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FOX wanted a 'Jetsons' type show according to Groening. Futurama is perverted at times (constant talk about Fry masterbating, Bender viewing Robot porn and hanging with Hookerbots, Amy being 'easy'). Leela has a penchant for being extremely violent at a second's notice - she has been physically and verbally abusive towards every other member of the show at some point. Constant bathroom jokes at The Professors's expense (his lack of control of his bodily functions). Almost all the characters are dysfunctional in some way - Fry is stupid; Leela is bossy, has low self esteem and is prone to violence - Leela also has a VERY dark side that comes out occasionaly. Amy is constantly in search of one night stands; Zoidberg is just not popular no matter what he does, etc.
Futurama has just the right mixture of brilliance and tastelessness for me. Whatever FOX wanted, I'm glad that Matt stuck to his guns and gave us the Futurama that we got.
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futurefreak
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Leela's also a drinker like the rest of them
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Originally posted by futurefreak: Leela's also a drinker like the rest of them OH DEAR GOD! LEELA DRINKS! They all drink. The scene in 'The Howling', when Fry is trying to help a mangled Bender and asks 'Does anyone have any liquor?', everybody offers a bottle. I have Bender and Fry pegged as beer drinkers. Leela probably likes wine and cham-paggen. Amy likes those fruity Zima-type drinks. The Professor, Hermes and Scruffy probably like whiskey and scotch. I personally like Budweiser beer, Famous Grouse Scotch and Jack Daniels.
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Teral
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From "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurddles"...
Leela: (whispering) "Bring beer."
Definetely a beer drinker, afterall she's been brewing it herself since her childhood at Cookievile.
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Ralph Snart
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« Reply #8 on: 09-28-2005 03:39 »
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Originally posted by Teral: From "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurddles"...
Leela: (whispering) "Bring beer."
Definetely a beer drinker, afterall she's been brewing it herself since her childhood at Cookievile. Ah, but I'm as big a Leela fan as you, and in TKOS, she was really impressed by Fry's offer of non-vintage, domestic champange. Then again, she may not be choosy - any booze is fine - especially FREE booze.
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futurefreak
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart: OH DEAR GOD! LEELA DRINKS!
They all drink. Originally posted by futurefreak: Leela's also a drinker like the rest of them 'nuff said also though...I'd like to see a drunk professor.
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Ralph Snart
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Originally posted by Venus: I would have loved to have seen her really drunk though. I'm sure hilarity would ensue. Yeah, I can see Leela being a totally different person when drunk - she always has such a tight control over her emotions. A flirtatous Leela, with the morals of Amy (or Bender) and her temper unleashed - man, what an ep that would be.
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Teral
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001: Would anyone watch Futurama if it were the kind of show FOX wanted? Yes, people would watch it. Noone here would, but people would. Probably the same kind of people who watch Loonatics Unleashed. I wouldn't. I got sick of "The Amazing Adventurs of Captain Whacky", why would I watch "The Amazing Adventurs of Captain Whacky in the Future"? I'm thankful that Groening told FOX to stuff it, and produced the show according to his own vision and not what FOX wanted. If you produce shows, constantly thinking; "will people like this? Is this what they want?" you're probably heading down that nice road called "Good Intentions" and we all know where that ends, right? This reminds me of a quote I posted here in GD eons ago. In an interview once, Gene Roddenberry (everybody hopefully heard of him) was asked if feedback from the viewers helped him develop and improve on Star Trek, his answer was: Originally said by Gene Roddenberry: "While I listen to the audience, one of the secrets of whatever success I've amounted to was that I never make shows for the audience. I listen to good advice, but the only person I make shows for is myself. I love any help you can give me, but I'll be damned if I'll make a show for you! I make it for myself, and if you happen to like it, I'm delighted that you do, and great; we've got the best of both possible worlds. Writers and producers and directors and so on that create a show for specific audiences do schlock work. They should do selfish work, proudly selfish work, and that happens to be true about painter and sculptors, too.
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart: Ah, but I'm as big a Leela fan as you, and in TKOS, she was really impressed by Fry's offer of non-vintage, domestic champange.
Then again, she may not be choosy - any booze is fine - especially FREE booze.
But she made it clear she wasn't too keen on tequila.
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Originally posted by Smitty: But she made it clear she wasn't too keen on tequila. That's just good taste. The sickest that I've ever been was off of Tequila. Paint thinner is more appetizing than Tequila.
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Originally posted by Kryten: You say "perverted, ultra-violent and vulgar" like it's a bad thing. Hey, it works for me.
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If Futurama was what Fox had wanted, people would have watched it. It would probably still be on the air, but I'd feel really bad for Matt Groening. I mean, no guy deserves to have two crappy shows airing on the same network on the same night!
Member of the "So...what, is this, like, the 57th season of the Simpsons?" club since 2004
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DotheBartman
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« Reply #23 on: 09-29-2005 19:00 »
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Actually, if it had been nothing but a mindless Simpsons clone it probably would have died faster, as proved by Family Guy (the recent comeback notwithstanding, and I think Fox may come to regret that comeback in a year or two anyway). By being a different show, it earned Fox's contempt but managed to carve out it's own niche of dedicated viewers, which is what kept it on as long as it managed to stay on. If it had been a Simpsons clone, everyone would have said "been there, done that" and no one would have watched it.
In any case, the reality at this point is that good, innovative shows probably just can't be successful on the main free-air networks anymore, unless they've been already been on since before that reality became evident (like Simpsons, SNL, etc). Even if they audience doesn't bail, the network will. Cable is the only place now for good shows that don't date back to at least the 1980's.
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If Futurama was what Fox wanted it to be, it would be a reality show, where 12 hopefuls would compete to win $50,000. What happens is they leave their friends and family in order to get frozen and defrosted 1000 years in the future. They get trained to go into space, which is common at this time, and have to compete in meaningless tasks which have nothing to do with anything, except that Fox can open premium rate phone lines so you can vote off your least favorite astronout. The loser gets ejected into space, and blows up under the pressure of nothingness. However, what they don't know is that they aren't in the future at all! They're in a poorly built cardboard set on a grotty old studio in the middle of Texes. They weren't on Mars! The losers just fell a few feet off camera and the explotion was CGI. Afterwards, they all return to their normal lives, just the same as before, but with added riticule and embaresment. Wasn't that great? I'm ready for my promotion to Head Of The Network now! The majority of Fox veiwers: How Funny! Us:
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Thank God Matt Groening was smart enough to do his own thing. I don't know what I would do with my spare time if Futurama were different. Probably eat...
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