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TheLesbianLeela
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:But don't forget, it's a cartoon... Lamest. Idea. Ever.  Let's say it was a wizard.  Originally posted by M0le:
At least, depending on if he thought that the Suicide Booth in the first episode would kill him Who said it really would kill him? Also, the suicide booth has a "Quick and painless" modus which may be a high energy laser? Or a desintegrator? Fluor-acid?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by M0le:
Why is that no matter what happens to Bender, he survives?
Things that should have killed him (At least, depending on if he thought that the Suicide Booth in the first episode would kill him)
- Being crushed by Destructor
- Asteroid through the head
- Axe in back, drill in forehead
- Various things in 'Tale of Two Santas' (shot, burnt)
- Being shot in the head in 'The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz'
- The ending to 'War is the H-Word'
Since he's a robot, and have shown that he can survive just find without a body, you can only truely kill him if you erase his program. Depending on where in his head the storage unit is located, you have to aim pretty precise to hit it. Body damages doesn't concern him, only a head wound could. The only thing that had potential to kill him was the meteorite in "Godfellas". The suicide booth probably had a way of producing an intense electromagnetic pulse, which would fry his circuits and thus kill him.
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TheLesbianLeela
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Teral:
The suicide booth probably had a way of producing an intense electromagnetic pulse, which would fry his circuits and thus kill him. As we saw in Anthology of Interest I. So there is nothing else what could harm/kill a robot? What about "Fluor acid" (chemical: HF - however that's called in English ...) ?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Yeah, that would probably kill him too. The problem is an acid strong enough to dissolve a bending unit, who can survive swimming in lava (It's dolomite, baby!), would take the suicide booth and a good chunk of the sidewalk too.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Probably gets disintegrated the same way. Afterall, once you're dead you don't care how they dispose of yur body.
The have laser-resistant materials (Insane In The Mainframe), so a big honking laser could do the trick (killing robots), without damaging the booth. I'm still uncertain how robots can choose "slow and horrible", with horrible being opposite of painless, since robots don't feel pain.
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Mercapto
Professor
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Bender seems to be quite able to feel pain ("Raging Bender" springs to mind.) As for the chemical approach to dissolving him, anything short of submerging him into boiling aqua regia would be too damn slow and even then I would still take quite a while due to the surface/volume ratio. No acid works as fast as the stuff you see in movies. As for HF (hydrofluoric acid) it's probably one of most vile acids to get exposed to, but it's rather slow working. Originally posted by Teral:
The problem is an acid strong enough to dissolve a bending unit, who can survive swimming in lava (It's dolomite, baby!), would take the suicide booth and a good chunk of the sidewalk too. There's a huge difference between heat resistance and resistance to corrosives. Anyway, how do you think those super strong acids are stored? A teflon coating would make the booth both easy to clean and acid-proof.  |
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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« Reply #11 on: 11-23-2003 20:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-23-2003 20:18 »
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Originally posted by Mercapto:
Bender seems to be quite able to feel pain ("Raging Bender" springs to mind.)
Bah, he was just playing the game. Afterall he didn't mind being drilled in the head in "Insane In The Mainframe" or getting a hole stamped in his body in "Fra and The Slurm Factory". As for the chemical approach to dissolving him, anything short of submerging him into boiling aqua regia would be too damn slow and even then I would still take quite a while due to the surface/volume ratio. No acid works as fast as the stuff you see in movies. As for HF (hydrofluoric acid) it's probably one of most vile acids to get exposed to, but it's rather slow working.
Originally posted by Teral:
The problem is an acid strong enough to dissolve a bending unit, who can survive swimming in lava (It's dolomite, baby!), would take the suicide booth and a good chunk of the sidewalk too. There's a huge difference between heat resistance and resistance to corrosives. Anyway, how do you think those super strong acids are stored? A teflon coating would make the booth both easy to clean and acid-proof. Yeah, but would it be water(liquid)-proof? If you can see a lightflash through the cracks it would make sense that liquid could seep through as well, plus they'd have to teflon-coat every part of the interior. What if some acid got through the coin slot? It would destroy the suicide booth in a a´matter of days. And the Stop 'n Drop Suicide Company Ltd doesn't sound like one who's deeply concerned with consumer satisfaction (afterall who's going to complain), so they probably wont go to the length og bying expensive acid, when a quick EMP does the trick. Regular science: one Weapons grade balonium mumbo-jumbo: a billion  I did remember something about an acid (I think it was hydrofluoric acid) being too aggressive for regular acid-bottles so they had to use something else, but couldn't remember if it was plastic instead of glass or vice versa.
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Mercapto
Professor
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Originally posted by Teral:
Yeah, but would it be water(liquid)-proof? If you can see a lightflash through the cracks it would make sense that liquid could seep through as well, plus they'd have to teflon-coat every part of the interior. What if some acid got through the coin slot? It would destroy the suicide booth in a a´matter of days. And the Stop 'n Drop Suicide Company Ltd doesn't sound like one who's deeply concerned with consumer satisfaction (afterall who's going to complain), so they probably wont go to the length og bying expensive acid, when a quick EMP does the trick. That'll teach them for still using a coin-op machine in the year 3000. Get with the times, man! Besides I never said the acid solution was a good idea. In fact it's a very, very bad idea, seeing how it would significantly decrease the amount of customers they could serve. An EMP solution, however, should do nicely. Regular science: one Weapons grade balonium mumbo-jumbo: a billion *shakes fist at Teral* I'll get you next time, Gadget Teral...next time!  I did remember something about an acid (I think it was hydrofluoric acid) being too aggressive for regular acid-bottles so they had to use something else, but couldn't remember if it was plastic instead of glass or vice versa. HF has the ability to dissolve glass unlike most other acids, so storing it in a plastic bottle is probably a good idea.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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On the other hand it's a bad business strategy to build nearly indestructible robots, the turnover rate would be nearly nil, and after a while you kill your own market. Plus inferior robots are probably cheaper to build, and would outcompete sturdier and more expensive robots. Same thing with cars today. Since MomCorp control the majority of the robot market it's safe to say profit come before quality.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by green-gesus:
WEll, I would agree with that, except for "Roswell that Ends Well" where Eenice(sp?) eats bender brain. That would destroy his core program, would it not? Since it didn't there is no reasonable answer without going into plot elements Yeah, if he eats all of Bender main-processors. Those few modules was probably just a co-processor, or a part of some backup system. Clearly they wasn't essential for Benders personality.
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Axl
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by Ranadok:
In Obsoletely Fabulous, it was a dream, so I think that can be dismissed. As for HHRHGB, I think that was his personality on the disk, and the base Bending Unit operating system was left behind. Just like if I were to delete everything except Windows (or DOS, to use extremes) from my computer, it would still run, but only at a very basic level. It wouldn't be any fun. Yeah sorry, I forgot to mention the dream part... But in 'I second that emotion', when Bender gets sucked up to the giant can-opener, he says "You killed my father and now you've come for me!" or something in that direction... And in "War is the H-word", He takes the explosion from a bomb, and he nearly dies... And Zapp and Nixon meant to destroy the whole planet, including Bender... But in the end when he's guessing words that he almost never say, antiquing triggers the bomb, but he says "I'm okay"... But hey! - It's a cartoon! -Axl
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