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ChronoSerge

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I like the ideao of 4 full length movies  hopefully this really is 'full length' like the family guy movie (I was not too impressed by that movie though) I also hope they include some special features like commentary  It would be really cool if at least one of the DVD's had a 'Tales of Interest' short.
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Skyman

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Then I'd better use my inkpouch to escape my enemies! Woop woop woop woop!
Seriously though, if I could see a way for the writers to sustain 4 movies and possibly more episodes with Fry and Leela together I'd like it. I just don't really see how it'd work, and think them really getting together will probably have to happen at the end of the series.
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H. G. Blob

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Originally posted by Skyman: Then I'd better use my inkpouch to escape my enemies! Woop woop woop woop!
Seriously though, if I could see a way for the writers to sustain 4 movies and possibly more episodes with Fry and Leela together I'd like it. I just don't really see how it'd work, and think them really getting together will probably have to happen at the end of the series. I think you underestimate the writers on Futurama. The Simpsons are up to its 20th (or so) season and its only started to go down hill about 2-3 years ago. But even with that fact I'm still waiting on the new ones to start airing. I've only seen previews but it looks like Homer has a robot butt of barts and he is also being chased my Mr. Burns while being shot at. Can't wait.
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DotheBartman

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I'm not really sure I get the sentiment that the show would run out of ideas if it ran for a few more seasons. Anything is possible on this show after all, and I think there were more than enough possibilities to run the show through many more seasons. Hell, the last two produced seasons were easily the best in innovation and unique ideas, and I think it would have only gotten better for a while if there had been 5ACV, 6ACV, etc runs. Now, if Futurama went for over 360 episodes, then yeah, it would probably start to slow in the fresh ideas department. But four seasons? That's not really all that much.
And also, if the show eventually jumped the shark or otherwise slid in quality down the line, it would still be worth it if there were quality seasons beforehand. If, say, it went for four more seasons and the first two were awesome, that would be worth it even if the last two started to drag, especcially if the movies were also excellent. I don't want the show to JTS, but at the same time I want more Futurama excellence, not less. And while I could see Futurama eventually slipping a little, I can't see it ever becoming some horrible show, just maybe uneven at some point. The Simpsons finally slipped when someone who didn't understand it took it over for four years. I get the impression that David Cohen at least always intended to run Futurama, so no huge issue there.
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DrThunder88

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I have always believed that Futurama always had a lower potential for being forced into using hackneyed, TV crap to sustain itself than the Simpsons. And like the man said, Futurama is nowhere near any sort of cartilaginous fish aerobatics. Even if it did slide after a few years, it would still have started out strong enough to be "good" for a few years after that.
Oh, and the Simpsons started to slide when the season numbers were still in single digits.
Did you skyman-kickers read the rest of his post? I agree, it would be better for there to be more and larger obstacles to their relationship that the "once an episode" breakthroughs that are generally forgotten the next week. Frankly, I think both characters have personal issues that they need to work out before they can have a functioning relationship. And I further think the best way for them to do that is outside of "the inevitable."
But would that make a good feature-length, Futurama movie? I'd see it because it'd be Futurama...
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ShaBuBu
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I dont mind Fry and leela's romance but I just hate the eps where Fry keeps asking and she says 'no' and he continues.
Also, DotheBartman, who took over the Simpsons for 4 years?
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« Reply #173 on: 02-01-2006 09:13 »
« Last Edit on: 02-01-2006 09:13 »
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I'll echo DotheBartman's sentiment and say that a new season or two of good Futurama content would be well worth a few subsequent seasons of subpar episodes. I stopped watching new Simpsons episodes (religiously, at least) a few years ago but that doesn't make me enjoy the episodes in my DVD collection any less. I also think that the creators/writers on Futurama are talented enough to keep the show interesting for more than another season or two. My only concern would be the team writing themselves into a corner, so to speak, believing that this reported movie commitment will be the last content ever produced only to have Fox pick up the series if/when the movies are successful.
DrThunder88: I half-agree, half-disagree with your assessment of the Simpson's slide. I believe the show hit its peak rather quickly during the Reiss-Jean seasons of 3 and 4 and was more or less able to maintain that level through the Mirkin, Oakley, and Weinstein years. (Which takes us through season 8, I think.) I'd agree that there was a slight (emphasis on slight) drop in quality during Mike Scully's tenure as show runner, but I'd argue there were still plenty of quality episodes during his first couple seasons. The quality was really starting to drop off in seasons 11-12, and it didn’t really fall off the cliff in my eyes until season 13 or so when Jean began his second stint as exec producer. (I’m not trying to assign credit/blame to any of these gentlemen, mind you, just using them as rough time gauges.) Just the opinion of a random internet-geek.
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Skyman

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Yeah - if anyone can sustain the show for a long time (or manage the Fry-Leela relationship well) it's the Futurama writers. And it does seem like this show is more Matt Groening and David Cohen's 'baby' than Simpsons - I doubt they'll give up control and let it slide as much as Simpsons did.
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DotheBartman

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Originally posted by ShaBuBu:
Also, DotheBartman, who took over the Simpsons for 4 years? Mike Scully, seasons 9-12. Currently (seasons 13+) the show is run by Al Jean. Opinions on the time of decline differ obviously (notice NukeLaLoosh feels that the Jean episodes are the worst), but personally I always regard Scully's as the worst, and Jean's as imperfect but nonetheless mostly a return to form, and a return to it being a good/decent show again. Either way, though, the point is The Simpsons changed a lot because of different showrunners every couple seasons or so. Groening's always been involved on some level, but the style and quality still tends to change a lot with the changes in showrunner. With Futurama it would (I'm guessing, anyway) be less of an issue because I get the impression that David Cohen would have been heavily involved til the end, so there's a reduced risk of someone who just doesn't get it taking it over.
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Rhodan

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Originally posted by DotheBartman: Mike Scully, seasons 9-12. Currently (seasons 13+) the show is run by Al Jean. Opinions on the time of decline differ obviously (notice NukeLaLoosh feels that the Jean episodes are the worst), but personally I always regard Scully's as the worst, and Jean's as imperfect but nonetheless mostly a return to form, and a return to it being a good/decent show again.
Either way, though, the point is The Simpsons changed a lot because of different showrunners every couple seasons or so. Groening's always been involved on some level, but the style and quality still tends to change a lot with the changes in showrunner. With Futurama it would (I'm guessing, anyway) be less of an issue because I get the impression that David Cohen would have been heavily involved til the end, so there's a reduced risk of someone who just doesn't get it taking it over. My thoughts exactly (and as a side note i think that best era of Simpsons was probably David Mirkin era -seasons 5 and 6). Futuram is indeed very different, probebly should stay fresh for another 6 or 7 seasons.
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TriggerHappyJim

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What are you talking about man!
This is FAR better than some lame ass Friends movie!
Friends is boring. I'm sick of Friends and bringing it back would be terrible.
CMON BABY! 4 MORE MOVIES!
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TriggerHappyJim

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Now that is bullshit. You have your wires crossed mate.
Or are you doing that deliberately? I'm no good at noticing sarcasm when it seems obvious.
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loner
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I think Futurama gets a lot less flak from critics than The Simpsons for the very reason that it was cut just as it was reaching a climax in quality, whereas the Simpsons has been running so long that, even for a writing team as talented as the folk at Simpsons, it became pretty hard to come up with fresh ideas each subsequent episode.
This news of four new Futurama _movies_ is fantastic, and I'm sure it'll work out great -- Futurama has always relied not just on comedy but on the kind of epic storylines you'd expect of any good science fiction novel, so the nerds on the Futurama writing staff should really be able to deliver the goods on them! And it would be great if this gets Futurama a spot back on the air. But all shows must come to an end some time, and I hope, when that day comes, that Futurama will be able to step down with grace.
Until then, I'll be waiting for those movies with great anticipation. :-)
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« Reply #191 on: 02-14-2006 21:54 »
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Wow.. FOUR movies... that's almost FIVE movies! Wow... I wonder what they will be about. Will they introduce new characters or just re-use the old ones. Hopefully we see a Robot Devil or Robot Santa one. To FOX for cancelling futurama- *  * To FOX for making four movies- *  * To FOX for making the Family Guy movie- *  *
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SpaceCase

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Originally posted by soylentOrange: its kinda weird though. we got that message from Billy West that the movies were a go... and then nothing after that. We're back in radio blackout mode. Come on F*x, make the danged movies official already! Remember, we are talking about F*x here... What? You want 'em too make sense? Originally posted by commie detector: don't you realize that smileys show through spoilers? <Bender. Obviously not...  </Bender>
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Aristobulus

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Originally posted by soylentOrange: its kinda weird though. we got that message from Billy West that the movies were a go... and then nothing after that. We're back in radio blackout mode. Come on F*x, make the danged movies official already! West only said that they'd be making it in the summer, not that they'd be released in the summer. Thus, it's safe to assume no work has yet to be put into actually creating the movies, so there's no announcement aside from that. As for the content of the movies, of course I'd like there to be some shipper stuff but..I'd also like there to be something that *sticks*, and I don't mean in a mental sense to the person who watched the movie. I mean, I hope for something that stays as a constant and true after the movie - let me use an example to show what I mean. In 'The Sting'..by the end of it, Leela really should've been apprecating herself, her life, and Fry all the more. She seems to, but only in that episode. By the very next episode, it feels like that never happened. She's just as reckless about her life, and doesn't seem to be any closer to Fry than before. It's kindof awkward, to say the least.
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ShaBuBu
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That is why the Sting should have been the final, it was a much more organised and funny episode.
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HW

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Originally posted by Sal: Ofcourse everyone here wants to see a Freinds movie rather than a Futurama movie. Futurama finished gracfull and tied everything up. Frinds had some many storys left to tell. You should start to repect that if you want to remain welcome here. NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO with Friends! BBOOOOOOOO! Death with FRIENDS! Hail Futurama!
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