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Well since, they created all of those Universes, they woulnd't have had to exist before.
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Anarchist
Professor
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This episode was a physicist's nightmare. So many concepts that can make your head spin. For the sake of retaining whatever shread of sanity I have left, I won't even go near it and label it "CARTOON LOGIC: WARNING, EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS"
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Action Jacktion
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« Reply #6 on: 06-08-2003 22:36 »
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Originally posted by Teral:Although the only thing I found was the line in "I Dated A Robot" about there only being 1 parallel univers, a cowboy world. Now there's a couple of thousands. As I mentioned in the other topic, the Professor(s) created the other universes. The cowboy one must be the only other one that exists naturally. Originally posted by Arachnid:
And here's a real puzzler:
What would have happened if the professor had flipped a coin to decide if he should create the box or not? Ooh, good one. They should have mentioned that. Another one: What would happen if someone tried to use the box for their own universe (at the end)? All I can think of is that if you stuck your hand in, you'd meet it coming the other way. Like a mirror with no glass :P I guess you'd just immediately fall out of the box. There's a Doctor Who story sort of like that in which the TARDIS materializes inside itself. They keep going into it until eventually going in leads to the outside. Here's something interesting I just thought of: the boxes were the other universes and weren't just gateways to other universes, so not only did "Universe 1" exist in the box in the usual universe, it existed in the boxes in all the other universes they went to. So the one universe was somehow located simultaneously in many others.
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Arachnid
Delivery Boy
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
Here's something interesting I just thought of: the boxes were the other universes and weren't just gateways to other universes, so not only did "Universe 1" exist in the box in the usual universe, it existed in the boxes in all the other universes they went to. So the one universe was somehow located simultaneously in many others. Which is why I thought the 'pointer' theory far more likely, and that the professor was just simplifying it for the dumb staff  . Because, if he actually created the universe when he created the box, each universe created the other, so neither universe could have existed before that point (though all the characters would still have 'memories' of it). If any of the universes created a box to the 'main' one after that moment, I don't see how it could work at all... Incidentally, the "professor created the universe in a box" theory makes my coin-flip question even worse: If he did that and it came out false, the parallel universe wouldn't exist, and hence the other farnsworth couldn't have created universe A, so neither universe could exist...
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El Zilcho
Professor
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To Arachnid's post: I actually favor number 1. I think that since Farnsworth didn't flip a coin to decide whether he should make a box means that the two Farnsworths would make the boxes at the exact same time, springing each others universes into existence. But what do I know?
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Okay, I gotta' ask- er ax: After guarding the box all night, Leela says "I need coffe," and goes over to a coffee vending machine. She's just about to insert a coin, and decides to flip it. Where was she carrying her change? Those spandex pants of her's seem snug enough not to have pockets, and she didn't have her purse. I know certain garmets have pouches for such convenience, but there was no indication if this either. Yeah, yeah, it might've been 'inconvenient' to the plot to explain, and I understand this. Still... Where? <shakes hands in the air palms up>  |
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winna
Avatar Czar
DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #27 on: 06-13-2003 08:17 »
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Mmmm bra-change, mmmmm perpendicular universe, mmmm pistol-whip... Maybe Fry is still a millionaire, that's how he got the diamond scrunchy. Way back in Fishful of dollars, maybe pamela anderson flipped a coin, but in this universe she got tails and decided it wouldn't help out her career so Fry didn't end up believing mom's 3 sons and didn't give them a pin number.... Either that or diamonds are worth NOTHING in the future since the arbitrary use of monetary value is worthless to such a higher society... Or neither of the above.............  Oh did anybody notice that the hippie universe was labeled 420 on the box? I liked Universe XIII... ------------------ 
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MuscaDomestica
Professor
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Well Dimonds actually are not worth a lot today, the price is kept up by the dimond companies, they are actually much easier to find then most jewels.
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green-gesus
Bending Unit
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« Reply #35 on: 06-18-2003 02:11 »
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Unfiltered: Arachnid:That Prof. coin flipping the box making decision question only is weird if you buy the Universe Container Theory News_monster: that is now my favorite out of context quote: "The story of bra-change is good." Venus: Damn! And you're idea about Container Theory and the questions of what was happening BEFORE the boxes were made, not to mention HOW they could have been made resembles the idea of God existing before the creation of the Universe. What was happening before everything was made? I beleive in the Box Portal Theroy. Except....(and wrap your minds around this one) Portal theroy works well for travel to another U, but not after you have your U's box. I'll call this the The Malkavich Tunnel problem. Think of it as a tunnel between two rooms. If the hole leads to your U, its hard to imagine whether you'd immediatley 'meld' the parts that went in with the parts still going in, or there's a space of "between" area you'd travel through before coming back out. Maybe you'd enter a bizarre world of jarringly dissimilar perspectives. A place where everybody is there own Grandpa! Even the Women! DUN DUN DUN! Regardless. If its just a portal and not a container then shaking would not do anything since the Box's bottom would be without real location and thus immaterialy attached to the U, Or the hole 'self-seals'. That is to say, the force an object displaces when attemping to travel through would push against itself and cancel out that force. I don't know if that would create and unbreakable box bottom. So shaking it and the U moving gives more credance to the Container Theory, Same with Fry Sitting on it. But none of that works wih how its created or the problem of two U-boxes leading the same U in close proximity. BaShwanG! So, none of it is logicly sensible. Its downright contradictory. Random Wrongs: Amy 1's trek into eyeless world had lights in the building. Dumb. Plus if the concept of colors means nothing., why dye clothes?  And for the kiddies: As I wrote this, the word cancel just looks wrong, like I made up the spelling. I also noticed that the word know has 2 silent letters. Behold, |
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Arachnid
Delivery Boy
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Originally posted by green-gesus:
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Arachnid:That Prof. coin flipping the box making decision question only is weird if you buy the Universe Container Theory
Nope, it's weird no matter how you look at it, because if the other professor hadn't created the box, what would you come out of? And the box could be a 'pointer' - whatever you do to the box happens to the universe, but the box doesn't actually contain the universe, it just has a 'reference' to it. (Programmers will know what I mean, at least )
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