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PEE Poll: Do you expect another movie, or do you believe Futurama us gone for good?
Yes, it will certainly come back!
No, it is done for.
We don't care, but we're hopeful.

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« Reply #160 on: 04-22-2009 17:18 »

Also a snail mail approach...

FOX NETWORK SHOW MAILING ADDRESSES:

The address for requests of autographs, correspondence and other questions to the stars and producers of the FOX Show you asked about:

Paper Mail address only:

(NAME SHOW HERE)
P.O. Box 900
Attn: FOX BROADCASTING Publicity Dept.
Beverly Hills, CA 90213-0900

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« Reply #161 on: 04-22-2009 17:29 »

* Books contemplates writing a letter from a dying child cancer patient whose last wish is to see Futurama one ... last ... time.
>_>
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« Reply #162 on: 04-22-2009 17:34 »

Thanks for the info, Ralph and Svip. Billy West does have a habit of jumping the gun when it comes to things like this, but I can't help but want to believe him when he says there are talks going on with the network.

Once again I have to come to Billy's defense - when he said there were 4 movies coming out and then recanted, it was because he was told by DXC on the phone the project had been given the greenlight.

Within hours DXC called Billy, read him the riot act about giving the info when FOX was going to relase the info when they wanted to in a PR blitz (yeah, right - FOX promote Futurama?) so he recanted and took a lot of crap for several months.

Billy and I sit on oppostie ends of the political spectrum and his verbal diatribes against Republicans are legendary, yet he has always been very cordial to me on his website and in person.

He took a LOT of heat from both management and fans for mentioning the 4 movies project.  As far as I know, I have been the only one who has come to his defense about this matter (something that he knows).  He use to lurk at Futurama websites but quit due to the comments about his personal character and negative comments about him.

So if he says negotiations are ongoing, I believe him.  He would have no idea the degree of the negotiations because, as he stated on C2CAM, he's just a "hired gun".

If people want to hear the interview, buy a subscription to Streamlink, because despite most people's attitudes today, all entertainment isn't free.
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« Reply #163 on: 04-22-2009 18:17 »

Wow! Who doesn't like Billy West? I didn't know that Futurama fansites said anything negative about him. What did the guy do to deserve such ire?
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« Reply #164 on: 04-22-2009 18:40 »

Wow! Who doesn't like Billy West? I didn't know that Futurama fansites said anything negative about him. What did the guy do to deserve such ire?

One disturbed PEELer immediately comes to mind.  She/he has the honor of being the only person Billy has ever placed a perma-ban on.
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« Reply #165 on: 04-22-2009 19:12 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2009 19:22 »

West's statements on Coast to Coast, unfortunately, are no more definitive than the statements that he made during his interview with Hippojuice.  Here's a transcript (he talks more about the show, but these are the comments which pertain specifically to the future of the show):

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Q:  There is room for more of these, and all of a sudden in the last 5 years these animated shows have become popular in a big way -- you have American Dad, obviously Family Guy is enjoying its greatest success -- why not bring back Futurama on a weekly basis?

BW: I think they (ed:  who?) may be talking about it; it would be really great if they did anything with it because I love the project -- I mean, to me that was the, I don't know, most fulfilling and happy-making time of my life, doing those things.  It was so much fun.

39:00

Q:  If you wanted to try to generate more interest in Futurama, how does somebody do it -- where do they email?  Who do they call, real quickly?

BW: You, uh, you email Fox.  Fox Television, 20th Century Fox.
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« Reply #166 on: 04-22-2009 21:49 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2009 21:50 »

Some (perhaps) real hope here (I know it's an article on King Of The Hill but bear with me here):

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/books/King+Hill+last+curbside+beer/1522313/story.html

...and I quote:

King of the Hill co-producer John Altschuler noted the vagaries of animation leave the door open for possible resurrection down the road. Futurama, another animated comedy that ran briefly as a companion show to The Simpsons and King of the Hill, will be back on the prime time TV schedule, after enjoying a second and third life as a series of straight-to-DVD movies. Unlike live action actors, voice actors in animated series are easier to bring back later if called upon. Also, cartoon characters don't age.


Sadly the site doesn't say where they got their source from on that information though.

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« Reply #167 on: 04-22-2009 21:52 »
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Once again I have to come to Billy's defense - when he said there were 4 movies coming out and then recanted, it was because he was told by DXC on the phone the project had been given the greenlight.

Within hours DXC called Billy, read him the riot act about giving the info when FOX was going to relase the info when they wanted to in a PR blitz (yeah, right - FOX promote Futurama?) so he recanted and took a lot of crap for several months.

Billy and I sit on oppostie ends of the political spectrum and his verbal diatribes against Republicans are legendary, yet he has always been very cordial to me on his website and in person.

He took a LOT of heat from both management and fans for mentioning the 4 movies project.  As far as I know, I have been the only one who has come to his defense about this matter (something that he knows).  He use to lurk at Futurama websites but quit due to the comments about his personal character and negative comments about him.

So if he says negotiations are ongoing, I believe him.  He would have no idea the degree of the negotiations because, as he stated on C2CAM, he's just a "hired gun".

If people want to hear the interview, buy a subscription to Streamlink, because despite most people's attitudes today, all entertainment isn't free.

I didn't mean to imply anything negative about Billy West--just that I think his optimism and enthusiasm is sometimes misplaced (but it helps to inspire the fans, which is a good thing). I've got nothing against him; from what I've heard on the Futurama commentaries and in interviews, he's an incredibly nice, good guy. Didn't mean to vilify him at all; sorry if it came off that way.

And thanks for the Fox mailing address, as well; I think snail mail probably says more to the network about fan interest, because it takes a bit more effort. I might go that route.

Edit: I think that article is just suffering from crappy writing and a lack of clarity, upside_ur_head; that bolded statement is probably a reference to Comedy Central airing the movies ("season five") in prime-time. I could be wrong, though.
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« Reply #168 on: 04-22-2009 21:58 »

Gorky: You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, bravo!
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« Reply #169 on: 04-22-2009 22:03 »

I may just have to kick the crutches out from underneath you, too, son.

Seriously, though, I noticed that article in the PEEL news feed yesterday; I was similarly excited, until I realized that some random Canadian website probably wouldn't have first dibs on something as (relatively) important as the news of the resurrection of Futurama. I'm waiting on either confirmation from the network or some strong implication from DXC before I throw my "Welcome Back (Again), Futurama!" party. The stuff we're hearing from Billy is promising, but I guess I'm eternally pessimistic.
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« Reply #170 on: 04-22-2009 22:14 »

Regardless, the Infosphere reports:

http://theinfosphere.org/Future_of_Futurama
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« Reply #171 on: 04-22-2009 22:41 »

I'd lay roughly 50-to-1 odds that the canada.com article is wrong (as of the time it was written).
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« Reply #172 on: 04-23-2009 16:25 »

Some (perhaps) real hope here (I know it's an article on King Of The Hill but bear with me here):

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/books/King+Hill+last+curbside+beer/1522313/story.html

...and I quote:

... Futurama, ... will be back on the prime time TV schedule, after enjoying a second and third life as a series of straight-to-DVD movies.

I got an email from the author of that article. He meant the chopped up direct-to-DVD episodes when he said "back on prime time".
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« Reply #173 on: 04-23-2009 16:43 »

Is he suggesting that Fox is going to air Season 5?
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« Reply #174 on: 04-23-2009 17:01 »

Some (perhaps) real hope here (I know it's an article on King Of The Hill but bear with me here):

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/books/King+Hill+last+curbside+beer/1522313/story.html

...and I quote:

... Futurama, ... will be back on the prime time TV schedule, after enjoying a second and third life as a series of straight-to-DVD movies.

I got an email from the author of that article. He meant the chopped up direct-to-DVD episodes when he said "back on prime time".

Damned!

My hopes were raised and you dashed them quite expertly, bravo!

Still, there is hope.  If it does come back, I hope either to TV or back to the episodic style.  Feature-length DVD's just don't suit Futurama's quick moving wit and humor.
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« Reply #175 on: 04-23-2009 17:23 »

 I think the writers just weren't used to writing in a feature length style. For my money I think they finally got it right with ITWGY. Still, I'd like to have the series back first. Maybe they could try their hand at movies again in a couple years.
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« Reply #176 on: 04-23-2009 17:26 »

I did feel the DVDs were weighed down by the knowledge that they'd have to be cut up into episodes, and so the storylines had pacing issues. I would like to see a feature length theatrical Futurama movie, done without the intent to chop it up, as with the Simpsons Movie, except a sci-fi epic.

Think Serenity with the Futurama cast. Better animation - proper theatrical story - big screen... it'd be awesome. I can just see the PE ship with a full texture render, rust and bolts visible, floating close past the camera in an opening shot, accompanied by a slow orchestral reworking of the theme song...
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« Reply #177 on: 04-23-2009 17:34 »

Yet, Serenity was not really en par with Firefly, so I fail to see your point.
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« Reply #178 on: 04-23-2009 17:51 »

coldangel_1: The really annoying thing about that is that Comedy Central doesn't even air the movies as separate episodes. I've never tuned in at 9 and seen BBS part 3 or anything like that. If they were just going to air them as movies they should have told the Futurama crew that so they could have written it Feature Length style.

A Futurama Theatrical film. Now that's something a man can dream about. I'd probably have an orgasm as soon as the theme boomed in.
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« Reply #179 on: 04-23-2009 18:01 »

Think Serenity with the Futurama cast. Better animation - proper theatrical story - big screen... the PE ship with a full texture render... close past the camera... accompanied by a slow orchestral reworking of the theme song...

Cold One, you and I are of the same mind.
I literally know more about the far side of the Moon than I do about Serenity/Firefly, but a cinematic Futurama epic with similarly epic story, music, and animation?
I don't think that's very likely, but hey, if you're going to dream, DREAM BIG!

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« Reply #180 on: 04-23-2009 18:02 »

Yeah, but, again, the issue comes up.  Firefly and Simpsons* rocked on TV, not really on the big screen.  You think there is a reason no sequel has been made to Serenity despite the fact that the actors signed contract for 3 films?

The Simpsons Film also showed that the Simpsons couldn't really do it self on the big screen, in fact, the marketing up to the film was a lot better than the film itself.  It is nothing new to mew to find that trailers are actually better than films.

Of course, the Simpsons was already doing "well" on TV when its film came out; that is, it had a stable TV show running.  So the film basically boosted attention for the show, and you can say slightly resurrected the show which were slowly dying.

Firefly was by the time Serenity came out already long cancelled, so the purpose of the film was a lot different.  But failed, the Simpsons Film did succeed.

Given how Futurama has the condition as Firefly, I feel a theatrical release should wait till it has renewed as a TV show.  Then maybe it has a purpose.

*Till about season 10.
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« Reply #181 on: 04-23-2009 21:18 »
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I am beginning to feel that a new TV series for Futurama is beginning to look like a no-brainer for Fox. I think the main stumbling blocks are in what form it appears and how to keep Comedy Central happy after they made an extremely large (for a cable network) payment to show Futurama. Oh, and of course money will also be an issue, it always is.

My idea is to a 3 season renewal of about 13-16 episodes each, it would give the show room to breathe and add new and add to existing layers to the show. Fox could show a new episode one week and then Comedy Central could show it a week later (in a catch up type thing where they could say, missed Futurama on Fox, watch it here!). Also with the writers knowing the length of the return they would have to keep having an open-ended ending to each season. The main thing Fox MUST do is make sure the show is shown in a stable time slot on the same day of the week that isn't likely to be pre-empted (even if it means a graveyard slot like at 11pm or 11:30pm although earlier woulkd be more preferable). This would also apply to Sky One here in the UK (although I think it's slightly less of a problem here).

A movie could then come out afterwards to tie everything in a nice big ol' bow.

Of course I'm dreaming here  :hmpf:
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« Reply #182 on: 04-24-2009 04:20 »

Yet, Serenity was not really en par with Firefly




Say fifty hail Mals for that.

Many people didn't know what Firefly was. Heaps are aware of Futurama. So STFU.
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« Reply #183 on: 04-24-2009 04:24 »

I liked Serenity just as much as any Firefly episode. In fact I would argue Serenity is the best Firefly episode yet!
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« Reply #184 on: 04-24-2009 04:36 »

Yeah! High-five, Books!
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« Reply #185 on: 04-24-2009 08:38 »

I liked Serenity just as much as any Firefly episode. In fact I would argue Serenity is the best Firefly episode yet!

Oh brilliant, let's kill off Book (someone you should be related to, Books), a character most obviously of a serious mysterious nature as established in prior episodes.  I can argue that killing Wash may or may not have been premature, but there was certainly a lot more meat on Book to kill him off so prematurely.

Serenity is also a bad introduction to the show, most people I know who have watched that film, but not Firefly are very often not very convinced by the film.  I tell them, watch the show first, then watch the film.  By which I mean, the film is not terrible or anything - it's a good film - but it lacks some of more focused pacing I preferred from the episodes.

In the episodes, you had them like on a regular day; in the film, it had to be epic.  I have yet to feel the same thing for the film that I did for the episodes.

Also, I approve of the Stephen Colbert picture!
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« Reply #186 on: 04-24-2009 08:57 »

You're gettin' me in a murderin' mood.

I can argue against everything you said. Book was left mysterious for good reason. Who he used to be wasn't who he was anymore - that was sort of his whole point; moving forward, putting the past behind, etc. Wash's death was poignant, hard-hitting, and a touch of very real human drama needed in far-flung sci-fi.

And of course it had to be epic. It was a movie. Plus it was wrapping up the ongoing plot of the show in one hit. Very very well.

I'm sorry Svip. Each to their own of course, but for me... it's one of my all-time favorite films. And it would be even without the series before it.
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« Reply #187 on: 04-24-2009 08:59 »

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« Reply #188 on: 04-24-2009 09:02 »

Get off my Internet.
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« Reply #189 on: 04-24-2009 10:13 »

Yeah, but, again, the issue comes up.  Firefly and Simpsons* rocked on TV, not really on the big screen.  You think there is a reason no sequel has been made to Serenity despite the fact that the actors signed contract for 3 films?

The Simpsons Film also showed that the Simpsons couldn't really do it self on the big screen, in fact, the marketing up to the film was a lot better than the film itself.  It is nothing new to mew to find that trailers are actually better than films.

Of course, the Simpsons was already doing "well" on TV when its film came out; that is, it had a stable TV show running.  So the film basically boosted attention for the show, and you can say slightly resurrected the show which were slowly dying.

Firefly was by the time Serenity came out already long cancelled, so the purpose of the film was a lot different.  But failed, the Simpsons Film did succeed.

Given how Futurama has the condition as Firefly, I feel a theatrical release should wait till it has renewed as a TV show.  Then maybe it has a purpose.

*Till about season 10.

This may shock you all, but Matt Groening intended the movie to be a publicity stunt. OMG.

And a Futurama theatrical film sounds awesome! It would really boost popularity for the show, and it won't be a publicity stunt: it'll be working toward a third life! They should make the movie under a different studio, then put it in cinema, then FOX will be bugged even more for a spazzy sixth season.

I can just imagine myself in a movie theatre, sitting in a chair, my eyes on the big screen watching an all-new Futurama adventure. That is everyone's dream here.
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« Reply #190 on: 04-24-2009 11:34 »

I don't trust you in the slightest without a source from a reliable source stating it.

I am not against a theatrical film myself; but I'd rather see the weekly TV show back first.
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« Reply #191 on: 04-24-2009 11:37 »

Me too. And Wikipedia doesn't count as a reliable source. Who wrote that? Maybe some Family Guy-obsessed guy who wanted revenge against all other cartoons.
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« Reply #192 on: 04-24-2009 11:39 »

Then why did you say it?  If you are disputing your own source?  I fail to understand your purpose.
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« Reply #193 on: 04-24-2009 11:41 »

I just remembered Wikipedia cannot be trusted. Why would Matt Groening be desperate enough to use the film as a publicity stunt? Hasn't it got enough viewers?
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« Reply #194 on: 04-24-2009 11:43 »

I don't think Matt Groening is that wise when it comes to PR.  I also fail to see how he can respect himself for his work, despite popular opinion, that he would create a film with his most famous characters purely for the sake of boosting popularity for the show.

If anything, this was perhaps the initial inspiration from the production company to fund the film with the outlook that it may boost their already existing TV show.
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« Reply #195 on: 04-24-2009 13:07 »

I am beginning to feel that a new TV series for Futurama is beginning to look like a no-brainer for Fox. I think the main stumbling blocks are in what form it appears and how to keep Comedy Central happy after they made an extremely large (for a cable network) payment to show Futurama. Oh, and of course money will also be an issue, it always is.

I think it's pretty likely that Fox estimates that Futurama would be profitable for at least another 2-3 seasons if they were to renew it.  The main question seems to me to be whether they're happy with that or they'd rather take a risk with new shows.  They've always seemed to me to be more aggressive than the other networks in that regard. 
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« Reply #196 on: 04-24-2009 13:31 »

Hope they're happy with more seasons, because they haven't been happy with it for ages.
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« Reply #197 on: 04-24-2009 16:06 »

Then why did you say it?  If you are disputing your own source?  I fail to understand your purpose.

At least when I post a source, it's a tad more reliable than The Weekly World News.

I answered an e-mail from another member wanting me to record the Billy West segment from Coast To Coast.  I won't do that because I am very against Pirating of any sort, I'm proud that Billy West knows my real name and refers to me by that on his site and  in e-mails.  I've also been a Coast to Coast fan, listener and guest (twice) since 1994.

The short transcript posted on this thread is what he said.  He knows negotiations of some sort are in progress but a little help from the fans may be what is needed to get over the hump.

Futurama is a very expensive cartoon.  Family Guy and American Dad are cheap in comparison. Most reality shows are cheap trash (except Mythbusters and I have no idea who labels it a reality show) but quick and easy to make, sorta like a Wendy's cheeseburger with a Pepsi.  Futurama is more like a fine Filet Minon, served with carviar and washed down with a fine wine.

I'm sure the bean counters at FOX are figuring the pros and cons of making this expensive cartoon (despite the fact that seasons 1-4 have made FOX over $100 million on DVD sales alone.)
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« Reply #198 on: 04-24-2009 16:17 »

While Futurama may be an expensive cartoon, it is not one of Fox's most expensive shows.  Well, you did specify cartoon, so I guess that renders my point slightly moot.

But still, Futurama seems to make up for that with strong DVD sales, both season 1-4 as well as the DVD films.  It is generally attributed to the timeslot on Tuesday which Futurama from "I, Roommate" and there on end to be a large reasoning for the bad Nielsen ratings the show got during its original run.

I mean, hell, "Space Pilot 3000" was the most watched pilot episode on Fox of all time at the time it aired.  When it aired on Sunday between The Simpsons and X-Files, where "Space Pilot 3000" got more viewers than either show.

My point is, and a point made numerous times in this thread, is that if Fox are serious about making Futurama a success, they have by giving it the timeslot it deserves.
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« Reply #199 on: 04-24-2009 17:16 »

If they need a timeslot why don't they just cancel American Dad.... and Family Guy.... and The Simpsons.
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