What is your favorite Futurama movie?

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Anyway, back to the topic at hand...

TOTPD!

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Holy critter? TAKE IT AWAY!!!!!

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What? That was a metronome before... no if I say that he'll just change that again. It's either a metronome, a zoidberg, or a something else...

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I changed it because this thread was getting to... Metronome...y

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Yeah, I have too much abstract humor, I wish I'd never started it.

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So, get down on your claws and do the apology dance.

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La da da da da(left) la da da da da (right) la da da(left, more left)

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you cry with that?!!! you pussy!





i cry with his brother loving him so much and naming him after his dead brother... which also gets destroyed by the movie.. he gets back and next day they all eat toghether again... so bbs screwed some things up in a good way

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ooooh now i get it!! i responded to sth in the first page...

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1.Into wild green youlder-good movie that I downloaded 10 days before the premiere  on DVD
2.Beast with bilion backs-I only saw first 44 minutes of It in science in school but i liked It
3.
4.bender's big score-really bad comeback of futurama.I only liked first 4 minutes.
I didn't saw yet BG

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Into The Wild Green Yonder is the best by far!!!!!

I think it was the funniest overall too.

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I <3 ITWGY!! 

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ITWGY is the funniest and is my favourite, but still BBS had a very good story.

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don't u all love my post topic

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I prefer the episodes to the movies though

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I've had this in my head for a while. I think these are the conditions of the writers as they wrote the movies:

BBS- Drinking
BWABB- Drunk
BG- Hangover
ITWGY- Sober

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Yep, that sounds realistic to me.

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My favourite movie is..... Benders Big Score, oh yeh, hi everyone been on holiday for ages thats why I haven't been on for so long!  

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I was wondering where you were Einahpet. Welcome back.

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I chose Beast With a Billion Backs because I felt it was just the most genuinely funny. Plus, I'm immature and all the sexual innuendos just made my life measurably better.

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I love all the movies, so very hard to choose a favourite for me.
Well, I voted for bender's big score, becouse it has the most developed plot.
I realy liked the time travelling anomalies and the hard to track storyline.
Despite of the terminator idea was already told in the comics, Bender's Big Score is my favourite. I liked the new caracters also:)

"na na na naaa, na na na naaa we took your plaaanet..."

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into the wiled green yonder RULES!!!!!!

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Attention:  This person is a scam.  He is not the biggest Futurama fan.  He did not know that Melllvar is spelt with three L's.

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into the wiled green yonder RULES!![TOO MANY EXCLAMATION MARKS]

Please delete some of those, or at least put line breaks in. You've stuffed up the page width, asshat.

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Page... Too..  Long... Must... Find.... Reply... Button...

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What tnuk and Svip mean, I think, is: Welcome to PEEL, new guy who killed the page!
I mean, I'm all for appreciating Futurama, and I understand that appreciation is often
expressed in exclamation-point form; however, this may just be a wee bit of an overkill.

Also, it's "Wild", not "Wiled." Just thought I'd put that out there.

Edit: Aw, shit, when this page gets fixed, my post is gonna look all funny (like my face, etc...).

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I dunno, Gorky, he bursts into #futuramachat and says he is the biggest Futurama fan ever, so he wants us to challenge him.  He starts by forcing us to say the names of episodes and then he says their production number - woah.

But then we are comparing him to Melllvar, and he keeps writing his name with two Ls, where to we specify that the biggest Futurama fan would know this, and he abruptly leaves.  I think it is safe to assume that he is not the biggest Futurama fan.

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What tnuk and Svip mean, I think, is: Welcome to PEEL

Wrong. What I meant was what I said. You might need to learn to read.

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Wow, FOA, that's a pretty in-depth post. And, to paraphrase Randy, there are parts of it I like and parts I don't like. So here's my rebuttal of sorts...

BBS

Leela completely ignores Fry's feelings throughout the movie. I can understand that she is excited about her new relationship but considering she knows about Fry's feelings for her she didn't have to rub his nose into it. She could have let him down easy.

I agree that the Leela/Fry interaction in the movie fell mostly flat (and that, in a lot of ways, Leela wasn't the most likeable person), but I don't see that as so out-of-character, or even a reset of the original series. I mentioned this in the shipping thread, but here's the gist: If you want to argue that the reset button was pressed (and I don't think it was, necessarily), then you have to accept that Fry and Leela aren't going to be much closer now, eight years into their friendship, than they were when last we saw them, four years into their friendship. At the end of season four, they were inarguably growing closer (episodes like "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", "The Why of Fry", "The Sting", "The Farnsworth Parabox", and "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" prove as much); but, if the writers reset the original series finale (Devil's Hands), then I don't think its fair to hold the Fry/Leela relationship to the same standard as you might've held it had BBS acknowledged TDHaIP.

The way I see it, though, the reset button wasn't pressed between Devil's Hands and BBS. I just think that the writers chose not to elaborate on what happened between "I want to hear how it ends" and "We're back on the air!" For all we know, Fry and Leela could've dated for a while. Or--and this is the more likely option--Leela let him down easy back then, and in the four proceeding years, their friendship was in a sort of stasis.

And it's worth mentioning that I don't think Leela was flaunting her relationship or rubbing it in Fry's face; if anything, she was bragging about it to everyone, and not just Fry specifically. (Plus, I'd argue that she was always into parading her new boyfriends around to the entire PE crew: Adlai and Chaz come to mind. So the supposed insensitivity to Fry's feelings is by no means an innovation of BBS; it's something Leela's been doing for the entire series.) Sure, after the wedding's called off, all those comments about Lars being the only man she'll ever love do seem a bit insensitive, since she's saying it to Fry; however, she was devastated, so I don't think it's so gauche for her to be unconcerned with how her feelings for Lars might make Fry feel (also, all the "only man I'll ever love" stuff just makes the ending more powerful and inevitable, IMO).

We lose Bender early on. His control under the nudists essentially neuter his performance. Worst thing about that is the movie is still focused on Bender yet Bender isn't himself. That's a waste of probably the best character on the show.

Bender still retains his core Bender-ness, though--he's still homicidal and snarky when it counts. It's just that he's also an ass-kisser (which is nothing new, either. Remember Elzar?).

Nibblers bit in the movie is unnecessary. He doesn't add anything to the movie. Seriously, take him out and nothing is lost. About the only reason for him to be in it is to explain that the time code is paradox correcting (which I think is stupid) and one-way and that could have been explained by a legend (maybe as part of that fairy-tale book from 409).

I agree that the reveal with Nibbler was incredibly disappointing. It kind of ruins all the secrecy and mystique surrounding his two speaking appearances in "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid" and "The Why of Fry". Now that I think of it, though, the writers probably chose to reveal the truth about Nibbler in BBS so that they wouldn't have to waste time on it in "Bender's Game".

Lars didn't work out as planned. He was supposed to ingrain to the audience that Leela is truly in love with Fry but that is messed with by the fact that Leela barely acknowledges Fry throughout the movie. We're supposed to believe that she loves this guy who she barely knows exist?

See, I think it accomplished that. The scene that cinches it, for me, is when they're in the Head Museum at night (Lars, in that scene, is very Fry-ish to me), and Leela says, "My life is changing so fast. I don't know who I am anymore." It's sort of a nod to the fact that, hey, Leela has really let every other aspect of her life (including her friendship with Fry) go by the wayside because she's so head-over-heels for Lars. Their entire romance has this whirlwind quality to it (they can't be dating for more than a month or two before his proposal on Xmas Eve), and I think that line of Leela's offers us some insight into how she feels about the whole thing. She loves Lars, but in loving him she's lost control (which is interesting, because that's probably always been part of her hang-up with dating Fry). Then Lars comes back with, "You're the woman I've been waiting for all my life" (such a Fry line, and one of those that I'm sure was intended to set off alarms in the fans' heads), and Leela scrutinizes him for a moment, but then there's kissing and all that nice stuff.

On a totally self-aggrandizing note: I do agree that the writers could've made more attempts to show the audience that Lars was Fry. But I think that the similarities between the two were downplayed in BBS as a way to service the twist ending. That's why I'm currently writing a fic that deals with BBS from Leela's point of view; I try to portray Lars as being very Fry-like (granted, in a wittier and more mature way) when he's alone with Leela, "winging it" (meaning he hasn't already seen this interaction played out before him prior to his return to 2000).

Whoops! Sorry! I was supposed to be writing about Lars. Anyway, there isn't enough of Fry in Lars to make his purpose believable. Aside from that nice moment at Elzar's he doesn't act like Fry at all. I don't care how mature how Fry would get there is no way he'd become "a bald-headed coook (is that how it's spelled?)".

But there are just little moments that, when you watch the movie again with the knowledge that Lars is Fry, seem very Fry-like. His "Up and away!" when he's dropping Hermes's head into a jar; the scene at Elzar's; the Head Museum ("What's wrong? Is the screaming depressing you?"). Then there are the dead-giveway lines like "I've always loved you". Like I said, we could've been given more of an indication that Lars was Fry, but I think the writers had to walk a fine line: if they gave us too many hints, most of us would've figured the twist out too soon, and the ending wouldn't have had the same impact. ('Course, I was one of those people who, though I recognized the whole Billy-West-does-both-voices thing, didn't realize Lars was Fry until "I've always loved you.")

What about the whole Big Score part of the title. I thought the entire episode would be a romp through time with Bender as he steals all these great treasures yet it only is made a focus through the second chapter and we only see Bender steal two things (Pharaoh Mask and East Coast/West Coast Rap Treaty). I thought guys as talented as the Futurama writers could make a big Time Travel story work.

Speaking of that, did anybody complain about how big a waste of a Time Travel story this movie is? So you have Futurama, an incredibly well written satire of Sci-Fi while at the same time great Sci-Fi show in its own right, do a movie based around time travel and only 1 period (early 2000's) is extensively visited. What a waste! BBS should have been massive in its scope. We should have been able to see the PE crew visit Rome at its height, The Jurassic Period, and other great times but its wasted on a less than great love story.

I never really looked at it as a waste; like you mention, I think the time travel was really there to provide some nice visual gags, but more importantly to create Lars. The Time Sphere is essentially a conduit for the love story (which I actually did think was pretty great). After all, the show already did a "real" time travel story, and I don't think anything could've matched the quality of "Roswell that Ends Well" without seeming like a total rehash. To me, BBS took time travel in a different, less derivative direction.

TBWaBB

First of all, why is it that the title character of the movie doesn't show up till the halfway point? Hell, if you want to get technical we don't really meet the creature (I refuse to call him (it acts like a dude, it's a him) by his name because that might make me remember the movie) until the end of the 3rd chapter so he is really only present for about 22 minutes. Movies do not work that way! You use the first 20 minutes or so introducing your characters or premise and then you get to the point.

Eh, that seems trivial to me. That's like saying that "Bender Gets Made" is a dumb title, 'cause he doesn't become a member of the mafia until act two. "The Beast With a Billion Backs" is a funny, lurid title that was meant to evoke those melodramatic titles of '50s monster movies.

Looking back I don't think I like Colleen as much as I thought I did. She's wonderfully acted by Brittany Murphy but she really doesn't have much of a purpose in the movie. Yeah, she's the reason Fry goes through the rift but she is quickly forgotten at various times (read more on my Beast inconsistencies post) so her purpose is diffused.

Colleen is so bland that I can't buy Fry would be willing to commit celestial suicide over her. Fry is the most out-of-character in this movie, IMO, and that's primarily why. If he's gonna be depressed over anyone, make it Leela (and even then, killing himself over her would be a bit extreme).  (On a somewhat unrelated note: Fry saying he loves Colleen is so ridiculous to me, and a much more annoying use of the reset button than Leela's ignorance of Fry's feelings in BBS (which was at least an established trait in her case).)

On the Rip: A hole is blasted to a parallel universe. This place could be used for anything. Alternate versions of people and places in our universe could be used or alternatively it could be a completely different universe filled with an infinite amount of possibility for new sights and characters and it's wasted on a hentai joke. A bad one! I know how funny a person found the creature is in the realm of personal opinion. Good thing I'm writing this in my post then.

Yes, but DXC has clearly stated that the writers had four missions for the four movies: one would be a time travel epic; one would be a monster movie parody; one would be a fantasy romp; and one would be a space opera. TBWaBB just happens to be the monster movie.

By the way, if the Rip was going to be used for a parallel universe it probably would have been better used for Benders Game.

That's a really great idea. However, I don't think TBWaBB could've existed if not for the anomaly, either--what with Yivo basically being his own universe and all. (However, in your case, the non-existence of TBWaBB might've been a good thing. )

I gotta say, the Creature is a complete waste of time for me. Not only did I not find it funny (only line from it I laughed at was that phone message it left (and that had more to do with imaging David Cross actually leaving that message to a girlfriend in real life), it didn't really do anything. I mean it burst through Earth's defenses (I thought that the Diamondium shield (or was it Diamondillium?) looked really cool and if the movie was good could have been an iconic image. Too bad they waste it by having the Creature tear through it), "made love" to every creature on the planet, and eventually carries all of them to live inside it and yet it still doesn't remain memorable to me.

I love David Cross but he was probably the wrong person for this role. I thought he was good for it since his comedy was always "out there" and this creature certainly qualifies as "out there" but looking back on it he's too aloof in the role. He doesn't even try to hide his voice or general personality. The Creature has no self. It is David Cross. I feel bad for saying this but his performance most reminds me of Pauly Shore's. It reeks of "I'm just here doing my job" rather that him having any real enjoyment from doing it (although, maybe he just read the script and was immediately saddened on what he would have to portray (cheap shot FTW!).

I more or less agree about David Cross, but I still think Yivo is a funny enough character, and the "having sex with everyone in the universe" thing is also disturbingly amusing. It's not the best story Futurama's ever done (which is a fair assessment of all the movies), but I thought it was a decent attempt.

BG

I agree with everything you said. To me, BG is the weakest movie by far. It just seems like a rehash of a lot of other stories that Futurama has already done (the HAL institute, in particular, seems less like a call-back and more like sloppy, lazy writing).

ItWGY

This one's my favorite movie, too. It's funny, emotional in all the right spots, subtly shippy, and ultimately satisfying.

Thanks, FOA. That was pretty damn fun, in a pathetic sort of way...

If we want to continue with much of this conversation, we might want to move it to the ship thread, because most of the complaints are leaning in that general direction. Your call, though, man.

And tnuk: Illiteracy is not funny. Unless it is. And in my case, it's hysterical.

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That's one hell of a post.

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Yeah. I think there's a direct correlation between the length of one's posts and the way one votes in that virgin poll we've got goin' on in off-topic...

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Haha. So if your posts ever get mysteriously shorter we'll know what's up

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Exactly. It'll seem classier that way.

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Gorky: It's alright. You have good reasons and for the most part its going to be an "agree to disagree" situation. I may post in the shippy section later if I feel I have anything to add. I guess I'll now post responses to specific parts of your post:

BBS- Leela's treatment of Fry: You're right about her often parading her boyfriends in front of Fry. I guess I really had more of a problem with them not interacting much in the movie due to Leela's infatuation with Lars.
Bender: I think I just wanted more of him in classic style. The core is there but I wanted more of the coating that had been built up.
Nibbler: I think they could have spared a minute in BG. The crew isn't even that shocked that he can speak in BBS. Hell, they pretty much accept it for the rest of the movie.
Lars: I pretty much knew he was Fry from the beginning so he really didn't do that much for me. Maybe he worked better on someone who didn't guess or was willing to let the story play out. I don't hate him so much as I didn't feel that much for him. Bear in mind, when I say I didn't feel for him I mean Lars. I actually quite liked the Fry 2 story and Fry's little ending line to it (It's something like "I need to do what'll make you happy, no what'll make me happy).
On the Time Travel: My problem here. Since we were getting movies I was expecting them to be pretty big. Maybe I'm just a victim of hype.

BWABB- On the Creatures Screen Time: Same as the Time Travel bit, I thought that the movie format would allow them to make it mostly about the monster. The first half is only loosely connected to the second half. Anything could have come out of that rift and left the first half intact. Again, just something I have a problem with.
Colleen: No argument here.
The Rip: I knew about the movies and the general story for each of them. That paragraph really ended up as more of a mini-review. My bad. I just think a better written story could have been on the other side.
Creature: I never really liked the idea of him being that big (especially since within the movie they constantly had to make him appear smaller than he is supposed to be) and powerful. I always had a problem with overtly strong enemies. I just think they are bad writing for some reason.

It's not the best story Futurama's ever done (which is a fair assessment of all the movies)

I have to slightly disagree with this line. As you can probably tell I think very highly of ITWGY.

On the first three movies- I never thought any of them were a bad idea. I remember thinking that a monster who has sex with everyone in the universe or the PE Crew going on a DnD quest are hilarious ideas. I just think the writers executed their ideas badly. Too many sacrifices in my opinion to make any of them work.

It's like in the commentary to 417 when they mention that they tried for a long time to make the episode about Barbados Slim and eventually gave up. I feel that if these stories were devised during the series hayday they wouldn't have made it out in their current form.

Edit: Huh. In my "review (rants count as reviews, right?)" I barely even mentioned whether I thought the movies were funny. Strange considering this is a Sci-Fi Comedy series. Well, I thought BBS was okay. As sophomoric as the humor is the first chapter of Beast made me laugh quite a bit. Between the end of the derby to the infiltration of Mom's factory along with a choice few of Zoidberg's and Roberto's lines gave me some chuckles in Game. Those are all on my first time views though. I watched all the movies at least three times (not in a row) and subsequent viewings left me silent.

Incidentally, ITWGY is the one that truly ruined the first three for me. It showed how Futurama should be done in a cinematic style (so the Mars Vegas part doesn't have much to do with the PDS segment. I consider it something of an appetizer to the main course). Every time I opened my drawer to give one of the others another chance I see ITWGY and think about how much I'd rather see it instead (which I do).

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Haha. So if your posts ever get mysteriously shorter we'll know what's up

Exactly. It'll seem classier that way.

6 words...

Wow, that was fast. Hope it was worth the wait.

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BBS
On the time travel issue, I felt time travel was used appropriately in BBS, time travel is a often a cheesy excuse to visit ancient times, which I often despise.  I'd rather have you visit one time, one place, then use this setting thoroughly.  Which is exactly what happens in BBS, and I think time travel is ingeniously used in BBS and it works (bitches).

The whole Terminator parody and the travels of period of 2000-2012 are top notch in my experience, and further travels into time would have been useless and done nothing to the plot.

As for the romance plot, I am not much of a shipper myself, so I was a bit meh about it, but I personally felt it was not the best shippy-episode of Futurama.  Even I can see that!

tBwaBB
It's funny though, this film always gets the most harm of the four.  And why?  Well, I think it is like one of my friends sort of tried to point out, the plot - or rather that of the latter part of the film - with whole love between universes may seem fun to us, but most people would just find a bit too odd.  And honestly, while I find it funny, it doesn't mean I like the idea itself.

The other problem with this film is the amount of unsolved concepts and the fact that film seems slightly unfinished.  And yeah, the reset thing from BBS was sort of odd too.  Odd in a bad way.

BG
While this film is funny, the whole change of plot thing seems rather odd to me and certainly makes my head scratch.  I like the first part of the plot with dark matter and whatnot, but the LotR thingie at the end was strange at best.

itWGY
This film is a nice one to end it off with, because it does actually do well, I know that Futurama and especially The Simpsons often have subplots, but subplots does not work well in feature-length, and the only subplot in this film makes up for the fact that it is hilarious and ends well.  The rest of the film is right on plot.  Whether that plot is actually brilliant, well, I dunno.

Another thing, sexual jokes with nothing else than being sexual are often cheap in situations where you seem to have nothing else to joke about, I fear Futurama in its entrance into films have added too many of those cheap outs to its repertoire.

And another thing about films, I don't like their length, I can easily put on an episode, but I cannot put on an entire film.  So, for more Futurama, I'd prefer them in episode length, please.

This is partly also the reason I am getting season 5 on its Volume Five cut up in episodes.  Woop.

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Definitely a virgin.

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Definitely a virgin.

Are you say FoA and Gorky must be too then?  Totally biased, Books.

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The movies were a let down for me, they just didn't measure up to the tv show.  The cast was great as ever.  I just felt the writers didn't hold up their end of the bargain.  DTV gave them more freedom and they used it to be more crude and outrageous while neglecting the depth of the characters.

Two were lousy and two were mediocre.  

BWBS was just awful.  Inter-dimensional date rape played for laughs.  Leela giving in at the end was so out of character I laughed out loud.

BG was slightly better, but still awful.  The crew seemed like two-dimensional caricatures of themselves, especially Leela.  All the gore and Leela getting off on going on a killing spree made it seem like I wasn't even watching Futurama.  I know that dark humor is in the show and this was a parody of LOR, but this was too much.  Plus, it was just lame.  

It's easy for me forget these two movies, to me they weren't Futurama, so I'm completely over them. Now for the two tales of mediocrity.

BBS was ok.  I still give it a thumbs down, but it was all-right.  Didn't like the lack of continuity with Fry and Leela.  It was boring and didn't like the silly Lars arc.  Nothing magical about it.  Since this was the first, I gave the writers a pass thinking they needed to get back in stride.

ITWGY was the best.  (Even though it had the Leela standing on Frida's murdered corpse scene which, again I feel is the most insensitive and disturbing scene in all of Futurama - I still have to say it was the best of the four.)  But it was still just ok and I was left disappointed.  To think that in what might be the last installment of this brilliant show, a silly cliche driven battle of the sexes was the storyline.  It should have been about Fry and Leela.  They had almost no interaction, as they pretty much didn't in any of the movies.  If I didn't know all about the tv show I'd swear there was nothing to their relationship.  When Leela abruptly tells Fry she loves him at the end had to the weakest pay-off to a romantic story arc I've ever seen.  It was tacked on.  Fry and Leela deserved so much more.  

I know I sound like a downer, but what can I say?  I expected the movies to be as funny,clever, and as emotionally rich as the tv show.  They weren't.  

When they return to tv, I hope they can catch lightning in a bottle again and not worry about being as outrageous as something like Family Guy.  For example, I think was Kif was killed for only one reason:  so Zapp could bang Amy.  The crew seemed like they were less fun and likable.  

Better stop rambling - I'll try to make sure my future posts are more positive - I'll focus on the brilliant 72 episode run of the original show.  Yet, there were a few episodes....  just kidding.

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Svip: On BBS- I can understand what you are saying here. One time period done right is better than a scenic view of others. But for a movie supposedly about Time Travel it isn't really used that much. The Time Travel is really only in the second chapter and is pretty much ignored for the rest of the movie only being used again by Bender at the very end (I actually haven't seen the movie in a while. I got the info on when the time code was used from The InfoSphere. Thanks!).

Nevermind that^. 319 and 410 kill my argument. I guess I just don't like the movie that much.

heyumugs: On F&L in ITWGY- What are you talking about? They are a fairly big focus in the movie. The only reason they don't interact that much is because Leela is an outlaw and Fry is undercover with Wong. But the story never let's us forget about their relationship. Leela gives a tearful goodbye to Fry, Fry mentions that Leela is "the chick he loves", Bender taps Fry because he says he is Leela's weakness, Fry is primarily protecting the PDS for Leela, Leela has a hard time believing that Fry would work for the bad guy (Wong), and Fry is ready to sacrifice himself for Leela. There's more than that but I don't feel like typing out more. Suffice it to say that their relationship is an important sub-plot to the movie.

Edit Side Note to heyumugs: I definitely agree with you that the writers screwed up on the movies and characters (though I disagree on that when it comes to ITWGY). I also agree that the actors brought their all as always but am still left disappointed with their performances (remember, I mean in the first three (ahead of the pack: If you love ITWGY so much maybe you should marry it!). I don't think it was their fault so much as the lines they had to do were mostly bad. Harrison Ford said the same thing about the voice-overs he had to do for the American Theatrical version of Blade Runner and I think it applies to the performances in the first three movies.

Extra Edit: My extensive complaining must make it seem like I'm actually trying to convince people to not like the first three movies. That is partly true.

The problem with opinions is that even if you respect someone else's you still view yours as correct. That other person is illogical compared to you. In your head it's like trying to convince somebody that your candidate in an election is obviously better than theirs and you don't know how they could possibly think different than you.

What logical reason do I have to rob people of the enjoyment they get from these movies so they could be as dissatisfied with them as I am? Fittingly enough the answer is illogical. I think that if people like the first three movies that someone on the Futurama staff will get word of it and tell the writers that they did good. That means they might think people like the style of humor or plots or characterization that was used in the movies which is a problem for me since I certainly did not.

If you like the movies more power to you. Just know that in my head you are ruining the quality of the show by praising what I deem inferior product.