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Nurdbot

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« on: 04-17-2003 04:00 »
A quote from my favourite Discworld Book, Soul Music.

Discuss your favourite bands, Music and general music Know-it-all here.
Crash2k2

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« Reply #1 on: 04-17-2003 04:02 »
erm.. Well i must say Good Charlotte. lol. Hence my other topic!
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« Reply #2 on: 04-17-2003 04:14 »
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Favourite Bands- Gorillaz, Weezer, Cake, Frenzal Rhomb, etc.

Please, go ahead and mock my taste in music. It's what this thread was made for   :p
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« Reply #3 on: 04-17-2003 04:17 »
i cant mock.. ive never heard of any of those..:S
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« Reply #4 on: 04-17-2003 04:19 »
Tenacious D.

Rage against the Machine.

And I have a soft spot for Gorillaz too.

Also Travis. The band not our Mod.
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« Reply #5 on: 04-17-2003 04:27 »
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Nick Cave. Music for every mood...  :evillaugh:
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« Reply #6 on: 04-17-2003 04:40 »
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Again?! I like.....Canibus, Eminem, Jedi Mind Tricks, CunninLynguists, Aesop Rock, Non Phixion, Planet Asia, 7L & Esoteric, Jay-Z, Nas, Pharcyde, Sage Francis, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, Ef@mm, Jean Grae, Fiona Apple, Sarah McLachlan, Bjork, Tori Amos, Linkin Park and Staind.
My sister had me "get" the Evanescence album, and I like them now.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-17-2003 04:44 »
I was under the impression this thread was for discussing the music you like, not just listing the groups you like, if that is all people do It'll be closed.
Gocad

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« Reply #8 on: 04-17-2003 04:47 »
Comparing bands is like comparing films, impossible. Therefore all that can be done is stating their opinion that this or that band is the greatest and hope to recieve some agreement...
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« Reply #9 on: 04-17-2003 04:53 »
yep, you state your opinion and if other people agree/disagree they will say. otherwise they will ignore it.

I like: U2, Matchbox 20 and other similar bands.

Weezer are alright, they have some good songs but are a bit boring.
Gorillaz are so tedious!
And as for Jeremy's music taste... well i wont talk about that!
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« Reply #10 on: 04-17-2003 05:46 »
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i also like Jimmy Eat World, forgot to add them to my other list

[This is not a double post... a load of spam was deleted]
Gocad

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« Reply #11 on: 04-17-2003 05:50 »
Back to the topic. I also liked Metallica, at least when was I young(er) and before they did stuff like Load and so on...
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #12 on: 04-17-2003 05:52 »
Metallica are alrite, but they are a bit hard for my liking.
Gocad

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« Reply #13 on: 04-17-2003 05:57 »
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During their early years they were...

Also, if you don't want to give you liver, I'm willing to take your soul or some other still working organ. I'm not picky, you know...     :evillaugh:
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« Reply #14 on: 04-17-2003 06:22 »
yeah Metallica were good early on, but as time and albums went by they got worse and worse, and i havent listened to much of their later stuff.

PS. You can buy one kidney...
The Names Nick

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« Reply #15 on: 04-17-2003 07:52 »
I still like Metallica despite the fact some of there newer albums did not live up to many of there fans high expectations. Im hoping when the new album comes out this summer that it will be better than some of those before it.
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #16 on: 04-17-2003 08:45 »
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okay....

first and foremost of course at the drive-in, the best band ever.
then mars volta, sparta, north of america, kurt, fugazi, jimmy eat world, foo fighters, nirvana, tenacious d, pale, pilot to gunner, shellac, weezer, beatles, ...and you will know us by the trail of dead, mclusky, tool, rage against the machine, the cancer conspiracy, godspeed you! black emperor, sigur ròs, raised fist, turbonegro, the moldy peaches, arab on radar, flying luttenbachers, nofx, anti-flag, A and lots of others, but i'm too lazy to name them now.
as you can see, my preferences are mostly hard/emocore, noise/math-rock and alternative.

and to start a little flamewar: good charlotte is just pop-"punk". note how i put the word punk in quotation marks - they're damn far away from being punk. their music isn't creative and they aren't very skilled musicians either.
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« Reply #17 on: 04-17-2003 11:15 »
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Ok, here's the list:

Blind Guardian (Power Metal) - the best of all

next are (in no particular order): In Flames(Black death Metal), Iced Earth(Trash Metal), Dark Tranquility(Black Metal), Halloween(Power Metal), Moonspell(Black Metal), Manowar (good old Heavy Metal, Thy Majestie, Nightwish(Power Metal)

also, (just not to get mad) I listen to different Gothic and Folk,
Lacrimosa, Dreams of Sanity, Antichrisis, STOA and some others

and other, in no particular order:
Rammstein
System Of A Down
Metalica
Beto Vazquez Infinity
Haggard
and of course, I have all the albums of SCORPIONS, yay!


oops, yes, discussing!
Who wants to discuss Metal?
Margarita

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« Reply #18 on: 04-17-2003 11:17 »
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Originally posted by Spiffy:
okay....

first and foremost of course at the drive-in, the best band ever.

Yes!!   :D

also I like "Sparta","jimmy eat world","north of America","Evanescence"   :)

and Thanks to my friends who sent me all music   ;)
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« Reply #19 on: 04-17-2003 11:34 »
Some bands I like:
Phish. Hippie music. Same fanbase as Grateful Dead.

Dave Matthews Band I don't care what you think of them, there's talent there and some fine songs.

Outhouse Loud angry music, by a band you probably haven't heard of. Very good though. I recommend you buy their cd, it's entitled Welcome.

Newsboys old school Christian Rock. Not as old-school as U2, but The Newsboys have been around for several years.

Jars of Clay More oldish Christian Rock.

several techno artists including but not limited to Crystal Method, Moby, Gigi D'Agostino

video game music from Metal Gear Solid, Crono Trigger, Earthbound, and many many other games.

Guster newer band, some rock, some pop, many songs are quite melodic. Good cds, good prices, go buy one. I recommend Lost And Gone Forever.
Loki

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« Reply #20 on: 04-17-2003 12:01 »
To put my five cents into a discussion.

Most of all, I respect well-made and big lyrics.
Something like this part:


Taken the long way
dark realms I went through
I arrived
my vision's so clear
in anger and pain
I left deep wounds behind
but I arrived
truth might be changed by victory

Beyond the void but deep within me
a swamp of filth exists
a lake it was of crystal beauty
but Arda's spring went by
I've heard the warning
well curse my name
I'll keep on laughing
no regret
no regret

Don't fear the eyes of the dark lord
Morgoth I cried
all hope is gone but I swear revenge
it's my oath
I will take part in your damned fate
…


All other texts  - short and repeated for many times – don’t get respect from me.
Although there are good compositions which deserve attention, most of such songs are just songs “for on day”. They never touch you deeply.
Archie2K

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« Reply #21 on: 04-17-2003 12:58 »
 
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Originally posted by Tweek:
I was under the impression this thread was for discussing the music you like, not just listing the groups you like, if that is all people do It'll be closed.

Why? It could be taken to the music thread, but as we have all found out any attempot at discussion in there is futile as it gets drowned out by what I would class as nothing more than spam, but since it isn't spam in the official sense, it is legit. I would say this thread has more substance to it than any of the general music threads or the test threads. That's my opinion. Your opinion is that this thread sucks, but if you can't logigate a reason furthur than your own personal opinion, closing it seems pretty insensitive and power-crazy. Watch out people the Third Reich is coming.  :p <-- Just so you can tell I wasn't 100% serious.

I have a very wide ranging taste in music, so I'll list what I can not listen to under any circumstances: Garage, the worst music ever made, barely classes as music; Slow sappy pop, ugh, horrid, all identikit songs, and why is it always the boy who has done wrong, go find yourself some slag and sleep with her instead of chasing the impossible dream of this perfect woman who probably has a fetish for cats and tuna  :evillaugh:, Some Classical, I really can't stand the sound of violins.
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« Reply #22 on: 04-17-2003 14:30 »

Kicks all those bands asses.
24 albums since 1973.

*gives Aerosmith some cake*
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #23 on: 04-17-2003 15:41 »
 
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Originally posted by Tweek:
I was under the impression this thread was for discussing the music you like, not just listing the groups you like, if that is all people do It'll be closed.

okay, in that case...

in my opinion, music should be complicated - it should make you think, and not just because of the lyrics. or it should create some sorta emotion. that's why i don't like your everyday-pop.
and that's why i like bands like at the drive-in or mars volta - because of complicated song structures and lyrics. that's no background-music. and north of america or mclusky - complicated rhythms, dischordal melodies and the lack of harmony in the usual sense.
or raised fist and similar stuff - that music makes you wanna trash your whole room, it's pure aggression turned into music.

of course i also listen to more normal rock (like jimmy eat world or sparta), but even those bands have some noisy elements (listen for example to your new aestethic by jimmy eat world or red alibi by sparta and you know what i mean).
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« Reply #24 on: 04-17-2003 15:57 »
 
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
 okay, in that case...

in my opinion, music should be complicated - it should make you think, and not just because of the lyrics. or it should create some sorta emotion. that's why i don't like your everyday-pop.

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that's no background-music. and north of america or mclusky - complicated rhythms, dischordal melodies and the lack of harmony in the usual sense.

I have to disagree on this. There are many "simple" "pop" songs that I really like. There's nothing wrong with fun bubble-gum music as long as it's done right. I like the Basement Jaxx and Daft Punk, two techno "pop" bands. The Hives do great Rolling Stones-style fun songs. Just because something's simple doesn't make it bad. It's just different. As long as it presents itself as fun, then I have no problem with it.

What I do have a problem with is bands that say they're one thing but do another. Avril Lavigne nor Good Charlotte is "punk" (but "punk" was always a hard term to define, anyways). The Vines aren't "the next Nirvana." They're "the next Silverchair." Slipknot and those 'nu-metal' bands say they're dangerous but they're just boring and derivitive.

On the other hand, though, I do like complicated math rock like Tool, Radiohead, Clinic, Sigur Ros, and the like. I enjoy rap, like early Eminem, The Coup, Outkast, N.E.R.D. and The Roots. I like heavy metal, I like punk, I like alternative.

In the words of The D. "It doesn't matter if it's good, it only matters if it rocks!"
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« Reply #25 on: 04-17-2003 15:58 »
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Originally posted by Crash2k2:
erm.. Well i must say Good Charlotte. lol. Hence my other topic!

You just have one fav band and it's the last trendy soft pop punk rock band?

Strange!
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #26 on: 04-17-2003 16:10 »
 
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Originally posted by evan:
 I have to disagree on this. There are many "simple" "pop" songs that I really like. There's nothing wrong with fun bubble-gum music as long as it's done right. I like the Basement Jaxx and Daft Punk, two techno "pop" bands. The Hives do great Rolling Stones-style fun songs. Just because something's simple doesn't make it bad. It's just different. As long as it presents itself as fun, then I have no problem with it.
okay, you are right with that. with my definition i meant the bands you mentioned in the quote below, just look at weezer, jimmy eat world or pale - that's not complicated rock, but it's good rock and it's geniune. these people actually like the stuff they're doing and most important of all, they wrote all their songs themselves. and they wouldn't change their style to sale more records. that's important to me, because in my opinion you can hear if a band actually enjoys playing their music (which is usually more often the case if the band wrote the songs themselves) or if not.

 
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What I do have a problem with is bands that say they're one thing but do another. Avril Lavigne nor Good Charlotte is "punk" (but "punk" was always a hard term to define, anyways). The Vines aren't "the next Nirvana." They're "the next Silverchair." Slipknot and those 'nu-metal' bands say they're dangerous but they're just boring and derivitive.
exactly. these bands don't sell their music because the music's good (it's just a good example of the genre the band is catigorized in), the music shouldn't even be creative, the main aim of the music is to be sold.

 
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In the words of The D. "It doesn't matter if it's good, it only matters if it rocks!"

i fully agree with the d.
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« Reply #27 on: 04-17-2003 17:18 »
OK, now I'll chime in.  I've been into almost every genre of music.  I love rock & metal, as well as some pop music (as long as it's done well, and is fairly inventive).  I was into hip-hop in the early eighties and still like to listen to it.  I also like good electronica  (Prodigy, Fluke, Orbital, AphexTwin, Future Sound Of London), some dance music (mainly without vocals) and some non-commercial trance.

Music these days is all about recycling, it always depends on how it's recycled.  If done properly and inventively then the listener barely notices.  However, the music scene is awash with poor poor facsimiles of decent artists.
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« Reply #28 on: 04-17-2003 18:09 »
I have seen many, many bands in cocert and this is how i have come to judge bands mainly.  For example, I used to like Blink - 182.  Saw them live.... they sucked major ass.  Stopped liking Blink.  I used to just think Social Distortion was 'ok' now they are quite possibly my favorite band.  I really, really like bands that put on a good show.  The bands that I have seen that put on AWESOME shows, Social Distortion, Authority Zero, and Green Day.  Pennywise plays a GREAT Show, as do most of the bands I like, its just that other level that AZ, SD and GD take it too that make them really really good.  So thats how i judge a band really, if they can play music live and be good and energetic, they rule in my opinion.
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« Reply #29 on: 04-17-2003 18:12 »
a band that i have been listning to a lot of late is Cibo Matto. their lyrics are dream-like, and the beats melt in my mouth.
also i really like Bjork, her creativity knows no bounds and each album is a detailed glimpse into one part of her. She throws herself into her work and it enchants me.
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« Reply #30 on: 04-17-2003 23:18 »
I'd like to see Jurassic 5 in concert. And Gorillaz too, although they present in an unusual way. It's this huge video screen showing cartoons of the members playing. But it's all live. I wonder if they do get to see the real people in the concert too.

Yay Melllvar! You seem to be part of the .005% of the public that knows quality electronic music. My fave electronica artists include Astral Projection, Prodigy, Trance[]Control, and the like. Most ppl I know can only think of DJ Sammy and Ian Van Dahl for dance music. Well, those happen to make the cheesies dance tracks ever.
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« Reply #31 on: 04-17-2003 23:47 »
I listen to pretty much anything that appeals to me.  I play punk, surf, metal and classic rock.  I've seen too many bands to list.  For me music need not be complicated, wordy, thought provoking or socially aware to be appealing.  It just has to sound good.  If you know what I mean.  I'd rather listen to the Ramones than Yngwie Malmsteen.  That being said, technicality also has it's place.  Right now, I'm listening to alot of Death and Black Metal.  Ultra Satanic stuff like Sorhin, Enochian Crescent and Thyrane.  Avantgarde stuff like Arcturus, Ulver and Ephel Duath.  Death rock like, Babylon Whores, Sentenced and Katatonia.  I also like more mainstream stuff like Bjork, Morcheeba and The Vines.  My cd collection is in excess of 600, so there's room for a little bit of everything.
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« Reply #32 on: 04-17-2003 23:52 »
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Now by Satanic, do you mean stuff that's actually worshiping Satan in earnest, or just good old counterculture shock value "Evil is cool, rock on, yeah"  music?
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« Reply #33 on: 04-18-2003 00:08 »
"Worshipping" is a religious connotation.  Bands like Sorhin don't openly "praise" the Christian manifestation of "the devil" but rather advocate the anti-religious, anti-humanist aspects of Satanism.  Wanted God dead or alive, rather than Evil is cool, sell your soul etc. ect.  Our version of Satanism has no room for religious iconography.  It is far more pragmatic than simple good vs evil.  To me there is nothing more evil than organized religion or elevating man above any of the other animals.  We can and do root around in the shit with the best of them.  It's more anticulture than counterculture, if you catch my drift.   
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So in other words your music says that people are animals, organized religion sucks lollipops, etc?

I'm sort of in agreemant, about highly organized religion. Locally organized churches are better, far as I'm concerned. The more bureocracy you allow in a faith, the more opportunity for people to "pull rank" and whatnot.

But if you object to Christianity in general, then I'd like to issue a big "You're wrong", based on the good that certain Christian organizations like the Salvation Army and City Mission provide, and the good provided by missionary doctors, hiring companies to dig wells for impoverished communities, and the like. (which my church supports monetarily). The crusades might be your favorite example, but that's not only long-gone history, but an example of religion gone wrong to begin with.

So Spicy, your music's values oppose Christianity? Or just the beurocracy of Catholicism?
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« Reply #35 on: 04-18-2003 01:14 »
I most certainly object to Christianity in general. Judeo-Chritianity and Islam, I find to be the most henious offenders of intolerance and mindless "shepherding".  Keep the proles stupid and fearful, therby keeping them inline.  Meh.  This is a music thread not an idiological forum.  The percieved "good" done by SallyAnn et al is just a thin veil of pittance compared to the irreperable damage by cenuturies of crusades, inqusitions and Jihads. 

In a short sentence:

Fuck God

That's all I have to say about that.
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« Reply #36 on: 04-18-2003 05:00 »
 
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*gives Aerosmith some cake*

You better chew it for them.

*attempts to infuriate Fazey*
They've sucked ever since Alicia Silverstone left the band.  :hmpf:
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« Reply #37 on: 04-18-2003 10:49 »
 
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Yay Melllvar! You seem to be part of the .005% of the public that knows quality electronic music. My fave electronica artists include Astral Projection, Prodigy, Trance[]Control, and the like. Most ppl I know can only think of DJ Sammy and Ian Van Dahl for dance music. Well, those happen to make the cheesies dance tracks ever.

Oi! I better get a Yay aswell. I know and quite often like electronica styley music. I'm not a huge fan, but I'm certainly not vehemontly against it like most people I know. If there is one thing I could do without though is those ruddy 80's remixes. *shudders*
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« Reply #38 on: 04-18-2003 12:02 »
Overclocked Remixes.  'Nuff said.
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« Reply #39 on: 04-18-2003 12:11 »
Those old songs oughtta be removed from history, they get stuck in your head for days, back when i was playing tetris, i was stepping in tune to the silent song for a week.
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