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coldangel
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Originally posted by Xanfor: @Coldangel_1: Don't even dare.
Hooray! I'm being pre-emptively admonished with friends! She's a practical person who likes dealing with immediate issues in the physical world, because that's what she's best at. Emotional struggles are difficult for her; she isn't adept at managing them so they make her feel inadequate and exposed. Consequently she shuffles them away and pretends they don't exist.
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coldangel
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Direct and unaviodable. Well we've seen her break down and cry under that kind of pressure. Either that or get angry and kick someone.
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coldangel
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My bluntness may be the result of a certain empathy I have for young Fry, having been in similar predicaments.
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coldangel
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Jesus, after TKOS I'd have been strongly inclined to just throw myself out the airlock and be done with it all.
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Shiny
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Originally posted by coldangel_1: Anything that requires effort isn't worth having, and if you need to go to great lengths to get something then you were never supposed to have it in the first place. If the world decides to barricade us, then who are we to second-guess fate by surmounting the barriers? Better to live in abject misery; that's clearly what we're designed for - the whole of human civilization seems geared specifically to the purpose of tormenting and crushing those who inhabit it. Humanity is misery - you try to fight it then you're deemed a traitor to the cause and are trodden on time and time again. This is the way of things. The price you gotta pay to be happy is astronomical, and my pockets are empty. Thank you Merry Sunshine. Originally posted by Cyberphobia: TKOS left Fry with a lot of hope: that it IS actually possible for him to be with Leela because she did marry him. He now knows that he can do things to 'make' (for lack of a better word) Leela love him. And ironically, the way to "make" her love him is to just tell her (clearly and unequivocably) that he loves her. Originally posted by coldangel_1: Ah, but the crushing defeat of having The Message blown up before she could see it, that would have been it for me. I'd have just thrown in the towel.
Obviously Fry has some massive reserve of spiritual currency to keep blowing on futility. That's why Fry is a Hero.
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KitKatBar-Fry
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That topic, actually, has made it's way into a lot of fanfics; what if Fry just got tired of following Leela around? (which I beleive is what your fanfic is about, jle) 'Tis an interesting subject to discuss. I am almost positive that Fry would simply give up in one of the later episodes. Then Leela, being used to having him folo her around, would feel uncomfortable. Ever now and again, thoughts would creep into the back of her mind-Where is the lovable redhead? I actually miss him begging me for a date, or trying to pass a move on me.
That kind of stuff. I can deduce from Leela's character that she is only still rejecting Fry because of all her failed relationships. It'd just be too muchto bear if he turned out to be a sleazeball like all the others. So, she plays it safe, never really going steady, but allowing her feeling for him to seep through every once in a while when they go on a 'date.' If he were ever to leave, though, or at least stop following her around, she would have no outlet for her emotions.
If that happened, she would truly come to realize exactly how much Fry means to her. In fact, the situation may turn itself around. Perhaps Leela will start chasing Fry, trying to get close to him, in an attempt to get him back. Fry might neglect, tired of being shot down so much, but if there were a wild series of events...like, oh, say Leela was captured or something-maybe he would suck it up and go rescue her. She's safe, she realizes she loves him, yadda yadda, and he realizes that he still loves her, no matter how much he tries to deny it. He's pretty smart, in that way. They live happily ever after. Yay! Ow...now my typing finger hurts....
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Shiny: That's why Fry is a Hero. Are you saying I'm NOT a hero? I can't count the numer of times I've saved this planet from flaming destruction at the hands/claws/tentacles of various megamaniacs/demons/aliens... and what did I get? A voucher to a CD store! Fry slobbers around behind a buxxom chick stupidly ignoring setback after setback and suddenly HE's a hero?!? BAH!! This awards ceremony is RIGGED! But taking the lead from a few previous points, Fry might have some moderate success if he took a turn at playing hard-to-get for a change. Nobody respects a desperate drooling idiot, but if he starts acting a little more aloof, perhaps takes the appearence of no longer being interested, he might force the tables to turn. The eternal tango... he takes a step forward so she takes a stap back. It follows that if he takes a step back then...
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any1else
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« Reply #505 on: 10-29-2006 20:50 »
« Last Edit on: 10-29-2006 20:50 »
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Don't worry Mooseface, you'll always be Joeltron, Defender of the Universe in your own imagination. But then if he ignores her she might think he doesn't like her anymore. So then she might get discouraged and not try herself, in effect making Fry think she still doesn't like him either, so it's yet another attempt to have her attention failed. Of course, it could always go the other way... Originally posted by jle1993: I don't, I despise Zoidberg, he's a spineless coward that let people walk all over him, he needs to stand up for himself. But he never did anything to be walked all over for in the first place. As far as I know... He's just different.
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coldangel
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With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg! Maz, you're a woman. You know how your mind works - you like to dangle blokes from a string and toy with them. But if they appear to lose interest you'll be all like "Oh no! I went too far!" and then try desperately to regain the bloke's interest by brazenly flaunting your body and draping yourself all over him. Yes. I know the inner-workings of the female mind...
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any1else
Space Pope
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Originally posted by coldangel_1: Maz, you're a woman. You know how your mind works - you like to dangle blokes from a string and toy with them. But if they appear to lose interest you'll be all like "Oh no! I went too far!" and then try desperately to regain the bloke's interest by brazenly flaunting your body and draping yourself all over him. Yes. I know the inner-workings of the female mind... Bwahahahaha - blokes?! Ahahaha...yes, all the millions of men who follow me around all day, every day. Snort. I just think that seeing how Leela's self concept isn't really too flash all the time, I wouldn't think she'd be prompted to go after Fry if he showed less interest. She might though. Maybe if we write her character... Originally posted by Apple Tea: Yea, I always feel sorry for him whenever one of the PE crew is mean to him. He really shouldn't try to be friends with people who need him to stick up for himself when they're mean to him to be impressed...Hmm. The PE crew are bullies. Originally posted by Apple Tea: I say people need to talk more about the other romance among characters and not concentrate so much on Fry/Leela But Fry and Leela seem to be the ones everyone can relate to in some way...
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coldangel
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Fry and Leela are the main characters and the primary focal point.
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coldangel
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Kif's children are only supposed to fully gestate after twenty years in the swamp.
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coldangel
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Haha, Insane in the Mainframe was on tonight and I thought about her overt physical intimacy with Fry.
#1 She presses his face into her boobs. "BEEP!"
#2 She gives him a good long hard smooch on the lips 'remind him of his humanity', and then smiles at him.
#3 Kisses him on the cheek after he saves them all. "I'm gonna continue never washing this cheek again!"
The first two were, I suspect, things she always wanted to do, and she was taking the opportunity due to his mental illness.
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