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PEE Poll: Best Star trek movie
The Motion Picture   -1 (2.5%)
The Wrath Of Khan   -15 (37.5%)
The Search For Spock   -0 (0%)
The Voyage Home   -9 (22.5%)
The Final Frontier   -0 (0%)
The Undiscovered Country   -2 (5%)
Generations   -0 (0%)
First Contact   -12 (30%)
Insurrection   -0 (0%)
Nemesis   -1 (2.5%)
Total Members Voted: 39

davids

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« on: 10-01-2003 11:14 »
I'm suprised its not been polled before. So here we are.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #1 on: 10-01-2003 11:18 »
Nemesis? You bastard!

I'll have to go with Star Trek II: The Wrath of KHAAAAANN!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #2 on: 10-01-2003 11:25 »
I saw the Motion Picture a couple of weeks ago, and it's actually not that bad a movie.  Okay, the word "Motion" was used tounge-in-cheek, but at least it's actual science fiction, compared to the cheap action flicks Trek has saddled us with during the last decade.
Tweek

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« Reply #3 on: 10-01-2003 11:35 »
The Wrath Of Khan, easily my favourite.
Sweetmelly

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« Reply #4 on: 10-01-2003 11:42 »
my favorite star trek movie is the voyage home. fantastic music. good fx and Patrick Doohan gives his best performance ever.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #5 on: 10-01-2003 11:51 »
I know this will be unpopular, but I'll go with First Contact. In my opinion the best of the TNG films, and even beats out ST2 (my next favourite) for me.
Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #6 on: 10-01-2003 12:34 »
Where is the "Watched Superior Star Wars instead" option?
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #7 on: 10-01-2003 13:05 »
Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Kahn.  I enjoy ST:TMP, I think that it's a great sci-fi movie, but when I went to the theater, sat down, and WOK started playing, I found myself thinking, this is like how the TV show felt when I watched it.  The thing that sold it for me was the music, in the scene where Kahn is preparing to insert the Ceti eel in Chekov's ear, the music brought back images from the TV show.  The whole rest of the picture just clicked for me, and I felt like a kid, watching Star Trek on the old UHF station at home.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #8 on: 10-01-2003 13:49 »
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Like the fourth one it is the most fun. Insurrection is a good sci-fi action film but it has so many massive plot holes that it is just painful to watch.

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You mean supperior Early Star Wars films... The Newer films of both series have not been that good.
davids

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« Reply #9 on: 10-01-2003 15:22 »
 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
Nemesis? You bastard!

Whats wrong with Nemesis an excellent action film with great SFX
Dose_Me_Up

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« Reply #10 on: 10-01-2003 15:34 »
Toss up between The Voyage Home and First Contact... but as I voted for First Contact I guess I'll go for that one.
Teral

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« Reply #11 on: 10-01-2003 15:47 »
 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
I know this will be unpopular, but I'll go with First Contact. In my opinion the best of the TNG films, and even beats out ST2 (my next favourite) for me.

Agree on both accounts. Though I hate the concept of a Borg Queen with a passion (why? Why? WHY!? Why did they have to ruin the Borg more than they already did on V'Ger?), the movie itself was great, mostly because of Zephram Cochrane and the Phoenix situation. Hey, it has Dwight Schultz in it, that automatically makes it great.

ST2:TWOK is definetly #2 and I quite like The Undiscovered Country.

I still haven't seen Nemesis, and judging on the opinions I've read, I wont bother until I can rent it on DVD.

Will someone please erase The Fianl Frontier from this timeline? I believe Annorax have a temporal weapon ship he no longer use.
Lurrr

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« Reply #12 on: 10-01-2003 16:08 »
I still have fond memories of the early movies (yes, even 1 and 3) and will have to go for Wrath of Kahn. I got it on DVD recently and, though its always been my favorite trek movie, I wasn't too fond of some of the extra scenes. Maybe it was just nostalgia.

The more recent movies (all the TNG ones) are pretty disappointing to me. Generations was pretty good, First Contact was better as an action film then a Star Trek film (and for ruining the Borg I can never forgive it) but the last two were ghastly. Especially Nemesis. It was badly ripped off from 'Khan', it barely looked like a Star Trek film, and it had no heart. At least Insurrection had that.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #13 on: 10-01-2003 16:32 »
Gracie is pregnant.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #14 on: 10-01-2003 16:43 »
I liked First Contact the most.I believe I haven't even seen all of them yet  :p
PCC Fred

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« Reply #15 on: 10-01-2003 18:04 »
 
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Originally posted by davids:
 Whats wrong with Nemesis an excellent action film with great SFX

So is every sci-fi film that rolls off the Hollywood cookie cutter.

Don't get me wrong, "Nemesis" is a good film, but it lacks the soul of the earlier movies.
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« Reply #16 on: 10-01-2003 18:11 »
I voted II: The Wrath Of Khan.

Because of the great action, great dialogue ("Khaaaaaaaaan!" ), Kirsty Alley when she was still cute, and those gross earwig thingies.

II, IV, VI, and um, 8 were the best ones.
Lurrr

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« Reply #17 on: 10-01-2003 18:16 »
 
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Kirsty Alley when she was still cute, and those gross earwig thingies.

Even now I can't help squirming with the Ceti Eels. When I was younger I had to fast forward those parts, but now I'm a man I can manage a quiet whimper.

And yes, typical nerd that I am my first TV crush was Kirstie Alley as a Vulcan   :love:
winna

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« Reply #18 on: 10-01-2003 18:21 »
I went with Kahn.... even number movies the best is how it goes though, right?
Nixorbo

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« Reply #19 on: 10-01-2003 21:02 »
@winna: ::Points at Nemesis::
CyberKnight

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« Reply #20 on: 10-01-2003 21:14 »
I'm still utterly annoyed that I've failed to see Star Trek 3. Not because I've heard it's good or anything, it's just that the Sci-Fi channel shows it so often and I always miss it (it being the only remaining ST movie (apart from Nemesis) which I haven't seen). And there's the small matter of it connecting 2 and 4.  :p
Nixorbo

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« Reply #21 on: 10-01-2003 21:36 »
And the not-so-small matter of Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #22 on: 10-01-2003 21:44 »
I was going to mention that, actually. Is he any good in it?
Melllvar

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« Reply #23 on: 10-01-2003 21:54 »
Yeah.  One of the best things about it.

Like when he arrives at Genesis, picks up a creature and wrestles with it until it dies.

"Nothing happening here".  :laff:

I think IV is the "funniest" down to the well-written dialogue, and Spock's "fish-out-of-water" act is brilliant:

Gillian: You guys like Italian?
Spock: No.
Kirk: Yes.
Spock: No.
Kirk: Yes.
Spock: No.
Kirk: Yes.  I love Italian, and so does he.
Spock: Yes.
Kryten

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« Reply #24 on: 10-01-2003 23:01 »
<h2>KHAAAAAAAAAAANNN!!!!</h2>
ShineFusion

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« Reply #25 on: 10-02-2003 01:58 »
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First Contact. Best Star Trek movie.... I've seen.
Gocad

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« Reply #26 on: 10-02-2003 06:36 »
 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 I still haven't seen Nemesis, and judging on the opinions I've read, I wont bother until I can rent it on DVD.

Will someone please erase The Fianl Frontier from this timeline? I believe Annorax have a temporal weapon ship he no longer use.

Star Trek V has one (and just one) advantage over NEMESIS!!! :mad:.
It's as bad as Nemesis, but at least you can laugh about the ridiculous story.
You can't say that about NEMESIS!!!  :mad:

Kirk wants to hug Spock.
Spock: "Captain, not before the
Klingons."

Aside from that, my vote goes to First Contact, because you do have to draw a line somewhere...  ;)
With TWOK ("KHAAAAAAN!" - Best Shatner perfomance ever!), TVH (Hmmm ... LDS) and TUC ("... guess who's coming to dinner" ) close behind.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #27 on: 10-02-2003 06:45 »
Nemesis beats Star Trek V on two counts - Shinzon is a better villain than Sybok, and the effects are much better done.

However Star Trek V makes much better use of the main characters than Nemesis.  The TNG films have never really captured the "family" feel of the TNG series, and no fewer then four of the seven regulars had fuck all to do.
Prof_Funkstein

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« Reply #28 on: 10-02-2003 07:55 »
Voyage Home -- mostly for the humor, which made TOS so good.
bankrupt

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« Reply #29 on: 10-02-2003 08:35 »
 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
<h2>KHAAAAAAAAAAANNN!!!!</h2>

I was wondering how long that would take to appear.  Wrath of Khan for me.
Gocad

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« Reply #30 on: 10-02-2003 08:37 »
 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Nemesis beats Star Trek V on two counts - Shinzon is a better villain than Sybok, and the effects are much better done.

Shinzon wasn't somebody you could care about, while Sybok was like Soran a real character with some depth.
And comparing the effects of V and X is kinda unfair, although the effects of V were bad, even for that time ('89)...

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
However Star Trek V makes much better use of the main characters than Nemesis.  The TNG films have never really captured the "family" feel of the TNG series, and no fewer then four of the seven regulars had fuck all to do.

And now ... "The Picard & Data Show!"
boingo2000

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« Reply #31 on: 10-02-2003 08:39 »
I haven't seen V or Nemisis, but of the rest my favourite is First Contact.  Followed very closely by Kahn.
Gocad

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« Reply #32 on: 10-02-2003 08:42 »
^ KHAAAAAN!  ;)

The Wrath of Khan is definitely the best one of the STTOS movies.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #33 on: 10-02-2003 09:18 »
Gocad, when I said X had better effects than V, I meant that V's effects were fucked up due to Shanter and the shit special effects guy blowing all the budget before the grand finale.
Gocad

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« Reply #34 on: 10-02-2003 09:25 »
Actually the effects were so bad, because they couldn't get ILM, who had done the effects for II, III, IV, VII and VIII. But ILM was busy with some other movie at that time, so they had to rely on another firm.
And these days it isn't really a problem to get good-looking effects for a SciFi movie...

But then again, I think you're right. They did have to spend quite a lot to reduce Shatner's butt in post-production...  ;)
PCC Fred

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« Reply #35 on: 10-02-2003 09:36 »
The guy in charge of ST:V's special effects was Bran Ferren.  Just for fun, I looked him up on the IMDB.  He hasn't done the effects for a single movie since 1989.  What does that tell you?
Gocad

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« Reply #36 on: 10-02-2003 09:45 »
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So that's where the SFX money went? His pockets?   :p
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #37 on: 10-02-2003 14:07 »
 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
[The guy in charge of ST:V's special effects was Bran Ferren. Just for fun, I looked him up on the IMDB. He hasn't done the effects for a single movie since 1989. What does that tell you?

Well, they were from, New Jersey, what'd they expect?

Just kiddingg  ;)   Seriously though, in one of the articles that I read about the film, when they went to see the SFX footage, Shatner and co. said that it looked pretty good for a rough cut, how long before the final product?  Thus they were even more horrified when they were told that this was the final product.  :laff:
kip
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« Reply #38 on: 10-02-2003 19:32 »
close call between first contact and voyage home. first contact gets my vote simply for fx.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #39 on: 10-03-2003 00:41 »
::re reads post::
Damnit I ment First Contact!
First Contact was a great scifi action film but it had to many plot holes which made no sence.
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