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TheTheory
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« on: 03-11-2004 23:53 »

After getting my first post closed for irrevalency, (which I'm not bitter about) and the embarrasement there-of, I'm going to play it safe and talk about a subject I know in a forum that it's allowed to be in.

Music.

Now, given that this is a massive board (do I remember correctly that there are over 4 thousand registered members?) I'm not going to pretend that it's possible for me to not duplicate a thread already out there, but I'm not going to slog through the entire backlog yet to find out.

Without a doubt, I have as about a varried music taste as they come. Music comes about as naturally as breathing to me. As does rambling on about nothing, as I'm sure you've noticed.

Now, you're saying, what is this exciting topic that I've had to read three paragraphs to find out?

I'll tell you.

What is the one musical expression you hate more than any other?

While I am generally negatively dispositioned against most rapcore and screamo bands, there are a few of each which I can tolerate. Now, Creed and their legion of knock-offs, which I'll call radio friendly rock, I have yet to find anything that causes a less severe reaction than murder.

You don't have to be as specific as I've been. You can just say "country" or "black metal"... or, seeing how this is not a board geared at music fans, you can say "all music."
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« Reply #1 on: 03-11-2004 23:57 »

1. (tie) Country
1. (tie) Rap/Hip-hop
3. Creed, Nickelback, etc.
Blackadder11

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« Reply #2 on: 03-12-2004 00:01 »
« Last Edit on: 03-12-2004 00:01 »

I haven't looked around myself, but if you want to research a topic you can use the search button to find out if it has already been posted or not. Mods will usually close a thread on already existing topic pretty quickly, even if the old topic hasn't been touched for a while.

But in response to the topic, I'll take rap. No musical talent required, only sadism and profanity.
canned eggs

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« Reply #3 on: 03-12-2004 00:30 »

I would say country; particularly new country,  And Conway Twitty.
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« Reply #4 on: 03-12-2004 00:34 »

1. Country
2. Western
3. R&B - the new kind, which is a total misnomer, in my opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: 03-12-2004 00:47 »

I'm going to agree with eggs... new country is terrible. It's like bad pop music, but performed by Southern people... or just people who talk like they are. Older country I'm a fan of, but you'd need to go back around thirty or forty years for something good.

Also bad are: 70's/80's hair bands, high school emo bands, anyone performing rap metal, teen-pop ballads, generic rap songs featuring generic R&B singers, people with a good voice who feel the need to oversing everything, Christian rock, Enya and the like, death metal where the vocals sound like someone is burping into a microphone... I could go on, probably.

..for the record, I think rap/hip-hop is in a hair band state right now. And I think that Nickleback sucks.
Yinger36

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« Reply #6 on: 03-12-2004 00:54 »

1.Country, although the old stuff wasnt THAT bad.
2.Gangsta Rap, which is a majority of Rap/R&B today.
3.Death Rock/Christian Rock/Emo
Archie2K

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« Reply #7 on: 03-12-2004 01:57 »

Boy am I thankful that I don't get Country & Western TV here any more!

I'm going to say R&B like Melll though, total misnomer and the people that like it don't even know what real R&B is. It falls into one of two categories: Pop or Rap. And both are mass-marketed pap.

Secondly, people who take Eurovision seriously. Come on, it's a great night of entertainment if you just let it be. Like watching a soap and pretending it's a comedy show.
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« Reply #8 on: 03-12-2004 02:14 »

Pop, pure 100% Pop. Death to it.
Melllvar

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« Reply #9 on: 03-12-2004 02:30 »
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
I'm going to say R&B like Melll though, total misnomer and the people that like it don't even know what real R&B is. It falls into one of two categories: Pop or Rap. And both are mass-marketed pap.

I'd personally like to kill the person who labelled Beyoncé, R.Kelly and their ilk, "R&B".

To me, R&B is, and always will be, Rhythm & Blues: Sonny Boy Williamson, Howling Wolf, Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker, BB King, and so on...
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« Reply #10 on: 03-12-2004 02:38 »

There is absolutely no need for anything called funkmetal.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #11 on: 03-12-2004 02:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Melllvar:

3. R&B - the new kind, which is a total misnomer, in my opinion.

And you know that, I cant stand this genre purely because it sounds rubbish and all the singers are nothing more than glorified backing vocalists.  :puke:

1) R&B - the new kind
2) UK garage or 2-step - trying to be to Britain what HipHop was to America.
3) Commercial dance music and I mean commercial such as Fragma or Sash! and recently Faithless , Ian van Dahl and all the other DJ so and so's churning shit out every other week.
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« Reply #12 on: 03-12-2004 03:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
  I'd personally like to kill the person who labelled Beyoncé, R.Kelly and their ilk, "R&B".

To me, R&B is, and always will be, Rhythm & Blues: Sonny Boy Williamson, Howling Wolf, Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker, BB King, and so on...

Amen brother.

canned eggs

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« Reply #13 on: 03-12-2004 03:42 »

Yeah, and Sam & Dave is the pinnacle of R&B.  Here's how it plays out: 
Beyonce's "Crazy in Love": not R&B. 
The Chi Lites' "Are You my Woman": R&B. 
Even though Beyonce essentially sampled the latter song in its entirety.
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« Reply #14 on: 03-12-2004 04:38 »
« Last Edit on: 03-12-2004 04:38 »

I agree about the whole new R&B thing.

1)UK Garage - They play this crap in the common room all day. How is it music? It's just ... noise!
2) Boy bands. I don't think I have ever liked a boy band (by this I mean buy their albums and stuff). Blue, Westlife, etc are all just clones. Busted recently tried to shake off the boyband image by throwing a TV and a toaster out of the window. I still hate them.
3) Euro Dance music - Say 1990, dance music was a "new thing" then. Now it just sucks ass. It's the same thing over and over again.

 :mad:
PCC Fred

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« Reply #15 on: 03-12-2004 05:37 »

 
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Originally posted by TheTheory:
After getting my first post closed for irrevalency, (which I'm not bitter about) and the embarrasement there-of, I'm going to play it safe and talk about a subject I know in a forum that it's allowed to be in.

Music.

Now, given that this is a massive board (do I remember correctly that there are over 4 thousand registered members?) I'm not going to pretend that it's possible for me to not duplicate a thread already out there, but I'm not going to slog through the entire backlog yet to find out.

Personally I don't care if you use the search engine or not.  But we could've done without the sermon.  nOObs drawing attention to themselves in this manner are pathetic.

And I'm not sure why you should find having your thread closed embarrassing.  Just about every PEELer has had threads closed at some point or other.  You're not being singled out for special treatment.
Zed 85

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« Reply #16 on: 03-12-2004 05:53 »

As a fan of the Blues Brothers, I think it's a crime that this modern stuff be classed "R&B". I don't hate the music, I just don't think it's Rythem&Blues at all.
Rap I do like, if the lyrics are clever and interesting, but there's a lot out that isn't.
Garage: F'eh.
Lots of dance music I don't like. Lots of wannabes in there. But there are a few I really do like.
Pop's mostly annoying.
But perhaps the worst offender is Boy Band Love Ballads from about 1989 onwards - such pathetic excuses for songs.  :nono:
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« Reply #17 on: 03-12-2004 06:33 »

1. Anything you hear on TV
2. Anything you hear on radio

I don't really need a 3, well, unless you want to throw Country into the fray, but that goes without saying.
SixByNine
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« Reply #18 on: 03-12-2004 08:49 »

1. 'Boy Bands' This includes Linkin Park and all that
2. Nu Metal  Regular metal is fine
3. Er... shit music.

In all honisty there is good music in all styles. Even drum and base. I just listed some types that have a high percentage of drivel (about 70% I would guess).

(Also hip hop rules (most the time), you foo!)
Cube_166

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« Reply #19 on: 03-12-2004 10:13 »

 
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Originally posted by SixByNine:
1. 'Boy Bands' This includes Linkin Park and all that
2. Nu Metal  Regular metal is fine
3. Er... shit music.

In all honisty there is good music in all styles. Even drum and base. I just listed some types that have a high percentage of drivel (about 70% I would guess).

(Also hip hop rules (most the time), you foo!)

I agree 100% with that post. except about the hip hop.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #20 on: 03-12-2004 10:45 »

-R 'n B, the invasion of black music forced onto us by the big labels.
-Pathetic hip hop
-Garage, luckily it's not so popular here
-whiney American teen "punk" pop

Juliet

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« Reply #21 on: 03-12-2004 10:48 »

RnB/Rap/Hiphop - I bloody hate it especially when I go and see my mum and dad, my brother always put Hip Hop and crap on TV and we have to put up with it. That is why I always have arguments over the TV. Even my mum and dad won’t tell him to turn over. I’m not being racist and stuff but why is Hip Hop full of black people. We only got one white rapper and that is Eminem.

Pop – you got to hate pop but sometimes you started to like one or two pop songs and that is annoying.

BoyBands - They all suck apart from Phixx in which I think that they ok. Why don’t they bring back Take That?
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Pikka Bird

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« Reply #22 on: 03-12-2004 11:12 »

  • MTV's Hip Pop and R n' B- that's not what either of those genres really is. There is a lot of great hip hop around, it just doesn't get any airplay or screentime. Hip hop is not about booty and bikinis. It's not about "bling bling" (a word that should be killed on sight- it shouldn't exist). I am pretty sure hip pop today is all about who's been shot. Seriously, Fitty' Cent, the absolute bottom feeder of creativity, gets all his so-called street-cred becuase he took nine bullets throughout his years. He's 100% devoid of any kind of musical talent. But his videos have hoohoos, so he's gotta be great, right?

  • And assembly line pop. The stuff that gets released by Britney, Atomic Kitten, Holly Valance and all boybands. What gives it its appeal? This baffles me endlessly. And the girls scream, weep and swoon whenever they see the boyband casanovas. This is even more of a mystery to me. Because we all know that a guy is a marvelous wonder whenever he has the God.given ability to sing other people's songs while giving every girl in the crowd the eye and pointing his fingers sensually. Which is another thing I don't get- How can you point your fingers sensually? I don't know, but they do it all the time.

  • P!nk- she's not a fucking rebel, dammit! She's just fond of showing her teeth in photographs. And alcohol.

    And of course there are others. Avril Lavigne has been inexcusably mislabeled. GC should just come out of the closet- "we're a pop-rock-ish band with tuned down guitars". Crazytown should just die. Now.
    ..and then some.
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« Reply #23 on: 03-12-2004 12:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Juliet:
BoyBands - They all suck apart from Phixx in which I think that they ok. Why don’t they bring back Take That?
Phixx = losers from Pop Idol: The Rivals = boyband = BAD.

Ha, ha, bring back Take That! I went through some photos yesterday and found my sister's 12th birthday cake with a Take That logo on  :laff: ...but I admit, I liked them too

Again, I don't like boy bands. They stop good music.

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« Reply #24 on: 03-12-2004 12:31 »

I don't like hip-hop- ESPECIALLY not Norwegian hip-hop... People rapping in Norwegian just sounds stupid. But I hate all kinds of hip-hop really.

And I don't like boybands. Argh. And I don't like bands that are constructed on a TV show..

Oh, and Avril Lavigne, Good Charlotte and Busted... *Isn't too fond of them either*
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« Reply #25 on: 03-12-2004 12:35 »

If you consider Techno/Trance music.. then that's the kind I hate above all others.
Guy

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« Reply #26 on: 03-12-2004 12:35 »

Placebo, R.E.M., the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Squeese, Madness, Spunge. Yeah, I like wierd stuff.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #27 on: 03-12-2004 12:38 »
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I completely forgot about Busted. That punk band. What's the deal with that guy who thinks he has to move his head in that moronic pheasantlike way? I'm talking about the white/black-haired guy.

::Goes to post some busted crap in the "bad lyrics" thread::

...and to Guy: what do you like then?
M. Proctor

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« Reply #28 on: 03-12-2004 12:38 »

Urgh! Yeah, trance should definately get a place on my list! And again, I'll have to say that especially Norwegian trance makes me very, very sad... with people who sing Norwegian, plus trance music. I just can't understand how people can like that kind of music.
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« Reply #29 on: 03-12-2004 12:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr.MastodonFarm:
Also bad are: 70's/80's hair bands, high school emo bands, anyone performing rap metal, teen-pop ballads, generic rap songs featuring generic R&B singers, people with a good voice who feel the need to oversing everything, Christian rock, Enya and the like, death metal where the vocals sound like someone is burping into a microphone... I could go on, probably.

..for the record, I think rap/hip-hop is in a hair band state right now. And I think that Nickleback sucks.
i couldn't agree more with this post.
let me add everything "punk" that also airs on mtv on a regular basis and also especially nu metal (although that could be what you call rap metal) which, as you can already judge from the name, is the 1337 version of metal, and that's no compliment.
and then of course generic pop (and sometimes rock). examples of this genre can be seen by turning on mtv, assuming they're not airing the osbournes: 9821th season or dismissed or other crap like that.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #30 on: 03-12-2004 12:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Mr.MastodonFarm:
...death metal where the vocals sound like someone is burping into a microphone...

That is ignorant- I will say no more of it. Unless you oppose me. Then you'll be crushed.
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« Reply #31 on: 03-12-2004 13:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
There is absolutely no need for anything called funkmetal.

I somehow get the impression I'm the only Extreme fan on this entire board...

Anyway, my biggest music hates are boybands and bubblegum pop, Ibiza crap, and anything Pop Idol or Fame Academy related...


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« Reply #32 on: 03-12-2004 13:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
 That is ignorant- I will say no more of it. Unless you oppose me. Then you'll be crushed.

How is it ignorant? I shit you not when I say I've heard a song like that... the singer was literally burping out words. I was just about to agree with your defense of non-radio hip-hop, too.  :p
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« Reply #33 on: 03-12-2004 13:44 »

Heavy/Black/Hard Metal, Garrige (init), Boy Bands, Ibiza crap, Pop Idol + Fame Academy.

That pretty much rules out all kinds of modern chart music except for people like Nora Jones + Katie Meluia
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« Reply #34 on: 03-12-2004 13:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Juliet:
 I’m not being racist and stuff but why is Hip Hop full of black people. We only got one white rapper and that is Eminem.

Beastie Boys... Granted they haven't had a new album out since 1998, but all that should change this summer...

Pikka Bird

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« Reply #35 on: 03-12-2004 13:56 »

On death metal: There are death metal vocalists who can't growl for shit. These are not the ones I had in mind before. Just like there are vocalists and musicians in other genres who couldn't hit a note with their voice or instrument if their life depended on it. Just like rock fans don't enjoy all rock, death metal fans don't have to enjoy all death metal. See?
canned eggs

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« Reply #36 on: 03-12-2004 14:01 »

Yeah, death metal is a sort of catch-all for crappy high school bands that can't play their instruments, but it's also got some real good stuff in it if you know what to look for.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #37 on: 03-12-2004 14:03 »

You can never go wrong with good old anti-christian Morbid Angel.
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« Reply #38 on: 03-12-2004 14:29 »
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1) Reggae. I absolutely fucking hate it.
2) Death metal with gross out shock lyrics(ie. Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, Skinless, etc.). It shames good metal like Cryptopsy and Starkweather.
3) Forgot this one before: street punk. All those bands like the Casualties, the Virus, Lower Class Brats, and even shit I can somewhat tolerate like A Global Threat and Defiance all have nauseatingly bad lyrics about "being punk" and "rebelling" by wearing demin vests with 500 million studs and spiking your hair with dog shit...and if these guys are as poor as they claim, it's probably because they spent all their money looking fashionable.

PS: Most underground rappers are white. Necro, the guys in Non Phixion, Powerbar Ernie(aka Copywrite), they're white guys. The only underground rap I've heard that isn't white guys I know for sure is Dead Prez. Very intelligent group there.

And I bet there's funk metal out there. I've heard people call Primus funk metal. Primus rocks.
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« Reply #39 on: 03-12-2004 14:43 »
« Last Edit on: 03-12-2004 14:43 »

Yeah, the underground is white bread, USA.
Brother Ali is a good non-white underground rapper. He's albino.    :p
Also, how can you be from Rhode Island and not mention Sage? Sinner.
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