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PEE Poll: Who is stupider, Fry or Zoidberg
Fry   -72 (55.4%)
Zoidberg   -58 (44.6%)
Total Members Voted: 130

kelso

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« on: 08-14-2003 00:08 »

I think that it is Dr Zoidberg.
Chriswell

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« Reply #1 on: 08-14-2003 01:09 »

Zoidberg, he took love advice from Fry for God's sakes.
FREAKIN' FRY!

-cs™
Gocad

Space Pope
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« Reply #2 on: 08-14-2003 05:27 »

Zoidberg: "Hooray, people are paying attention to me!"
Bobby King

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« Reply #3 on: 08-14-2003 07:11 »

one word: Zoidberg
Rage Dump

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« Reply #4 on: 08-14-2003 07:41 »
« Last Edit on: 08-14-2003 07:41 »

Eighty-nine words : Zoidberg never shows any real intellegence except to things of which are about his species. So, im sure Zoidberg (Mainly) only seems dumb because he only really knows things about his species, look at the beginning of 'A Taste of Freedom' for example
Fry's 'Dumbness' seems really just to be a side-thing, just one liners etc. I dont think he's as dumb as it seems sometimes.

But to answer the question i belive that zoidberg is portrayed as stupid moreso that fry so he (it) gets my vote
ThreeDLou

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« Reply #5 on: 08-14-2003 07:58 »

Poor Zoidy.  He can't help it. 

But damn funny.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #6 on: 08-14-2003 09:21 »

Zoidberg by a long shot. I don't think Fry is as dumb as he seems.  He can be wise at times and remember, there is a difference between being poorly educated and stupid.  Besides, Fry has been getting less dumb as the series went on.  Zoidberg is still his funny dumb self.
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #7 on: 08-14-2003 09:39 »

Gotta go with Zoidberg.  Though sometimes even he doesn't seem as dumb as he looks, Fry still seems to be smarter than him a lot of the time.
Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #8 on: 08-14-2003 12:51 »

I am gonna go for Zoidberg you should all go for Zoidberg!
Vamsi

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« Reply #9 on: 08-14-2003 13:14 »

You have to wonder how Zoidberg ever became a doctor. You would assume he would have had to have gone through medical school. Or did he just proclaim himself to be a doctor with no real credentials.

Wouldn't put it past Zoidy  :)
Vintage Dave

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« Reply #10 on: 08-14-2003 14:09 »

Do you seriously believe him when he says "I lost it... in a volcano"?
JRay

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« Reply #11 on: 08-15-2003 00:04 »

Zoidberg is pathetic but fry is truly dumb. Honestly, "I.C. Weiner" ?
Garbage Picker

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« Reply #12 on: 08-15-2003 01:01 »

I'll go with Fry.

Morgan: Why is there yogert in this hat?
Fry: I can explain that. You see it used to be milk and well... time makes fools of us all.

Fry: But Bender need brain for smart making.
Allen

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« Reply #13 on: 08-15-2003 02:08 »

 
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Originally posted by JRay:
Zoidberg is pathetic but fry is truly dumb. Honestly, "I.C. Weiner" ?

He didn't read the name until he got to Applied Cyrogenics.

Considering that Fry knows more than Dr. Zoidberg about human anatomy and has wisdom. (It just comes out stupid) I'm gonna go with Zoidy being the stupid one.
Rage Dump

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« Reply #14 on: 08-15-2003 07:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Allen:
...and (Fry) has wisdom. It just comes out stupid.


Bingo! we have a winner! Couldnt've said it better myself  :D
lilmurray37

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« Reply #15 on: 08-15-2003 16:28 »

Has to be Zoidberg. Fry just can't express himself well.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #16 on: 08-15-2003 17:21 »

I pick Zoidberg, just take his driving in 'Put Your Head on my Shoulder' for example  :)
Kryten

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« Reply #17 on: 08-15-2003 19:03 »

Zoidberg isn't dumb, he's just a shell-fish out of water.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #18 on: 08-15-2003 20:29 »

<drummer>
Ba-dup-BUMP!
</drummer>
Good one, Kryten, but don't quit yer' day-job.
 ;)
newhook_1

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« Reply #19 on: 08-20-2003 07:53 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 07:53 »

I would have picked Zoidberg had Fry not been so dumb he missed a button painted like a target in "A Big Peice Of Garbage". And don't forget the incident where he almost drowned on the slurm tour.

*EDIT* Don't forget that Fry let Zoidberg try to operate on him in "Why I Must Be A Crustation In Love". I mean how stupid do you have to be to do that.
Rocketboy

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« Reply #20 on: 08-22-2003 22:38 »

It's Fry defenily
Lionel Hutz Esq

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« Reply #21 on: 08-22-2003 23:19 »

Zoidberg is incompetent.  Fry is Dumb.  But I love them both.
bob newhart

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« Reply #22 on: 08-23-2003 12:18 »

zoidberg is definatley dumest because he usually only has a few lines and ep. but if he was the main character all the time he probably wouldnt seem as dumb
Xmpel

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« Reply #23 on: 08-25-2003 01:54 »

Fry. "No I'm... Dosen't!
Slashco

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« Reply #24 on: 09-02-2003 02:45 »

I vote for Fry. Zoidberg seems dumb because he never got used to Earth and its customs, and this fact combined with his eagerness to please and be popular leads him to do some dim-witted things. Fry is... well, he's Fry. They're both funny, though.
planetcutie

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« Reply #25 on: 09-02-2003 04:37 »

It's got to be Fry.  Come on, this is the man who said "Believe it or not, I have more important things to do today than laugh and clap my hands." As they said on the DVD commentary : "Now that's *dumb*"
John C
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« Reply #26 on: 09-02-2003 12:15 »

And lets not forget the whole anchovy incedent. If Zoidberg wasn't biologically driven to devour all anchovies, he would have hidden them away in a safe. Fry left them out in the open in his apartment after paying millions of dollars for them!
davids

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« Reply #27 on: 09-02-2003 14:45 »

I don't think zoidberg is that stupid. At least not compared to Fry. I mean who would pour gravy on a roast chicken that is on their head! Fry would!
Chris Tucker2

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« Reply #28 on: 09-03-2003 11:41 »
« Last Edit on: 09-03-2003 11:41 »

I'm sorry to say that, but to me Fry is more stupid.
MetaFox

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« Reply #29 on: 09-03-2003 19:11 »

Fry is definately dumber than Zoidberg - he's missing the brain wave after all.  The rays wouldn't have effected Zoidberg if he were THAT dumb.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #30 on: 09-03-2003 20:03 »

Unfortunately I am led to believe that Fry is.

Zoidberg would do better as a doctor of the Decapodians, he should have stayed on his planet and he'd have become rich. He doesn't know human anatomy that well because he came from another planet. But let's not go on about him.

FRY on the other hand has to be nearly as dumb as you can get. Or rather, he calls himself impulsive. He does do a few very intelligent things, but it turns out he had no idea they were helpful (IE: flushing the toilet in "The Deep South", or constantly talking to Leela [I'm going to talk even though you can't hear me. Blah blah blah blah-] in "The Sting" ). Fry is very sweet but unbelievably stupid.

You can't deny that, people.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #31 on: 09-08-2003 03:09 »

True, Zoidberg is incompetent, ugly, destitute, and pathetic, but not necessarily stupid.
I think Fry is the more stupid character, and this is quite the impediment... to me!
Fry is a very difficult character for me to relate to; not because of his age or gender, or whatever, but because of his stupidity.
It makes him very difficult for me to write for him.
*sigh*
phish

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #32 on: 09-08-2003 12:19 »

fry is definitely stupider, he shows this on many occasions but the one i can think of now is on The Day the Earth Stood Stupid, when Fry tries to talk through the wrong end of a megaphone, yet he is not affected by the brains do to his lack of the delta brain-wave, also, he spells "reason" wrong
Zack Brannigan

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« Reply #33 on: 09-08-2003 13:18 »

I chose Zoidberg based one what someone earlier said with regards to us not seeing as much of Zoidberg as we do with Fry.  That, and the fact that Zoidberg is ignorant about the species of the planet he immigrated to.  Why would you move there and become a doctor if you had no idea what the anatomy is of the main species?

My theory on Zoidberg is that he's probably a really good marine-life doctor, i.e. he could tell you what a "swim bladder" is or how fin rot would affect a fish.  But in his current situation, he just seems stupid and out of place.  Note that this is not bad, however, because it makes for hilarious situations.

Fry on the other hand . . . well, bad things happen to Fry (such as being struck by lightning), and Fry is also the type of guy who cannot put his feelings into coherent sentences (hence, "Bender need brain . . . for smart making!" and "I'll be whatever I wanna do!" ).  Fry just has a problem conveying his emotions in a coherent way.  I don't think he's dumb, just a little misguided.

You also have to remember that Fry grew up in a very different time from which he now lives.  So I guess then, in a way, Fry and Dr. Zoidberg are more similar than I ever would have thought. 

Zoidy's still "dumber" though, in my opinion.
phish

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« Reply #34 on: 09-08-2003 17:12 »

 
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Originally posted by davids:
I don't think zoidberg is that stupid. At least not compared to Fry. I mean who would pour gravy on a roast chicken that is on their head! Fry would!
only in an alternate universe where Leela is a little bit more impulsive. in the regular universe, fry eats cereal on his head
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #35 on: 09-08-2003 18:34 »

He also puts bananas on it... hehehe.

I see where Zack Brannigan is going with his opinion. But you do have to realize that Fry is stupider on purpose (for the plot, I mean). Being inbred the way he is, he can't help being the (cute) idiot he's been throughout the show.

About Zoidberg's migration to Earth: Perhaps Zoidberg had been exiled to Earth for some crime he had done on Decapod 10, which he would have to serve until The Frenzy... complicated explanation, but maybe Zoidberg is trying to survive there because he has nowhere else to go.

Yeah, that's about it.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #36 on: 09-10-2003 22:03 »

Wow, when you look at Zoidberg, I guess anyone could be a doctor in the future.
Luis

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« Reply #37 on: 09-11-2003 03:45 »

I went with zoidberg because when the worms made Fry "smarter" they didn't put any extra knowledge or emotions, they just fixed his neural network so he'd think faster and be more coherent. And besides, isn't he supposed to do stupid things for comedic effect? zoidberg has NEVER said or done anything remotely smart (except for that episode "a taste of freedom" ), Fry has sometimes. And talking to Leela while she was in the hospital wasn't stupid, it was sad. Fry has saved Leela at least twice, when has zoidberg saved anyone without causing the danger in the first place? besides Fry isn't from the future and many of the "stupid" things he does are from the lack of knowledge of future stuff (the coffee cup pun in the first ep, the part where he swallowed the instant tent pills, confusing a suicide booth for a phone booth, etc), so he's easily distracted yes, but he's not completely stupid.
planetcutie

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« Reply #38 on: 09-11-2003 09:09 »

 
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Originally posted by MetaFox:
Fry is definately dumber than Zoidberg - he's missing the brain wave after all.  The rays wouldn't have effected Zoidberg if he were THAT dumb.


Or, as Leela herself said in that episode :
"Now, when you say 'special'..."
phish

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #39 on: 09-11-2003 09:15 »

i think fry is stupid for the sake of the plot, zoidberg is just inept, and fry is just so dumb on so many occasions
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