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evan

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« on: 03-25-2004 17:27 »

I'm not sure if this belongs off-topic or on-topic.  It's up for a mod to decide.

Here's a philosophical question: if it was possible, would you freeze yourself to be awoken one thousand years from now?

It's the ultimate gamble. Would you give up what life you have now (if any) in order to risk a better life in the future?  You would have a chance to see all the sci-fi wonders of the age, but you'd never see your family and friends again. I'm not going to make this a poll, because I think the answers we give will be much more interesting than just a "yes" or "no."

Discuss.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #1 on: 03-25-2004 17:29 »

I probably wouldn't do it. I like the current time. I think just freezing myself for the hell of it would seem like throwing away everything I slacked off for. I'd rather have it be by accident, like Fry, if I wanted it at all.
Archie2K

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« Reply #2 on: 03-25-2004 17:32 »

I'll give myself five years, then if my life sucks then I'd freeze myself. I'm just enjoying things too much now.

However if you gave me the option 2 years ago I'd have taken it without thinking. Indeed I even imagined a whole world that could exist 1000 years from now. However I decided that in retrospect there was a chance that the Earth would've been destroyed and civilisation was no more, and I'd die in days.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #3 on: 03-25-2004 17:32 »
« Last Edit on: 03-25-2004 17:32 »

Damn computers....
Margarita

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« Reply #4 on: 03-25-2004 17:34 »

i'd freeze myself if i was at the point where i don't care about life and want to die. (more than now  ;)).
nerdlingus

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« Reply #5 on: 03-25-2004 17:34 »

I would freeze myself if it were possible to like in Futurama but currently the closest they have got is waiting until your dead, pumping your corpse full a special anti-freeze and then freezing you.

Then they have the cheek to say that they'll thaw you out when they have "found a cure/way!"
Mr.MastodonFarm

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« Reply #6 on: 03-25-2004 17:47 »

I dunno, I may stay here... there may not be civilization on Earth in 1000 years. Besides, a friend and I have that whole "marriage pact" for when we turn 33. It's not like either of us will meet and marry someone else, so I can't leave the future wife alone here... or can I?

...my decision may be different if the future we're speaking of is like the one in Futurama.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #7 on: 03-25-2004 17:56 »

With each passing day I lean closer to "yes".  It couldn't be any worse than this.
The Names Nick

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« Reply #8 on: 03-25-2004 18:09 »

I'd probably do it though, I'd wait until I was around 30 before taking the plunge.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #9 on: 03-25-2004 18:11 »

I'm like Archie - I tend to oscillate from one to the other. During my school years (i.e. up to 18) I would almost certainly have said yes, because I absolutely hated school.

But university on the other hand has been the best time of my life (so good I decided to stick around an extra year  ;)). So at the moment I'd probably say no.
Anarchist

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« Reply #10 on: 03-25-2004 18:13 »

Oh, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Not like I have much to lose right now anyway. Plus, the modern world sucks. I don't want to be here. It's embarassing.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #11 on: 03-25-2004 18:17 »

No way man. Not unless I could take all my friends along with me. The possibilty of a better future wouldn't be enough to make me want to abandon what I've got going now.
VelourFog

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« Reply #12 on: 03-25-2004 20:02 »

no. I'd never have the guts to actually go through with it. At least life now is familiar. Knowing me, my cryo chamber would get exploded or I'd wake up in the future to find some horrible lizard race as enslaved humanity, or I wouldn't wake up ever because cryogenics is a scam.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #13 on: 03-25-2004 20:06 »

I'd like to be frozen in an funny position. Nekkid too so the people from the future can admire me in all my glory. On the block of ice/cryogenic capsule there will be a bronze plaque with my last words on it:
"Hey look everybody I'm farting in this liquid cryo-fluid. You can see the bubbles freezing! "
M5438

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« Reply #14 on: 03-25-2004 20:06 »

If I had absolutely nothing to loose I would love to find out what the post-post-postmodern world is like.  Cryogenics would essentially be an adventurous alternative to suicide.
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« Reply #15 on: 03-25-2004 20:09 »

Damn right I would!
Think about it, you could buy loads of stuff then freeze your ass (and if there's time, the rest of your body too) and get away with not paying your bills and stuff!

You could also see if Futurama is remade in 5D Brain-O-Vision in the future and if it isn't, you could introduce it to people and they'd tell you to shut up and get out of your house!!
Then you'd make it in the history books as the first nerd to pimp a 1000 year old sci-fi cartoon.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #16 on: 03-25-2004 20:09 »
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The hell with waiting.

*Jumps into Cryogenic tube*
Killerfox

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« Reply #17 on: 03-25-2004 20:18 »

well: I think I wouldnt unless I did something really important that has an effect on future life, but If I dont then its like all there past 15 years were a waste because all i learnt would be practically useless and all i did the same.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #18 on: 03-25-2004 22:04 »

 
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus:
Nekkid too so the people from the future can admire me in all my glory.

"Look what life was like before genetic engineering."
"Those poor 20th-century women."
bankrupt

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« Reply #19 on: 03-26-2004 00:20 »

I like the idea of staying where I am.  I wouldn't want to risk waking up in 1000 years to find out the work week has been extended to 7 days.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #20 on: 03-26-2004 01:36 »

 
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Originally posted by M5438:
Cryogenics would essentially be an adventurous alternative to suicide.

You could always kill yourself in the future.
mikey

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« Reply #21 on: 03-26-2004 03:40 »

I dont see why not. It costs way too much and would amke it hard for my friends and family.
Gleno

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« Reply #22 on: 03-26-2004 03:42 »

No way I'm enjoying my life too much too leave it behind  :D  :D  :D

Also Fry's freezing wasn't accidental.... :nono:
M0le

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« Reply #23 on: 03-26-2004 05:01 »

He didn't fall in the cryogenics tube on purpose. At the time Fry fell in by what he thought was an 'accident'.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #24 on: 03-26-2004 05:05 »

Demolition man
Philip J fry
Ripley
Faye Valentine

All the defrostees are really cool in the media, and it's 3:30 am, so I'll say yeah!  As long as I have an emergency eject mechanism in case the power cuts out and I'm trapped inside.
Col. Klink

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« Reply #25 on: 03-26-2004 10:42 »

Because Im a Nerd I feel I need to quibble over this title. Cryonics is the specific technical term for freezing people so they can be resurected.

Cyrogenics is the science of freezing any old junk. Its just a term that seems to have stuck.

That being said I would most definately do it.
Although I was thinking about it recently and I realised just how much culture shock there would be. People dont realise how much culture can shape a person. There are fundamentals to being human but culture can override all that.

Things we did felt and though would be looked upon as bizzare. And also thought to be wrong since they are in the future so they "know better" I imagine the experience as being how I'd treat someone from the middle ages. Just because an Idea is from a differnt time doesnt mean its bad.

And Ripley should never have been ressurected. Trust Joss Wheedon to keep at the dead horse
Tweek

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« Reply #26 on: 03-26-2004 12:14 »

I have no desire to be frozen, I'm happy with the current time period, besides, there is no guarantee that the future would be more advanced then we are now, some disaster might set civilisation back.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #27 on: 03-26-2004 12:24 »
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Originally posted by Tweek:
there is no guarantee that the future would be more advanced then we are now, some disaster might set civilisation back.

Yep, its called President Bush and the FOX network.   :laff:


gotta stop laughing at my own jokes...


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« Reply #28 on: 03-26-2004 14:40 »

You think currency will eventually be abolished a lá Star Trek?
Free stuff in the future doesn't sound too bad.  :)
Speli

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« Reply #29 on: 03-26-2004 15:33 »

Hmm. At first thought, given the chance to be frozen for a thousand years would be a no-brainer for me. I'd naturally say yes in a heartbeat. But then after 5 seconds I'll realize that this is a big risk. After all, what happens if there's a nuclear war and make tube gets fried, or it survives and I walk right into fallout? Or perhaps the human race has survived, but it has retrogressed back to primitive ways, or even worse to a dystopia of toil and sweat. The chances of me dying before even getting there are great, so as Ben said, it's a fancy way of suicide. But I think I would still risk it.
M. Proctor

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« Reply #30 on: 03-26-2004 16:27 »

I would definately not want to get frozen... I don't like the thought of leaving everyone behind, I'm actually quite happy with my ...life... at the moment. Anyway, I'd probably not survive in the future, because if I were lost, I'd be way too shy to ask anyone about something. And I know I would be lost too. Even moving to another town creeps me out, so why move to the future?
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #31 on: 03-26-2004 17:08 »

I would if by then they would have resolve my ISP problems.. not mention to my work problems
canned eggs

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« Reply #32 on: 03-26-2004 17:13 »

I think time moves too fast as it is.
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« Reply #33 on: 03-26-2004 17:21 »

i would freeze myself if opportunity given
 its not that i hate my life now or anything, its just that i think all the time about how awesome its gonna be 100yrs from now.
  ill just do it right before i die so if it doesnt work who cares.
Chelsea

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« Reply #34 on: 03-26-2004 17:23 »

I don't think I would out of fear of evolution. I mean, how much has the english language changed in the past 1000 years? What's to say it won't change again?
canned eggs

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« Reply #35 on: 03-26-2004 17:27 »

In fact it's entirely inevitable that English will be unrecognizable in a thousand years.  An issue Futurama wisely avoids.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #36 on: 03-26-2004 17:37 »

If I could freeze myself for a few months I would, but not 1000 years. At least not until I'm a lot older.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #37 on: 03-26-2004 17:39 »

 
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
In fact it's entirely inevitable that English will be unrecognizable in a thousand years.  An issue Futurama wisely avoids.

There could still be English, it may just be a completely different langauge. I remember seeing a book with Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in it, the pages on the right were modern English, but the pages on the left were the way he originally wrote it back in the 1300s, and it was almost completely unrecognizeable. English in the future may just be "Shizzle fo nizzle wizzle bizzle dizzle sizzle mizzle" for all we know.

And in response to me saying Fry got frozen by accident, he didn't know it was happening. I'd rather have it that way. A couple years ago I'd have loved to done it, but things are going up right now.

Lurrr

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« Reply #38 on: 03-26-2004 17:42 »

I bet in five hundred years time, a group of nerds will be discussing the same question and they'll have have the same answers. "In the future, I bet we'll have a better president than George Bush XXVI." or "I hope they've invented something better than these hovercars, they're so 2473!" Nothing ever changes, so why bother? I'll stick with my own time and try and get it right now rather than hope (in vain) that we get everything sorted out in five hundred years.
AquaSka

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« Reply #39 on: 03-26-2004 17:52 »

holy crap, i never put language into consideration until a couple seconds ago! thats weird and i agree in 1000 yrs that were not going to be speaking anything close to what were speaking now.
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