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Topic: General Art Thread (a thread for general art)
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WAVer
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 Since: Mar 2007
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posted 05-15-2008 22:01 |
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Eeehhhh.... Ah... I... No comment
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Seymour_My_Hero
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posted 05-15-2008 22:05 |
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AHHH! ITS DIRTY NAUGHTY FILTHY!!BAD GASCHIEF! BAD!
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Frisco17
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Since: Aug 2005
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posted 05-15-2008 22:10 |
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Just found this one and thought it was really well done. Mildy funny too. The only one who seems to be a good character match is Leela. http://zzombiexiii.deviantart.com/art/Halorama-75570079 [This message has been edited by Frisco17 (edited 05-15-2008).]
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coldangel_1
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Since: Sep 2006
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posted 05-15-2008 22:50 |
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Nipples are allowed if they're covered by a flimsy wet semi-transparent garment. 
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Sine Wave
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Since: Dec 2006
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posted 05-15-2008 23:04 |
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Man, it has just been nipple this and nipple that all over this board lately. And by this board I mean the two threads this was posted in.I actually really like this picture, though. Simple, yet elegant with boobies lots of emotion. Captures the scene boobies quite well.
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winna
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posted 05-16-2008 05:50 |
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I like that picture a lot... it looks like you really captured something, and the forms of the two people are made pretty well... also, it's shades of grey, black, and white... which is always awesome.I'm not a huge fan of the nipples, and I know that's just my opinion, but I feel it detracts from the piece. I'm also aware that nipples are natural and beautiful in their own way, but I like people with clothes on that cover most everything up. 
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coldangel_1
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2006
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posted 05-16-2008 07:35 |
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Originally posted by winna:
I like people with clothes on that cover most everything up.
All the clothed people on city streets must really drive you wild.
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winna
Space Pope
Since: May 2001
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posted 05-16-2008 07:49 |
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If people didn't wear clothes, what would you imagine them taking off? 
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coldangel_1
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2006
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posted 05-16-2008 08:05 |
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Their heads.
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gaschief
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Since: Jun 2007
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posted 05-16-2008 10:47 |
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I agree with winna that sometimes the clothed body can be more alluring, because sometimes less is more!Also I was very pleased with Coldangels rendition of my Fry and Leela scene, this is very close to the essence / emotional nature of the scenario I envisaged in my minds eye. I dont believe the imagery was unduly erotic, just very raw and natural, just as i had imagined.
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SpaceCase
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posted 05-16-2008 11:10 |
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As I have come to anticipate from you, oh keeper of the angelic cold, another excellent work in your own inimitible unimitatible unique style. quote:
Originally posted by winna:
If people didn't wear clothes, what would you imagine them taking off?
No, no, no, friend y'got it all wrong:If nobody wore clothes we'd imagine attractive people putting clothes on! 
Heck, y'could make the same argument about unattractive people now! x^p
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winna
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posted 05-16-2008 11:52 |
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I was waiting for skin... which I do imagine people taking off occassionally... Actually, watching Hellraiser II gives me an erection. And I agree with you gaschief, that picture pretty much embodies what I think you were going for... the others were pretty good too, but I certainly like the poses in coldy's... I was just nitpicking about the nipples because I do that...
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Archonix
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Since: Jun 2003
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posted 05-16-2008 12:27 |
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Nip-flicking? I'm there! *runs off to find his wife*
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tyraniak
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Since: Aug 2005
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posted 05-16-2008 13:38 |
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damn you coldy, why must you make me question my feelings toward cartoon characters?
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Zed 85
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posted 05-16-2008 17:29 |
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Coldy, I adore that pic - and I don't see it as even accidentally erotic. It's wonderfully emotional and evocative and very nicely done My only nitpick (because I don't have a wife) is her near-side knee. For a while I was not sure what it was. Perhaps with a little more sculpturing, maybe make it longer... I mean once I realised what it was it was blatantly obvious but it doesn't quite sit right. Gah, anyway, post it on dA so I can go fave it!  quote:
No, no, no, friend y'got it all wrong:
If nobody wore clothes we'd imagine attractive people putting clothes on!
According to some friends of mine while we were in Russia there was a TV show which was basically that. Cheers for the comments by the way guys - really glad you liked the pic Flounder 
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coldangel_1
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posted 05-16-2008 20:08 |
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I didn't consider it good enough for dA - it's just something I threw together in five minutes, but if you insist.
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Zed 85
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posted 05-16-2008 20:09 |
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Well it's up to you, but I thought I'd say that if it *were* on dA, then I'd definitely fave it
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Xanfor
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posted 05-16-2008 20:35 |
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The raindrops are the wrong shape.That's the only negative bit I can find, coldy. I could cite evidence that Leela does in fact wear a bra, but I must confess that I'd only be doing it to mess with ya.
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coldangel_1
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posted 05-16-2008 20:45 |
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*Okay, it's on dA.*They're future raindrops. *It's a thin bra.
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Frisco17
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Since: Aug 2005
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posted 05-16-2008 22:38 |
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Five minutes? Dear God Coldy that's incredible something I'd do that wasn't even close to that good would take me days!
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Originally posted by Sine Wave:
Man, it has just been nipple this and nipple that all over this board lately. And by this board I mean the two threads this was posted in.
It's Coldy what do you expect. quote:
Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Yes well... yes. I have a slight fixation.
Whick is what makes you awesome. quote:
Originally posted by winna:
If people didn't wear clothes, what would you imagine them taking off?
Their skin maybe? Fry: "You must be at least this naked? How much more naked can you get?" [This message has been edited by Frisco17 (edited 05-16-2008).]
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km73
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Since: Aug 2007
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posted 05-17-2008 00:37 |
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"Future raindrops",  Seriously, though, I like how you manage to convey their hair colors with just the different tones of the shading.
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 02:56 |
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That's one of the pictures of yours I like the best coldy... You seem to think it's subpar, especially considering the amount of time it took you. Considering your recent confession that you don't have time to work on a piece for as much as you used to, might I suggest that you try speed creating things in the heat of an idea for the foreseeable future when the time strikes you so? If the piece isn't good enough, but it has enough validity, you could always go back later and do a more fleshed out piece. This would also probably make your skills sharper in the department.... Just a friendly suggestion.
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coldangel_1
Urban Legend
Since: Sep 2006
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posted 05-17-2008 03:13 |
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Yeah, ta.
I think part of my problem of late is that I've really come to despise my own drawing style in much the same way as one hates the sound of their own voice when it's played back to them. It's illogical and all, but I can't seem to get past it. My drawings piss me off, but I can't change my style.
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winna
Space Pope
Since: May 2001
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posted 05-17-2008 03:25 |
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Can't you? Expand... try something new, yeah? It might make a world of difference.
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coldangel_1
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posted 05-17-2008 03:27 |
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I would, but I'm not really a very good artist.
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 03:48 |
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Some people would adamentally disagree with you on that. As far as I can tell, things of these nature are a skill... some people have natural ability, but what separates the good from the mediocre is practice. I think you've got that... your portfolio seems nicely stuffed... trying something new for awhile might just... give you new ideas... and new perspectives.
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Archonix
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posted 05-17-2008 04:57 |
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I bet you're just reacting to the cooler weather and shorter days down there.And frankly you're a much better artist than you give yourself credit. What is it with the internet and great artists who hate themselves? And shitty artists who think they're awesome, too, what's up with that?
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coldangel_1
Urban Legend
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posted 05-17-2008 05:51 |
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I never met a real artist who was content with the work they produced.
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 06:45 |
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It's a simple matter.... people who understand something better realize what greatness is... they aspire to achieve it, and they see flaws... they see the flaws very clearly and it's irritating, they're striving to achieve greatness, and the flaws are right there... it's shit... it's not perfect...People who don't understand, can make something and overlook the flaws, they're happy that they produced anything at all. I've heard it might be nice to live through life mentally retarded naive of all the things that wrong or bad.... delusionally happy.
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gaschief
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posted 05-17-2008 07:24 |
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That last sentence is very poignant winna. I have often thought of that notion personally, being one of these individuals, perhaps like a lot of us here, plagued with perpetual doubts about self, humanity, life, etc,etc on the back of a tendency to constantly think and analyse things to death!What bliss it would be just to be indifferent to the eternal quandries that life seems to through up! There was a really interesting episode of that doctor show 'house' the other night, one of the few TV shows I regularly watch. The patient that week was a self destructive nihilistic character who wrote atonal punk music and took drugs all the time. It was interesting to see all the conflicting feelings this character induced in the various members of the team.
There was one scene were this female doctor who was repulsed by his lifestyle spoke with him, and asked him 'what it was like', he basically spoke about how nothing mattered to him, so there was nothing he could regret about his life. It was sad but also a very thought provoking notion. [This message has been edited by gaschief (edited 05-17-2008).]
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 08:41 |
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I've thought about it myself and decided I don't want to be delusionally happy... the hard road seems more fulfilling in the end. Something like the end of Brave New World, no?
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km73
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posted 05-17-2008 10:57 |
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Well, at the end of Brave New World, the "Savage" hangs himself because he realizes he can't possibly continue to exist in an environment such as the world has become. quote:
Originally posted by winna:
I've heard it might be nice to live through life mentally retarded naive of all the things that wrong or bad.... delusionally happy.
Now that more calls to mind Flowers for Algernon.
One of the themes of it, anyway.
(Whether it is better to go through life unaware, or be intelligent but disillusioned and bitter). coldy: about changing style, what about those sketches you did "by Nibbler", that is, the ones Nibbler supposedly drew, for BIOTB? Those were different.
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 11:11 |
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The savage wasn't the only one (the name Bernard comes to mind) that made a choice... and his choice was the extreme of what I described... I wouldn't want to live in a fake world either, no matter how civilized they say it is.... *walks off into his imaginary world* I haven't read Flowers for Algernon... maybe I'll read books again one day... when I have time... time I can use.
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FordMustang
Bending Unit
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posted 05-17-2008 14:11 |
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Flowers for Algernon is brilliant! The diary writing style as the main character in the experiment changes from a child-like man of idiot-level intelligence to a genius is plain inspired.@Coldy- Your art is wonderful! It always makes my days a little brighter to see one of your pictures appear on the site. I agree that most artists hate their own stuff. I always see flaws in my stuff and would never call myself an artist. Even the brochures I help produce at work I am never happy with them. I actually like your style very much, and I think you have influenced a lot of fan artists here- I am already thinking of your images as being the most the way I would imagine the cast as non-Groening characters. Whatever you decide to do with changing art styles, have fun with it!
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WAVer
Bending Unit
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posted 05-17-2008 14:58 |
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Well, these aren't really pics related to Futurama, but I felt the need to share them. Why? Because I can! 
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gaschief
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posted 05-17-2008 15:02 |
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quote:
Originally posted by winna:
The savage wasn't the only one (the name Bernard comes to mind) that made a choice... and his choice was the extreme of what I described... I wouldn't want to live in a fake world either, no matter how civilized they say it is.... *walks off into his imaginary world* I haven't read Flowers for Algernon... maybe I'll read books again one day... when I have time... time I can use.
Actually I forget what Bernard did at the end, he as sort of the main character as well! I need to read that book again, it's an easy book to read as well but so poignant. I don't know if any of you read the follow up work Brave New world revisited, here parallels were drawn between Huxelys vision and the way western society seems to be heading. It's a bit bleak but a very interesting read. Going back to the core of this argument, clearly the right thing to do is NOT to live in delusional happiness AKA homer simpson style oblivious to all the inherent suffering in life, but at times it is very very difficult and the appeal of 'a gramme is better than a damn' is most alluring, wrong as it is. Ideologically Iam probably conflicted between these two extreme views of humanity, if this makes any sense! KM: I never read that book either, will need to look it up. [This message has been edited by gaschief (edited 05-17-2008).]
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 15:23 |
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Homer sacrificed himself to live delusionally to protect the ones he loved.
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gaschief
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posted 05-17-2008 15:54 |
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I don't think this was a conscious choice though!
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winna
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posted 05-17-2008 16:15 |
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It was in one of the episodes... Upon becoming intelligent he started acting in a condescending way with his family and only after having a long talk with his daughter Lisa, whom he clearly cherishes, he deliberately made himself stupid again for the love of his family.
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gaschief
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posted 05-17-2008 16:56 |
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Homer is essentially a good guy, but I dont believe he think about the meaning of things or the reasons for his actions, let alone the consequences. He does have an inherent lamb like goodness that I guess is admirable in the face of his ignorant stupid and selfish side.The choice to reference homer is more the general idea of what homer's character parodies, i.e. the ignorance of the common man.
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