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Topic: The Leela Zone
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
 
 Since: Feb 2003
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posted 09-27-2005 13:56 |
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quote:
Originally posted by btyrie:
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!TLZ is back online.
YAY!
quote:
Originally posted by btyrie:
It's down again.
<Zoidberg>
Aww...
</Zoidberg>
 *Sigh* Alright, which one'a you hid my medicinal chocolate?
I wish there was something I could do to help Graham, Leandro, et al, but I can barely spell HTML...
But there is a silver lining; Zed, if you see this, I should have something for you by the end of the weekend.
God willing ,and the river don't rise... Yeah, I know they'll get it back on-line sooner or later, but FM:TLZ being off-line just bites.  <Edit>
TOTPD? I don't think so. How'z about a TOTP-shuffle?  [This message has been edited by SpaceCase (edited 09-27-2005).]
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Demeter
Starship Captain
 Since: Aug 2005
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posted 09-27-2005 23:33 |
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The Leela Zone's my homepage. One day I'm hoping to open it up and find it working again. Ah well. And actually now I think about it this all started when Graham said he'd be doing less work and setting up some minor Webmasters/mistreses(I can't spell and I know it)
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Zed 85
Space Pope
 
 Since: Dec 2001
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posted 09-28-2005 12:53 |
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Major W00tage! I can't wait SC
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 09-28-2005 13:20 |
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
Major W00tage! I can't wait SC
W00tage? Hold on there Kemo-sabe'*. You're a mite too enthusiastic to read my humble ramblings...
Or however you spell what Tonto called the Lone Ranger. To steal borrow a line from 'Red;
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Originally posted by BIG RED:
Okay, no more chocolate for you.
I'll do my best to have the first part done for you by the close of the weekend.Later... 
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 09-28-2005 13:28 |
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Darn! I didn't mean to do this...  [This message has been edited by SpaceCase (edited 09-28-2005).]
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coolfred10
Poppler
Since: Aug 2005
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posted 09-30-2005 14:43 |
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What is going on with Futurama Madhouse ???For those who want to read Fanfics, I had some from TLZ that I had found somewere on my computer in pdf format. I made a little page here : http://coolfred.mlnfm.com/bkp/ If other persons have fanfics backups or evrything else (FanArt) don't hesitate to send me them by email. [This message has been edited by coolfred10 (edited 09-30-2005).]
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 09-30-2005 16:52 |
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Originally posted by coolfred10:
... If other persons have fanfics backups or evrything else (FanArt) don't hesitate to send me them by email...
I have megabytes worth of other's fanfiction.
For my personal consumption only I'd love to help, but shouldn't you get the fic author(s) permission first?
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Zed 85
Space Pope
Since: Dec 2001
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posted 10-01-2005 16:33 |
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quote:
Originally posted by SpaceCase:
quote:
Originally posted by Zed 85:
Major W00tage! I can't wait SC
W00tage? Hold on there Kemo-sabe'*. You're a mite too enthusiastic to read my humble ramblings...
Or however you spell what Tonto called the Lone Ranger. To steal borrow a line from 'Red;
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Originally posted by BIG RED:
Okay, no more chocolate for you.
I'll do my best to have the first part done for you by the close of the weekend.Later...
Well, some of the things Venus pointed out in her review raised extremely important points, so I'm desperate for other people's opinion on the matter.
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Venus
Urban Legend
 
Since: Sep 2001
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posted 10-01-2005 17:44 |
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Hurray i'm helping!
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Kryten
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
Since: Aug 2000
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posted 10-01-2005 22:18 |
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...and it's up again.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 10-01-2005 23:21 |
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Originally posted by Kryten:
...and it's up again.
Thank you Jesus!Also, Kif, Graham, Leandro, et al...  <Leaves for FM:TLZ>
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Spy
Starship Captain
Since: Sep 2005
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posted 10-02-2005 05:18 |
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It's a top site. I'm glad its back up.
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Zed 85
Space Pope
Since: Dec 2001
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posted 10-02-2005 18:20 |
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Originally posted by Venus:
Hurray i'm helping!
Absolutely!
Great help, cheers I'm still not 100% relaxed on TLZ just yet, once I see a new update, I'll feel better. Not that that's demanding anything, but when one comes, I can believe it may be back for good (or for the near future at least)
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Kif White
Bending Unit
Since: Jul 2002
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posted 10-03-2005 05:40 |
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Okay, long story short... it's back up at the moment because it's the start of the month. Seems that our host is being rather picky about our monthly bandwith usage lately, so the more people visit, the quicker the site'll go down again in the latter part of each month.Rest assured, we're looking into making sure this doesn't continue for long.
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morbo_it
Bending Unit
Since: Nov 2004
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posted 10-03-2005 07:35 |
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i mean, hooray, it's back online![This message has been edited by morbo_it (edited 10-03-2005).]
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Alex
Bending Unit
Since: Sep 2003
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posted 10-03-2005 09:33 |
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TLZ being back up - a helluva lot better than nothing.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 10-03-2005 13:34 |
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
... I'm still not 100% relaxed on TLZ just yet, once I see a new update, I'll feel better... but when one comes, I can believe it may be back for good...
<Point's at Zed>
What he said!
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Originally posted by Kif White:
... Seems that our host is being rather picky about our monthly bandwith usage lately, so the more people visit, the quicker the site'll go down again in the latter part of each month...
<Bender>
Why those dirty, double-crossing, B@$+@RDS!
</Bender>  That just seems counterintuitive to me.Doesn't TLZ draw business to the provider, or am I missing something?
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
Since: Mar 2004
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posted 10-06-2005 17:52 |
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Good to see it back. Now only if it has some updates...
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Leandro
Starship Captain
Since: May 2000
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posted 10-11-2005 20:20 |
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I posted today on why we don't update. As for the bandwidth usage: the new server allocated us 50GB per month. We've already used 22GB in *ten days*. We pretty much need a solution to this hosting problem or the site may very well end up dead for real.
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Ol'coot
Bending Unit
Since: Oct 2003
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posted 10-11-2005 22:14 |
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Originally posted by Leandro:
We pretty much need a solution to this hosting problem or the site may very well end up dead for real.
That would be a huge loss Leandro. I hope you can find a solution to the server problems! 
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Your's just jealous because the voices are talking to me
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Ralph Snart
Urban Legend
Since: Jul 2005
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posted 10-11-2005 22:30 |
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An e-mail that I just sent to Leandro after reading the message in the update section:
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Man, I hate reading what you posted on FM/TLZ; I just found Futurama this May and have fallen in love with the series. I lucked out and found your site and PEEL; the enjoyment that both sites have bought me can't be expressed in a mere e-mail. Let's just say that I've enjoyed everything about FM; the fan fics, the graphic guides to the eps, the fan art, everything. It will be a shame if it goes down forever - there is no other site with the content FM.
I would offer my services but I'm a medical person, not a techie, so I would be more in the way than I would be helping. Let me just say 'Thanks' for keeping the site up and going as long as you have.
I have mentioned to Teral about possibly instituting a area to the site to be a 'pay site', but he stated that would be going against what fan sites are about. (A noble mindset, Teral - plus internet folk tend to balk at pay sites, except porn and 'filthy, filthy chatrooms').
I hope that maybe one of the fans read your update and has a trick or two up their sleeve that can save FM; once again it would be a shame to let it languish not updated or worse, die.
Thanks for the enjoyment!-------- So if the bunch of us put our heads together, can we find a way to assist Leandro and company to keep from losing yet ANOTHER site to the ravages of time? ------------------
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M0le
Urban Legend
Since: Nov 2003
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posted 10-11-2005 23:58 |
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Donations?
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Venus
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2001
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posted 10-12-2005 00:22 |
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Can't they just completely leave the server they have now and search out one that meets their needs?
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Ralph Snart
Urban Legend
Since: Jul 2005
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posted 10-12-2005 00:37 |
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Well Venus, according to Teral, the server that they are using now is suppose to be one of the best for FM's purposes. I'm sure that 40 gigs of bandwidth and 800 megs of storage space isn't too cheap to rent; and running a site is time consuming affair - Graham has stated that webmasters get enormous amounts of spam and virii sent to them daily.I guess that there are no easy fixes, but we can hope for one. ------------------
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JavieR
Starship Captain
Since: Dec 2001
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posted 10-12-2005 12:44 |
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I see that FM is having some deep problems and I know that is hard to find a Host that can meet your requeriments (I also had problems with the lack of bandwith).
I was looking for cheap hosting, and I end up with one called http://www.bluehost.com :
Best mySQL Database Host
FREE Domain Included
100 Gigs Bandwidth
4 Gigs Web Space, for $6.95 month.
(Price from [URL]http://www.100best-free-web-space.com/
[/URL])I know that there is a lot more issues than jus changing hosts... :s so I hope to see FM running again shortly
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JavieR
[ TFP :: The Futurama Point ]
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Marcus
Starship Captain
Since: Jul 2001
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posted 10-12-2005 18:14 |
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ooo... this all leaves a cold, horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Hope Leandro, Graham et al. can find a solution - web wouldn't be the same with a TLZ:FM-shaped hole in it!
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Demeter
Starship Captain
Since: Aug 2005
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posted 10-12-2005 19:33 |
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Excaltally... I think there has to be a way to keep the site...But how?
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Venus
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2001
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posted 10-12-2005 20:17 |
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One option that was given in the update on the site was the possibility of having to delete some old content. If it absolutely has to come down to that i'd suggest deleting the art and fiction that's rated the lowest. Then at the very least they could advertise quality content. But that would also involve fixing the rating system so that people could only rate a story or picture once. Otherwise artists and writers would go and vote for themselves over and over as well as rating everyone else lowly to wreak their scores.
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Spacedal11
Urban Legend
Since: Mar 2004
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posted 10-12-2005 23:10 |
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Why not delete sections? Like, I didn't even know there was a chat room in that site for a long time. And I almost never go to the section about the blueprints of PE. Would that clear more room? Cause I think that if we deleted personal things, such as fan fiction and art, some people would be insult and hurt. (Trust me I wish some of those artist would get lost). I haven't been to FM for a while so I can't be very specific about parts of the sites that seem least useful. But I'm not the greatest techie so I wouldn't know what would or would work.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
Since: Feb 2003
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posted 10-12-2005 23:51 |
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There are things afoot behind the scenes going on to keep FM:TLZ going. Delete content? BLASPHEMY! I know for a fact Leandro has an offer in-had to pay for a year's worth of webhosting to keep FM:TLZ afloat.
And, just for the record, no, it is not from me.
Leandro has not accepted the offer, because (as I understand it) he thinks it's unfair to burden one person with the entire cost.
Fine. I can respect this. As Ralph, and MOLe alluded, would anyone besides me be willing to donate money to FM:TLZ for web-space to keep it going? @ the FM:TLZ crew:
Thank you x 10e19 for keeping FM:TLZ a "going concern."
Keep up the good work!
I'll shut up now...
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Venus
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2001
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posted 10-13-2005 01:15 |
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
Delete content? BLASPHEMY!
Not the happiest of solutions, i know. But in a choice between losing the whole site for good or just losing the crap, i'd take just losing the crap.
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Ralph Snart
Urban Legend
Since: Jul 2005
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posted 10-13-2005 01:23 |
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Too many of us take for granted what is available on a daily basis and don't think about it. Everybody knows by now that I'm a noob - I've only known Futurama since May 2005 - the only sites that I know about are FM/TLZ, Can't Get Enough Amy Wong, CGEF, the adult Turanga Pages and PEEL. There may be some minor sites, but they aren't updated, so I consider them dead. A lot of people have taken time to welcome me to the community, and Teral informed me just recently that at the peak of Futuramamania, there were dozens of sites running with frequent updates - that there were sites dedicated to each of the characters (even Zoidberg!). We're now down to a handful of active sites - these sites are the only thing that keeps the Futurama community connected and alive. This is really sad that so many sites have died, but running a website takes knowledge, time and money. Some people get tired of running the sites, others find other priorities in life (marriage, children, health concerns, etc), so the site falls to the wayside. Unfortunately, that leaves us in the community without the diversity that several sites can give. The point of my rambling message is: How many of us are quick to point out that a site doesn't update often enough, or may go offline at times, or complain about the content that doesn't suit us, yet have never sent the webmasters and owners a quick note thanking them for their efforts (time, knowledge and out of pocket expenses) to give us the gift of using the sites for our entertainment?I know that I'm vocal about thanking marc for this site, and for the mods for being hardasses to keep PEEL running (and yes, even I have had threads killed - the mods have their reasons so I don't take it personally). I also have been in contact with Leandro and thanked him for his efforts and offered my assistance (what little I can offer) to keep FM/TLZ running. It would be a shame if we lost one of the few large, still alive sites; be proactive in trying to save our sites - let the webmasters, the administrators know that their efforts are appreciated. A little 'Thank you' here and there may be what keeps a frustrated webmaster from saying 'Screw the site, I'm going with blackjack, and hookers'. So a big 'Thanks' to the guys of FM/TLZ from me. Leandro, Kif, Terel, Graham (and any others that I missed) for your time, efforts and sacrifices to make the site what it is. The same thing to be said at this site, PEEL. Thanks to -marc- for being the administrator. Thanks to Tweek, Nixorbo, Kryten, Velour Fog and the other mods; you guys patrol this board and keep threads on-topic; close inappropriate threads and basically keep the peace - without you guys PEEL wouldn't last long as civility would break down; a handful of users would destroy this board that so many appreciate. Think about it people - how many of us don't think about and don't appreciate the efforts of others? I know I was one until recently. End of sermon (Ralph steps off of soapbox). ------------------
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Venus
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2001
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posted 10-13-2005 01:28 |
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The adult Turanga pages? Are you serious? I'm intrigued and terrified both at the same time. Fry: (sing songy) Leela's got a porn page! Leela: (horrified) No i don't! [This message has been edited by Venus (edited 10-13-2005).]
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Ralph Snart
Urban Legend
Since: Jul 2005
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posted 10-13-2005 01:47 |
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Originally posted by Venus:
The adult Turanga pages? Are you serious? I'm intrigued and terrified both at the same time. Fry: (sing songy) Leela's got a porn page! Leela: (horrified) No i don't!
hahahahahahaha. I can see in my (small) mind that verbal exchange happening on an ep. i can also see the disgusted look on Leela's face. I wonder if Leela's porn page resides next to "Amy Wong Naked" pictures (although it's only Amy's head on somebody else's body - Leela: "HEY!" ). Now I take my leave - 'Parasites Lost' is about to come on Cartoon Network. ------------------
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Leandro
Starship Captain
Since: May 2000
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posted 10-13-2005 08:12 |
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Leandro has not accepted the offer, because (as I understand it) he thinks it's unfair to burden one person with the entire cost.
That's correct. The hosting we're looking at costs $25 a month if paid for a year, and I don't want to have someone pay $300 for us, even if he's willing to. I'm *trying* to get a donation box up in the site; if 60 people put $5 each, it's the same result without stressing anybody's pockets. But the thing is, it won't accept my credit card (apparently it's not cleared for international usage, only within the Mercosur) so I have a question for anybody using PayPal here. If my account is "unverified" (without a credit card entered), can I still use the donation box to collect money, and pay a big amount (said $300) to the hosting service? Or do I need to have the account verified in order to pay that much? It says something about a $100 withadrawl limit, but contacting someone in PayPal to clarify this little point has been a bit of a challenge...
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Leandro
Starship Captain
Since: May 2000
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posted 10-13-2005 08:16 |
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Oh, and another point: people have asked why sections like the Framegrabs are off the site. This is why: after one C&D letter from Fox or another, SmooveNet told us they'd keep on hosting us *if* we ditched those sections with content straight off the series. So we had to put them in another server. This is another reason (besides the scripts not working) why we have to find *another* host: SmooveNet's hosting gives us 150GB/mo for $25 as well, but if we're going to annoy the visitors asking for donations, I want to make sure they get ALL the content of the site, including all the grabs and sounds that currently are on a "most likely won't work" schedule because they're hosted in other, smaller servers.
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Marcus
Starship Captain
Since: Jul 2001
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posted 10-13-2005 12:42 |
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
As Ralph, and MOLe alluded, would anyone besides me be willing to donate money to FM:TLZ for web-space to keep it going?
Just to bump up this idea, I'd certainly put in some money. After all, some people give money to _churches_ EVERY WEEK OF THEIR LIVES! Next to a commitment like that, $5-$15 a year isn't a burden. [This message has been edited by Marcus (edited 10-13-2005).]
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Ralph Snart
Urban Legend
Since: Jul 2005
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posted 10-13-2005 14:50 |
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Originally posted by Marcus:
After all, some people give money to _churches_ EVERY WEEK OF THEIR LIVES! Next to a commitment like that, $5-$15 a year isn't a burden.
Hey, Leandro can just rename FM/TLZ to 'The Church Of Robotology' and any donations can become tax deductable (at least here in the USA)... Inside of me beats the cold heart of a Robot! ------------------
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cujoe169
Starship Captain
Since: Nov 2004
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posted 10-13-2005 15:08 |
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amazing... leandro your a starship captain, you should know the rules about double posting by now... tsk tsk tsk
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Marcus
Starship Captain
Since: Jul 2001
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posted 10-13-2005 15:22 |
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Cujoe? Is that a joke? :P
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