way the format works best, but if new movies are all thats on offer, then I'll happily take what I can get. Any Futurama is better than no Futurama. Comic Con can't come soon enough.
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« #37 : 05-09-2009 01:01 »
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More interesting factoids: You can go here and check Amazon's DVD rankings for Fox TV shows. At the time of this post, all four Futurama seasons (which were released from 2003-2004) rank above all Simpsons seasons except for 1,11,12 (1 was released in 2001, then they started releasing them annually or semi-annually. 11 was released last year, 12 is to be released this year). In particular, it's beating all the Simpsons DVDs that were released around the same time (which include most of the Simpsons' strongest years). Similarly, the Futurama seasons are beating all of the American Dad volumes except volume 4 (which was released 2 weeks ago; volume 1 was released in 2006). The most recent Futurama DVD, Into The Wild Green Yonder, is beating all of the Simpsons and AD DVDs. Of course, Family Guy is crushing them all. It's interesting that the Futurama DVDs can outrank their Simpsons and AD contemporaries despite Futurama not being on network TV since 2003. Granted, these rankings are probably quite volatile since they likely only represent a few dozen DVD sales a month, and Amazon's sales aren't totally representative of DVD sales around the world, but it's evidence that the Futurama market is still growing.
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