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The lower picture could have been taken before he had the hand swap since he had the Holophoner for a while.

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...except he sucked at playing when he had regular hands... unless those are "Fry before the miracle" recordings. Which may also explain why they're $14.99 for two CDs.

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I just call them squishy green dudes, but they're from the Amphibios system, so I guess they're actually called Amphibiosans or something similar.

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How about just "Amphibians"

Dave A: Neither of which are necessary to score. I think you may be forgetting the context in which Fry made the statement.

Hmmm... always thought amphibians had bones like them big frog-like Omicronians (hee-hee).

Shippy - argh! Here's a real techno-whoops from the same episode. Note Leela's hand, in the full animated scene she appears to be steering the wheel while her hand is inside the wheel.

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Originally posted by bend_her:
How about just "Amphibians"

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Nah. Then they'd just have the same name as a type of animal. That's boring. I mean, Zoidberg's people aren't Decapods; they're Decapodians. It sounds more science-fictiony that way.

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Originally posted by futz:
Neither of which are necessary to score.

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Maybe not for humans or Decapodians, but obviously Kif's people reproduce differently.

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I think you may be forgetting the context in which Fry made the statement.

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"Please. I'd know if a guy was doing that with me. Wait a minute! They've all been doing that! Even Sean!"

I suppose that the smizmar could fake it in order to get the other partner into a receptive state, but what would be the point? It's not like they have sex. All they do is hold hands.

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Originally posted by futz:
Assuming sex is a logical process.

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Anywhoo, I was doing some framegrabs of the Popplers episode this morning and checked the salt question:

(Ps. Amphibians do have bones, which would make Kif not an amphibian. Technically he's an invertebrate. Invertebrate means that they don't have a backbone. Zoidberg would be an invertebrate too then, since crustaceans are invertebrates. Sorry for that, my mom's a biology teacher )

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Originally posted by futz:
I guess Kif would be more like a squid or octopus, he even said he had a beak I think.

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Zoidberg has characteristics common to cephalopods (IE. octopi, squids, cuttlefish, & nautiloids) of tentacles around the mouth, squirting ink, and a shell.
Yes, some Cephalopods have a shell. I refer to Nautiloids.
As for bones, the cuttlefish does have a bone-like part called a cuttlebone, so while Kif may have no bones, he may have solid parts.
Congratulations! You’re now graduates of Spacecase’s school of Taxonomy!
You may expect a certificate suitable for framing or lining a birdcage in 6 to 10 weeks...

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Originally posted by ivan_fry:
In "The Route of All Evil", Cubert and Dwight paint the Planet Express ship red. However, at the end of the episode (when they're finally delivering the newspapers) it's reverted back to the normal green ship.

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Originally posted by bend_her:
Not necessarily a goof. Remember Cubert and Dwight return ownership of PE back to their parents, after they mess up.

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Originally posted by ivan_fry:
Yeah, but technically it's still Cubert and Dwight's company when they deliver all of the papers, so the ship should still be painted red...

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Or far more likely:

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Originally posted by britchenhauer:
Ps. Amphibians do have bones, which would make Kif not an amphibian. Technically he's an invertebrate. Invertebrate means that they don't have a backbone. Zoidberg would be an invertebrate too then, since crustaceans are invertebrates. Sorry for that, my mom's a biology teacher

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Originally posted by David A:
Technically, neither one of them would be any type of earth animal at all. They might superfically resemble such creatures, but extraterrestrial life would not evolve in the same ways that terrestrial life has, and aliens would not fit into the classifications that we use. They wouldn't just be different phyla; they'd be entirely separate kingdoms.

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• Does it use photosynthesis, respiration, both, or something else to live?
  
• Does it have a shell, exoskeleton, or anything rigid to support it?
  
• Does it have something akin to a notchcord?
  
• Does it reproduce sexually, or asexually?
  
• Does it have one cell, or many?
  
• Does it move?
  
• Does it breathe?
  
• Does it breathe gas, liquid or what?
  
• Does it use lungs, gills, both, or something else?

I’ll stop there.

Regardless of where life evolves, it will face similar challenges, the same limitations of physics and chemistry, and it may well evolve along similar lines.

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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
Regardless of where life evolves, it will face similar challenges, the same limitations of physics and chemistry, and it may well evolve along similar lines.

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Similar lines, but not the same ones.

A shark, an ichthyosaur, and a dolphin may look alike, but one is a fish, one is a reptile, and one is a mammal. They evolved along similar lines to fill similar ecological niches, but they evolved from different ancestors.

Zoidberg may look like a cephalopod or a crustacean, but he isn't one anymore than an ichthyosaur or a dolphin is a fish. In fact, cephalopods and crustaceans are more closely related to redwood trees and bacteria than they would be to Zoidberg, because if you go back far enough, they all share a common ancestor which Zoidberg doesn't share. That's why I say that aliens wouldn't fit into any of the groups that we currently use to classify terrestrial life, but would instead be entirely separate kingdoms.

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Originally posted by David A:
A shark, an ichthyosaur, and a dolphin may look alike, but one is a fish, one is a reptile, and one is a mammal. They evolved along similar lines to fill similar ecological niches, but they evolved from different ancestors.

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Originally posted by David A:
Zoidberg may look like a cephalopod or a crustacean, but he isn't one anymore than an ichthyosaur or a dolphin is a fish. In fact, cephalopods and crustaceans are more closely related to redwood trees and bacteria than they would be to Zoidberg, because if you go back far enough, they all share a common ancestor which Zoidberg doesn't share.

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Originally posted by David A:
That's why I say that aliens wouldn't fit into any of the groups that we currently use to classify terrestrial life, but would instead be entirely separate kingdoms.

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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
We can still classify E.T. life by applying the same rules of Linnaean taxonomy, IE classification by shared sharacteristics.

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I never said otherwise, just that alien life would not belong in any of the existing classes, phyla, or even kingdoms that we have here on earth.

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Originally posted by David A:
We seem to have been talking around each other here.

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Wait, I just confused myself...

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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
I agree we seem to have agreed not to disagree.

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I don't agree with that.

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Originally posted by saucie:
I think you're both in agreement with each other. I agree too. Classification is just a human invention, and a subjective one at that. Consensus doesn't constitute veracity.

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And thus the great flaw of democracy.

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Originally posted by futz:
Fry demonstrates his magic hands once more:

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