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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Don't care what anyone says, after a second viewing, this movie was bloody brilliant. Felt much more like a Futurama episode than BBS.
And, as I said in the unPEELified thread, the scene with Bender sacrificing his First-Born Son to Robot Devil is fucking Oscar-Worthy. I pissed myself laughing.
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Ryan Ro
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:And, as I said in the unPEELified thread, the scene with Bender sacrificing his First-Born Son to Robot Devil is fucking Oscar-Worthy. I pissed myself laughing. Fantastic scene. Fantastic. I think some of the responses show "different strokes for different folks." I laughed my ass off in this movie, thought the pace was great, thought it "felt" much more like Futurama than BBS in terms of delivery, character, wacky plot, still having some emotion. I'm reading that some people felt that the characterization was off, but I thought Leela was AWESOME especially after how annoyed I was with her in BBS. Some people preferred BBS. I am happy to have enjoyed Beast a great deal, because I didn't enjoy BBS very much. Most people seem to be 1 for 2 at the least, which is good. It would suck to be disappointed by BOTH movies thus far. My only gripe would be that Fry over-reacted a little bit to the Colleen issue. I mean, all the Leela crap in BBS and he kept trying. Colleen ditches him and he wants to go to another universe? Meh. But whatever. Lint trap ahoy! The league of Robots sub-plot was hilarious. I liked the little nods to BBS, particularly at the end when Leela says "You forgot about me fast enough when you met Colleen!" It's a matter of "I would have preferred the first film to really take off more from the events of DHAIP, but I'm happier with the direction the 2nd movie went in based on those events." I think it's interesting how we are all comparing Beast to Score so powerfully, when they really should stand on their own merits. It's hard not to compare. WIth the series you had 20+ episodes, if you had a stinker, you just moved on. There were lots of good episodes of different veins. Perhaps because we are only getting four movies, and their length requires more of an investment, it's harder to just accept a "lame" episode. That's one fourth of the new Futurama that is lame, not 1/22. Until I read a comment on here I didn't think the movie could be "offensive" to religion. Didn't really connect. I suppose I can see how some people of faith would find it offensive, but... I'm religious, I didn't really find anything offensive. I suppose the statement could be "a giant alien created all thoughts of heaven" could be considered offensive? I don't know. I don't watch Simpsons/Futurama expecting them to be cut from the same cloth as my beliefs. In general I think religion has gotten as much of a fair shake as it's been pinpricked. Besides, EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING gets skewered in Groening's stuff. No point in getting offended when everybody gets equal potshots. Besides, to me, I can't see it anti-religious or at all "deep" in terms of a religious commentary. The concept of heaven as a place of fluffy clouds with angels flying around and plucking harps isn't a concrete christian belief; it's a mythology based on who knows what. The bible doesn't really describe heaven or angels as such and what description is in there is open to interpretation. There are tons of ideas about the nature of the afterlife in christianity and other religions and non-religious. So what's the commentary, a very shallow jab at one fairly limited idea of an afterlife? Heck, we know there is a "God" in Futurama. YiVo being responsible for one vision of eternity does not in anyway negate the existence of God in Futurama universe. Is a statement being made that religion is equal to some tentacle monster forcing us to love it? Perhaps (I saw it as more of a scary monster movie bit), but it falls apart for me pretty quickly because...people don't fit into neat little packages. For every person who blindly follows a code of whatever kind, be it religious or anti-religious or non-religious, there are plenty of thinking, free-willed people who choose to believe what they believe. That's the funny part about people, broad stereotypes don't work when you deal with real individuals of any stripe. If anything, I would be disappointed if the writers of Futurama thought they were being deep when they stuck their toe in the shallow end of spirituality. Or if they thought they stuck it to those religious folks by, essentially, mocking a very limited, one-dimensional portrait of faith. I don't think they are, but I do think the "religious" aspects of this movie are too simplistic to be worth offense or epiphany.
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OrpheusLupus
Crustacean
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Okay, that's something I must agree on. The religous "commentary" wasn't anywhere near as deep as people seem to think it was. I loved it, don't get me wrong, but it's didn't really seem to be that big of a deal. Granted, I'm not easily offendable anyway XP (Being practically raised to embrace all forms of comedy gives one a thick skin.)
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BeeJay
Crustacean
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OK, I watched it again today. My goods, bads, and weirds still hold. And I tried to watch with an open and forgiving mind!
I guess I was looking for a unifying gag going through the entire story, such as the pulverized BOX/FOX network executives. (That was a gas! Wish they'd do that with all my old bosses.)
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NastyInThePasty
Professor
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Choice lines:
Zapp: I can't take it anymore! I'm boiling inside my own velour!
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Destructor: MY LEG FEELS FUNNY!
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Bender: No backsies!
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Amy: [sobbing] Just put a butter knife in it...!
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Amy: Take care, my teenie-greenie-weenie!
Zapp: [crossing legs] That's merely a fungal infection...oh, you're talking to Kif.
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The Baz
Bending Unit
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« Reply #258 on: 06-30-2008 04:45 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2008 04:45 »
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Excellent work, excellent fun, greatness within that DVD. I came into Beast with a Billion Backs with absolutely no idea what this movie was going to be about. I read no spoilers or even information about the plot.
Obviously the humor is much different in this movie than in Bender's Big Score. But the Futurama series has always had sort of 2 distinct styles. Sort of the difference between The Luck of the Fryish or Jurassic Bark versus the humor found in When Aliens Attack or the Fear of Bot Planet. I for one love the zany, ridiculous, professor being shanked with screwdriver gags. Even though the humor was more crude, rude, and outrageous than some of the more serious Futurama episodes or BBS it is still very smart and smartly crafted.
BwaBB left me rolling on the ground laughing. Some of the most ridiculous gags I've ever seen included the Kif funeral (thinking that Kif was dead for real), seeing a Koala tossed out of a window, Calculon's surgery, Bender launching his son into a pit of Hell, breaking up with Yivo. There were some jaw dropping gags in this movie.
At first I did not understand the "monster" idea but David Cross knocked it out of the park once Yivo was introduced. Shle was hilarious. I actually did not make any connections with religious mockery but will look for those themes when I view it again.
My biggest gripe was the ending. I really did not like the entire Bender flying to the anti-rescue and it didn't make any realistic sense... ok I shouldn't be so technical but how were the robots able to hurt/pierce/cut Yivo when before nothing could?
Bender's final dialogue to explain why he destroyed heaven for the universe was also abrupt and not entirely witty or fulfilling.
That being said, the movies non-stop flow of gags made up for the disappointing ending that felt very rushed and contrived.
IMO better than BBS. And it is always great to see new Futurama! I love that 8 years after signing up for PEEL I can come back and review NEW FUTURAMA! Well worth $20.
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OrpheusLupus
Crustacean
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About how they were able to attack Yivo: Well, it was the paper (yes I realize there's no way a paper that small could fit all those weapons). If you look really closely at the hooks when they're fired, you can just barely see pink edges on the front. Not a perfect explanation, no, but that's what it is. I can only assume Yivo can be hurt by things from his own universe.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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I waited until getting the DVD today to watch the movie. I like it quite a lot and prefer it to BBS definately. Really funny, much more of a Futurama feeling and no annoying Fry/Leela stuff or flashbacks. I have to say that intro was amazing with the Steamboat Mickey parody...
The movie started brilliantly. Lagged a bit in places, mainly the robot stuff slowed the pace down. Yivo was great and it's a trypical far out Futurama Sci-Fi plot which is exactly what I want from Futurama. Wasn't too keen on the plot twist for the last 20 minuutes or so, but it was still alright. Zapp and Kif were great, the animation was better than the first movie. Not perfect but there were a few scenes which wowed me in this one unlike the first movie. Voice acting was all spot on. Overall really good movie but not as good as the TV series...
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KurtPikachu2001
Urban Legend
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I got BWABB this past weekend! Here's my review:
This Futurama movie was better and more fun than Bender's Big Score! Things that were cool were the Deathball matches, Farnsworth and Wernstrum reluctantly becoming friends, Fry, Zoidberg, and everyone else becoming under Yivo's control, Amy's wedding, Fry's relationship with Colleen, and Zapp, Leela, and Amy working together! The best of all was Bender! I loved the Robot Justice League! Bender was dynamite in this one! A fun and fantastic thrill ride for any Futurama fan! I also like the Lost Adventure and deleted scenes as well. Even Yivo was funny. It was awesome to see Amy's parents, Harold Zoid, robots from past episodes, Pazuzu, Robot Devil, Hedonism Bot, Calculon, and other favorites too! Hope Kiff and Amy get back together. I give BWABB 5/5!
Here's looking forward to Bender's Game!
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OrpheusLupus
Crustacean
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Probably. There's still that hole in it, but it is the official explanation as far as we know now XP
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chocobeano
Crustacean
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I'm so excited to see this movie! Boo being out of the country though Sad I was seeing a lot of negative feedback leading up to the release including people who claimed to have seen leaks, but now I'm seeing mostly positive reviews. Well here's what I found from readexpress.com's review... "Beast's" biggest flaw is its length. While the first hour is engaging and entertaining, the final half hour drags. But this one also leaves a much easier place for the next film to pick up — and it doesn't end nearly as open-ended as "Big Score" did. Do you guys agree? I'm trying to get people's feedback on the movie without catching any spoilers, so I'm rather afraid to read some posts haha. Hopefully I don't get flamed for pasting a link, though this forum seems to allow it. www.ilovebender.com the official dvd site =D
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THM
Bending Unit
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Having seen it, I can say...neat. (Here follows my thoughts. I'm sure I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said several times already, but what the hell! ) They sure did up the gross-out factor, though, didn't they? I spent most of the movie either laughing out loud, or going 'Aw man, now that's just nasty!' (stuff like Kiff's bouquet(sic) especially) Overall, stellar stuff. Fun from one end to the other, and very few niggles. Kind of a pity that the Fry-Coleen relationship seemed to be over so quickly, but then again, even Fry has some standards. Also on the relationship front, kinda odd that they married Amy and Kiff off, and then broke them up, but the whole thing was very Amy - if she thought Kiff was dead, she *would* do something like that. I wasn't sure how Bender's subplot would tie in, but the idea of his jealousy for anything that takes attention away from him (and Fry away from him especially, awww) did the job nicely. Nice to see that Fry can make relationship mistakes not at all linked with a certain purple-head. (Though I have to say, it was kinda odd that Leela waited until the very end to discover A) she loved Yivo, too, and B) she wasn't that happy with Fry/Coleen) And perhaps the most interesting thing of all was Fry as a villain (the scene in the 'church' with Coleen); you wouldn't think a guy like Fry has it in him to be evil (unscrupulous, yeah, bad, maybe, but not evil), but in that context, it worked like a treat. Definitely worth the wait.
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Bubble Gum
Bending Unit
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I dont find the difference of opinions on BBS and BWBB all that suprising. BBS had the Fry/Leela love story for the romantic story line fan, but BWBB was just a crazy sci-fi flick. I loved both of them, both are very rewatchable. Also..... It is shown in the Newscast that 1 month has passed from when the rift had opened up, so that plays into the Fry/Girlfriend relationship. They got it on cause they thought the world was going to end, and when it didn't they developed it from there. As far as some of my favorite things from BWBB: Profesor: "Its electro-matter, regular matters bad-ass Grandma!"
Zoidberg|: "Hooray! I love the Tentacle!"
Two Words: Honkey Kong
Wernstrom: "Stop, In the Name Of Love!"
Lots of Zapp and Calculon
Classic Bender
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