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Ekarderif

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« on: 03-11-2004 14:46 »

Well, at the beginning when they were attacked by space pirates, Bender was launched from the ship going at full speed, which is the reason they cannot get Bender back. In TMLH, we learn that the PlanEx ship can go .99 the speed of light. Bender drifted in space for at least 3 days while travelling more than .99 the speed of light. How did God toss Bender back onto Earth in a matter of seconds?
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #1 on: 03-11-2004 14:55 »

Because apparently he's all knowing and all powerful. What the hell can you expect from a Catholic perception of god?
VoVat

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« Reply #2 on: 03-11-2004 15:20 »

Is it possible that Bender was actually getting closer to Earth while flying through space?  Probably not, but it's a possibility, I guess.
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #3 on: 03-11-2004 15:51 »

god is magic
aslate

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« Reply #4 on: 03-11-2004 16:09 »

What i actually wondered was why crashing through the pirate ship wasn't enough to slow him down to within their speed.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #5 on: 03-11-2004 16:23 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
What i actually wondered was why crashing through the pirate ship wasn't enough to slow him down to within their speed.

Because then you wouldn't have an episode.

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #6 on: 03-11-2004 16:56 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
 What i actually wondered was why crashing through the pirate ship wasn't enough to slow him down to within their speed.

Maybe the Pirate ship had termites...

Jarhead

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« Reply #7 on: 03-11-2004 17:13 »
« Last Edit on: 03-11-2004 17:13 »

SWAG  :D
Teral

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« Reply #8 on: 03-11-2004 18:49 »

A nit for the "we can't catch up with him, bacause he travels faster than our top-speed": the engine of a spaceship doesn't provide velocity, it provides acceleration. As long as a spaceship has fuel, it can accelerate ad infinitum, there's no upper limit (apart from C ofcourse) to it's speed. The PE ship can accelerate, Bender can't. So Leela and Fry should be able to catch up with Bender. Granted it might take a while, but eventually they'll get there.

Then again I haven't had a physics lesson in 7 years, so I might have left something out.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #9 on: 03-11-2004 19:05 »

Yes, as long as they have fuel and engines, there should be no limit besides the speed of light.  But maybe the crew physically couldn't handle the acceleration, and that's why they couldn't go any faster.

As for the original question, maybe the Galaxy Being was able to throw Bender at a much higher speed than the ship can go, assuming Bender can handle such acceleration.  Or maybe he had traveled so far that he'd looped back around the universe and was close to Earth again.
Ekarderif

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« Reply #10 on: 03-11-2004 19:59 »

.99c... the fastest you can go is c. Despite the fact that they upped it to whatever trillions of miles per second, the laws of physics prevent him from travelling faster. 3 days at .99c and yet he arrives back on Earth in seconds. My nit isn't exactly in Godfellas but rather TMLH in which they talk about how the ship is capable of .99c. The other explanation, Bender being shot towards Earth, is plausible. I thought of that right after I posted... My mind is always a bit slow
User_names_suck
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« Reply #11 on: 03-11-2004 20:07 »

Well Its God Obviously physics doesn't really have to Matter when God is involved, although it sort of isn't God but whatever
jdan

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« Reply #12 on: 03-11-2004 20:21 »

It's an all-knowing robot nebula out in space... I'm sure sending something faster than c is merely one of its party tricks.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #13 on: 03-11-2004 20:30 »
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It's still possible for him to go faster than the ship: The ship can travel at 99% lightspeed, but maybe the Galaxy Being threw Bender at 99.99999999999999999% lightspeed, which is faster yet still less than the speed of light.  But I guess it isn't too much faster, so you have to add my idea that he looped back around the universe (which really is what's supposed to happen if you keep going, even in a straight line).  Also, Bender did slow himself down right away by throwing away the stuff he was carrying, and he slowed down after getting hit by meteorites.  (Also, it's a cartoon.)
jdan

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« Reply #14 on: 03-11-2004 20:45 »

~1% would just be 1860 american miles/sec..

Also, what's really supposed to happen is just speculation.  :) And yes, it's a cartoon... Perhaps space has changed in the past 1000 years as well.  ;)
Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #15 on: 03-11-2004 20:49 »
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
3 days at .99c and yet he arrives back on Earth in seconds.

We don't know what direction he is travelling in. He might have went past Earth and not be that far from it. Even so, he would still have to travel incredibly fast.
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #16 on: 03-11-2004 20:59 »

god kicks too much ass, thats how.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #17 on: 03-11-2004 22:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
How did God toss Bender back onto Earth in a matter of seconds?

Didn't you just answer your own question?  He's God.

God - The uberWizard.
jdan

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« Reply #18 on: 03-11-2004 22:37 »

God could kick my ass any day.
Spineless

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« Reply #19 on: 03-12-2004 00:57 »

Magic.  Got it.

But seriously. Its GOD.  Or something similar.
chay´s head

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« Reply #20 on: 03-12-2004 01:08 »

sorry to quote simpsons but
"wizard's"
or for anyone who knows rove
"ninja's"
Prof. Wernstrum

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« Reply #21 on: 03-12-2004 08:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
A nit for the "we can't catch up with him, bacause he travels faster than our top-speed": the engine of a spaceship doesn't provide velocity, it provides acceleration. As long as a spaceship has fuel, it can accelerate ad infinitum, there's no upper limit (apart from C ofcourse) to it's speed.

But the engine of the PE ship doesn't move the ship, it moves the Universe around it. That may mean that these conventional rules don't apply and there really is a maximum speed.
jdan

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« Reply #22 on: 03-12-2004 12:25 »

Yea, I know.. that confused me.. Leela says it can move 99% Light speed.. Yet in "A Clone of my Own" doesn't the professor say it surpasses the speed of light, which later Cubert explains by saying that it moves the entire universe instead of the ship itself?
Teral

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« Reply #23 on: 03-12-2004 14:07 »

Farnsworth said it could travel between galaxies in mere hours thanks to the increase of the speed of light. It still travel below light speed, even with it 200% fuel efficiency.

Even if the engines would move the Universe rather than the ship, it would still create an acceleration of the Universe (and everything in it, including Bender) directed opposite of the way the nose is pointing. Meaning they would catch up with Bender.

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
Yes, as long as they have fuel and engines, there should be no limit besides the speed of light.  But maybe the crew physically couldn't handle the acceleration, and that's why they couldn't go any faster.

Even at a comfortable acceleration of 1g, the ship would still increase it's speed and gain on Bender.
rule brittannia

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« Reply #24 on: 03-12-2004 14:20 »

now ye knows what its like to be dog god!
Jish

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« Reply #25 on: 03-27-2004 20:02 »

The God nubeula couldn't have been that close to earth, because the monks had been searching for God for what, hundreds of years? I'd imagine that they would start looking in the areas closest to Earth.

On the other hand, it couldn't have been terribly far away, because in the time it took Fry to spin the control and leave, the signal reached God and He threw Bender back.

Either way, God could have created a wormhole or something that, when Bender went through it, came out close to Earth.

Crap, there's yet another problem! God didn't even know where Earth was. Any way you look at it, it's not going to make sence.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #26 on: 03-27-2004 22:16 »

Magic. Got it.
Ranadok

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« Reply #27 on: 03-28-2004 00:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Jish:
Crap, there's yet another problem! God didn't even know where Earth was. Any way you look at it, it's not going to make sence.

Didn't God just ask Bender where Earth was?  That doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't know where the planet is, he may have just wanted Bender to have a reason why he wasn't sent back right away...
newhook_1

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« Reply #28 on: 03-28-2004 00:13 »
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Originally posted by Jish:

Crap, there's yet another problem! God didn't even know where Earth was. Any way you look at it, it's not going to make sence.

God did know where Earth was, he just needed to send Bender back at the right time so he'd let the monks out.


*Eidt* You win this round Ranadok. *Narrows eyes*
Ranadok

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« Reply #29 on: 03-28-2004 00:27 »
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No, we tie. I was short on a reason WHY exactly the God would want to keep Bender around (short of just for a chat). You supplied that nicely. Good work. [/diplomatic]
Teral

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« Reply #30 on: 03-28-2004 04:13 »

"God" didn't know which way Earth was, neither did Bender. But when Fry's radio-signal reached them "God" was able to pinpoint it's place of origination, and hurled Bender in that general direction.
Ranadok

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« Reply #31 on: 03-28-2004 04:24 »

General direction? Seemed pretty specific to me! On the cosmic scale, that is.
Nosebleed

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« Reply #32 on: 03-28-2004 08:56 »

The God-not-knowing-where-Earth-is issue, couln't it be possible that he did know the location of Earth but didn't know it by that name? After he gets the radio signal then he realizes that Earth is, well, Earth and is able to send Bender back.
Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #33 on: 03-28-2004 13:19 »

That makes sense.

However, I do find it funny that in an episode where Bender can look down upon his chest, we're arguing about how he got back to Earth.

And as for how he went directly towards Fry and Leela with exact accuracy, it was by a wide margin the least likely thing that has ever happened. Maybe it was just a lucky throw.
Teral

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« Reply #34 on: 03-28-2004 13:42 »

Einstein: "God doesn't play dice!"  ;)

I like Nosebleed's theory. Every species have a name for a planet, but not necessarily the same name. In fact for most species Earth would probably be called something entirely different like "Sqahytrigquxz" or "Pilonbop", maybe Sol III if they're in a nice mood.
german fry

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« Reply #35 on: 04-02-2004 00:00 »

you cant come to a conclusion, for the physics of futurama is 1000 years ahead.
So try to explain the html code of this site to uhm napoleon.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #36 on: 04-02-2004 00:08 »

"Bonsoir! J'Cuse! Merde!"
Yes, I can't spell French very well.

There. Everything Napolean needs to know about HTML.
BarneyBurnham

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« Reply #37 on: 04-04-2004 07:10 »

Yeah, but it's Uhm Napoleon we need to explain to.

Just sod it and take him to a water park.
fryfriends

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« Reply #38 on: 04-08-2004 21:07 »

He is supposed to be god of course he can do anything he wants.
PJF

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« Reply #39 on: 04-08-2004 22:05 »

BECAUSE HE"S GOD!
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