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PEE Poll: Can you LOVE a cartoon character
yes   -19 (30.2%)
no   -44 (69.8%)
Total Members Voted: 63

Killerfox

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« on: 03-25-2004 17:04 »

ok well this came up in #fc the other day: can you really LOVE a cartoon character?? I mean not being your favourite charcter or liking it, i mean LOVE.
I say no, yeah sure I like Amy a lot but for what it is: a cartoon!

vote!
Margarita

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« Reply #1 on: 03-25-2004 17:05 »

no. i think people who love ink on the paper need a medical help.
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #2 on: 03-25-2004 17:05 »

I say no, but you never know, stranger things have happened.

Usually with some kind of "idiot" involved.
Tweek

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« Reply #3 on: 03-25-2004 17:06 »

I think not, unless you are a bit odd  :p
nerdlingus

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« Reply #4 on: 03-25-2004 17:08 »
« Last Edit on: 03-25-2004 17:08 »

Err...No.

Although Billy West mentions that he fancies Amy on one or two of the commentaries.

*sarcasm*
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« Reply #5 on: 03-25-2004 17:10 »

Absolutely not  :)
Juliet

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« Reply #6 on: 03-25-2004 17:10 »

No you can’t love a cartoon character but you can fantasise about it.
Margarita

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« Reply #7 on: 03-25-2004 17:12 »

that means being obsessed with a character and it's close to "love" in this issue.
Melllvar

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« Reply #8 on: 03-25-2004 17:12 »

You can love a cartoon character about as much as you love a really nice pie.  In fact, the pie can give you more pleasure.
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« Reply #9 on: 03-25-2004 17:14 »

So it's ok for me to love Bender.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #10 on: 03-25-2004 17:15 »

If you imagine how the person would be in "real" life, with real looks, real personlaity and all, then I think it is very possible to be more than fascinated by voiced, animated ink on paper. "Wow, if only a person such as her existed...". You know what I mean, right? I've often wished that I'd meet a sarcastic, cynical, intelligent, geeky, thrift/secondhand-store-wardrobe girl with glasses. But to truly fall in love would be quite strange indeed.
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« Reply #11 on: 03-25-2004 17:15 »

No way, but I wouldn't speak for everyone on that...
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #12 on: 03-25-2004 17:16 »

Are we talking, true lasting passionate love, or I-can't-believe-I-dreamed-that-I-was-having-sex-with-her love?
Archie2K

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« Reply #13 on: 03-25-2004 17:16 »

Been playing kinky games in the kitchen again Melll?

First I think we need to define what love is exactly. People "love" actors and other celebrities who they have never met, and if we call that love then I guess you can love a cartoon character aswell. Your call.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #14 on: 03-25-2004 17:16 »

A person like Bender in real life, I'd have to meet!!
Juliet

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« Reply #15 on: 03-25-2004 17:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Been playing kinky games in the kitchen again Melll?

First I think we need to define what love is exactly. People "love" actors and other celebrities who they have never met, and if we call that love then I guess you can love a cartoon character aswell. Your call.

Like a crush?

evan

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« Reply #16 on: 03-25-2004 17:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Are we talking, true lasting passionate love, or I-can't-believe-I-dreamed-that-I-was-having-sex-with-her love?

Stop watching Evangelion before going to bed, Pitt.

I think, theoretically, it's possible to fall in love with a fictional character. Because the character only exists on the page and in your mind, it's possible to shape their personality into exactly how you want it. A "real" person's personality isn't so malable. There are natural discrepencies between what you imagine they are and what they really are. However, a fictional character acts exactly how you want them to.  I don't think it's unnatural or anything.  I mean, it's different, but as long as the person keeps their emotions in check, it should be okay.

While no one is willing to admit it, I'm sure that numerous people have had "crushes" on characters from TV, movies, animation, etc. Not just crushes on the actor/actress, but on the actually character. And I think it's funny that no one here will admit to loving a cartoon character.  I'm pretty damn sure that many of you just won't admit your ink-and-paper love. (like Margie   :laff:  )
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #17 on: 03-25-2004 17:23 »

No. It contradicts major components of what would specify love (at least if you are talking about the love between two persons, not, as Melllvar already mentioned, the "love" for a thing). The psychological part is pretty much missing already, since there is no reply in, say, a conversation, and the chemistry isn't there at all.

Also, it's pretty fucking sad.
Killerfox

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« Reply #18 on: 03-25-2004 17:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
If you imagine how the person would be in "real" life, with real looks, real personlaity and all, then I think it is very possible to be more than fascinated by voiced, animated ink on paper. "Wow, if only a person such as her existed...". You know what I mean, right? I've often wished that I'd meet a sarcastic, cynical, intelligent, geeky, thrift/secondhand-store-wardrobe girl with glasses. But to truly fall in love would be quite strange indeed.

well, that couldnt be, because her or his personality is made up by a bunch of writers, It just doesnt exist as of itself.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #19 on: 03-25-2004 17:26 »

I agree, not in animation.
But I do think its possible with characters in movies and TV shows although thats more than likely just for there looks so as a result is shortlived anyway.
Archie2K

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« Reply #20 on: 03-25-2004 17:26 »

 
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
No. It contradicts major components of what would specify love (at least if you are talking about the love between two persons, not, as Melllvar already mentioned, the "love" for a thing). The psychological part is pretty much missing already, since there is no reply in, say, a conversation, and the chemistry isn't there at all.

Also, it's pretty fucking sad.

There are people though for whom their love is entirely one sided in that they love someone, but said person doesn't respond with love. In this case is the loving person not really in love, or are they just deluding themselves that the other person really feels the same way about them.

It doesn't take a huge step from this possibility to someone falling in love with a cartoon character. Deluding yourself into thinking that if you were to meet you would be perfect for each other the same way that people do to celebrities they don't meet.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #21 on: 03-25-2004 17:27 »

 
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Originally posted by Killerfox:
 well, that couldnt be, because her or his personality is made up by a bunch of writers, It just doesnt exist as of itself.

True, but as Evan said, you can create the rest of that character's peronality in your own mind. If the original character has the right combination of archetypical features and the rest is up to your own imagination, then why the hell not?

Also, Spiff's point was good. No conversation- that would suck.
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« Reply #22 on: 03-25-2004 17:27 »

It's one thing if you want to stare, but I'm going to have to stop you when you ejaculate all over the TV.
Killerfox

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« Reply #23 on: 03-25-2004 17:28 »

I agree with archie, these are just sad people, they just have too much problems in life and they eescape only in their imagination with that character and make their perfect world
Margarita

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« Reply #24 on: 03-25-2004 17:30 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
I'm pretty damn sure that many of you just won't admit your ink-and-paper love. (like Margie    :laff:  )


oh yeah ink and paper..so sexy... sometimes i just take few sheets of paper, put them in the ink and then hump them.
. . .
Archie2K

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« Reply #25 on: 03-25-2004 17:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Killerfox:
I agree with archie, these are just sad people, they just have too much problems in life and they eescape only in their imagination with that character and make their perfect world

Is that love, entirely one sided love? Or lust? Or a crush, or a fetish? Like I said originally it depends on your definition of love.

There's no denying though that you can get horny over drawn pictures/paintings though, I don't see why you all seem so sure that the crossover to love can't be possible.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #26 on: 03-25-2004 17:30 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
It's one thing if you want to stare, but I'm going to have to stop you when you ejaculate all over the TV.


 :laff:

Couldn't have put it better myself!
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #27 on: 03-25-2004 17:34 »
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Withdaw the statemnet

move along.
Zed 85

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« Reply #28 on: 03-25-2004 17:45 »
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Probably just going over what other people have said already and probably chewing it up then vomiting it out in one large pool of incoherient and badly spelt mess, but anyway:

I think the highest degree of "love" anyone can have for a ficticous character, whether in a live action show or film, an animated character or even a character in a book, is purely what everyone else would call infatuation. Proper love is I won't bore you with my definition of Proper Love, but the way I see it, being some sad git who could be accused of loving cartoon characters myself, the fact that the character is ink on paper is absolutely irrelevant (as in the character could be from any type of media) - it is the presented personality or our own personification of them that we fall for. In my mind it is exactly the same as...for example a pretty girl you see as you drive by her on the bus everyday. Over time you start to feel emotions over her, you feel attracted to her, since it's only natural, but, you never know her, you never know what she does and you never gonna reach her. So you just fall in love with your personification of her. It's exactly the same as a character created by a bunch of writers because you are creating a personification of her, you are writing your own imagination. But its all just infactuation. And I think thus there is nothing wrong with it...as long as you recognise it's just infactuation and have eyes for someone who you can reach as it were, and then fall into a Proper Love relationship with.   :)
  :p
PCC Fred

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« Reply #29 on: 03-25-2004 17:53 »

Hmmm...
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #30 on: 03-25-2004 17:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Withdaw the statemnet

move along.

...but I remember what you posted. How much is my silence worth? (Please don't say "a hitman"- that'd suck)
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« Reply #31 on: 03-25-2004 17:57 »

Wank. Yes. Love, no get some help for christ sake.
Anarchist

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« Reply #32 on: 03-25-2004 18:10 »

Zed said it best. You can be infautated with a character, but not in love.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #33 on: 03-25-2004 18:10 »
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I think Leela's attractive, I've wanked to pictures of her, and I've fantasised about her.

Am I sad?  Yes, but I don't care.

Do I need help?  Probably.

Is it love?  Probably not.  It's more like a crush.

[EDIT]Or even better, an infatuation.  The f makes it sound cool.[/EDIT]
alenacat
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« Reply #34 on: 03-25-2004 18:27 »

Love is way too strong a word. There is some security in escaping into a world of characters (tv shows, books or video games) Though nothing you do or say could possibly change how they feel, what they do...which is probably why it's impossible. Love needs free will as far as I'm concerned
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #35 on: 03-25-2004 18:30 »
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...and that's what they mean by "if you love someone, set them free". Love should always be a choice.
[EDIT]Mutual love, that is.[/EDIT]
evan

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« Reply #36 on: 03-25-2004 18:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Margarita:
 oh yeah ink and paper..so sexy... sometimes i just take few sheets of paper, put them in the ink and then hump them.
. . .

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Most people who are very ademant about not liking something secretly do like that same thing.  Like many homophobes are closeted homosexuals.  Margie   :love: Fry.

And yes, I am making baseless accusations. Cuz I find it funny.
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« Reply #37 on: 03-25-2004 18:57 »
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Originally posted by Margarita:
 oh yeah ink and paper..so sexy... sometimes i just take few sheets of paper, put them in the ink and then hump them.
. . .

What if the paper has a headache?  No means no, you paper rapist.

What if it's CGI?
Gleno

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« Reply #38 on: 03-25-2004 19:40 »

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Lara Croft yet....I can't have been the only fanboy with a crush on her.... :p
I'm talking before the movies came out and she was just a character in a video game....I wouldn't say I loved her back then, but I was quite obsessed and wishing to meet a girl like her....
Anybody who can take out a T-Rex with a pair of pistols gets my respect.... :love:

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
If you imagine how the person would be in "real" life, with real looks, real personlaity and all, then I think it is very possible to be more than fascinated by voiced, animated ink on paper. "Wow, if only a person such as her existed...". You know what I mean, right? I've often wished that I'd meet a sarcastic, cynical, intelligent, geeky, thrift/secondhand-store-wardrobe girl with glasses. But to truly fall in love would be quite strange indeed.

Meeting Daria would be the best thing ever.... :p
VelourFog

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« Reply #39 on: 03-25-2004 19:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
You can love a cartoon character about as much as you love a really nice pie.  In fact, the pie can give you more pleasure.

I've seen that movie too.

I don't think I understand what you guys mean by "love." I thought i did, but then margie said that stuff about fantasizing meaning the same as love in this sense, and now I don't know what to think.

I think that people are more than capable of being sexually turned on by just about anything, including cartoon characters, little boys, desserts, small animals... I'm not going to get into the mental health issues though.

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