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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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Well I would prefer them to get together, one day. Maybe halfway through the last season (9 or 10 years from now) and then use the rest of the episodes of that season to elaborate on their relationship. But none of that "Friends"-style crap. On-again, off-again relationships just don't work in this show, I think. I think it'll go against Leela's character as well. Put me down for a 3. Incidently go to this thread for the ultimate shipper-fest. That thread doesn't have a poll, so no need to close this thread, mods, just move it. he said, and was promptly overruled.
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Nixorbo
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Technically, what I want would be the "one episode" option. The VERY LAST episode. I like the teasing and hinting loads more than Fry's (usually) pathetic and over-the-top desperate grabs at Leela. I thought that the two aborted kisses in A Flight to Remember and X-Mas Story much more than Fry saying "I have to MAKE Leela love me" every five minutes. And if they/when they do get together, I'd want it to be completely and totally unplanned on the part of Fry. Not some sweeping, romantic, elaborate plot that Fry dreams up to "make" Leela love him, but rather a spur of the moment, impulsive gesture by Fry, along the lines of what happened in Love and Rocket with the oxygen tanks.
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Erdrik
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Originally posted by Venus: i want them to get together. the sooner the better, and i agree with Nixorbo that a spur of the moment gesture such as the oxygen tank thing in L&R would be a much better way for them to get together rather than an elaborate plot by Fry. He can't win her love he has to earn it. The sooner he figures that out the better off he'll be. ditto
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BrainSluggo
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« Reply #14 on: 05-03-2002 04:49 »
« Last Edit on: 05-03-2002 04:49 »
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Sure, and I think that's the game plan. The "Fryquest" routine is a diversion. I hope, in the meantime, we will find out the "whys" of their problems, which I'm sure are deeper than Leela lets on when she discusses Fry with Zoidberg. Methinks:
Fry: Like the writers, has serious Mother issues. (See: Mom) His own mother obviously didn't give much of a damn about him until he was gone, and his "normal" girlfriend waited a thousand years to ditch him a second time. Along comes Leela--the strong woman who regularly takes care of him, physically and emotionally, yet is just as often pleasantly caught off-guard by his Twentieth-Century observations of life as she is disgusted by his childishness and irresponsibility. It's all very "Norman Bates," but it is said that men DO marry their mothers--or in this case, love women who would make better mothers (cross-reference: Cookieville) than they had. Close miss: one Morgan Proctor. In the Likes-Repel category: Amy.
Leela: A lifetime of constant rejection, and along comes a guy who isn't repelled by--OR abnormally attracted to--her eye. However, she's spent years keeping a wall up, and the few times she's let her guard down, her "knights in shining armor" have turned out to be Zapp and Alcazar. She's desperate enough to ask her married boss Ipji out, she obviously wants to let Fry "in" on his better days, but she's also seen her two closest male friends find love--and get tired of their women almost spontaneously. Why ask for another tasty round of rejection? Especially when you have to work with the guy on a daily basis?
Fry's already done something ultimately romantic--and it ended in divorce. The closest these two ever get is in moments of severe crisis. One day, nothing's going to interrupt.
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Erdrik
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo: ...snip...
Fry's already done something ultimately romantic--and it ended in divorce. The closest these two ever get is in moments of severe crisis. One day, nothing's going to interrupt. I completly agree with you said about Leela. But I think the divorce can be blamed on the TimeSlip. She was suddenly being married for a reason she couldn't recall and panicked. I think if There hadn't been that particular timeslip she would have gone through with it.
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Erdrik
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straight Damn! err I mean Damn Straight! lol
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo: Fry: Like the writers, has serious Mother issues. (See: Mom) His own mother obviously didn't give much of a damn about him until he was gone, and his "normal" girlfriend waited a thousand years to ditch him a second time. Along comes Leela--the strong woman who regularly takes care of him, physically and emotionally, yet is just as often pleasantly caught off-guard by his Twentieth-Century observations of life as she is disgusted by his childishness and irresponsibility. It's all very "Norman Bates," but it is said that men DO marry their mothers--or in this case, love women who would make better mothers (cross-reference: Cookieville) than they had. Close miss: one Morgan Proctor. In the Likes-Repel category: Amy.
Leela: A lifetime of constant rejection, and along comes a guy who isn't repelled by--OR abnormally attracted to--her eye. However, she's spent years keeping a wall up, and the few times she's let her guard down, her "knights in shining armor" have turned out to be Zapp and Alcazar. She's desperate enough to ask her married boss Ipji out, she obviously wants to let Fry "in" on his better days, but she's also seen her two closest male friends find love--and get tired of their women almost spontaneously. Why ask for another tasty round of rejection? Especially when you have to work with the guy on a daily basis?
See, it's posts like this that made me vote for BrainSluggo as poster of the month. That's the best analysis I've seen of the Fry/Leela romance thingy yet. Kudos, BrainSluggo. I agree wholeheartedly to that post.
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BrainSluggo
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Originally posted by Venus: So the REAL problem here is a communication failure between the two of them! Absolutely. This is what makes the 'ship so much tantalizing fun: they are so close, and just one more firing synapse in just one of their skulls, at the right moment, would score a touchdown. Originally posted by AstroZombie: Hey I'm gonna be a father in 17 weeks, I'm entitled to a little celebration Then dance, Daddio, dance! Congratulations! Many thanks to Erdrik, Venus, and Teral for your nice comments! You make my head all huge, and junk!
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Erdrik
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
Many thanks to Erdrik, Venus, and Teral for your nice comments! You make my head all huge, and junk! Any time Venus In Fry's defense, i think part of the reason he falls out of love with his girlfriends so fast is that he gets into these relationships as a halfhearted attempt to get over Leela and move on with his life. But no one he finds can even slightly measure up to her in his mind and so he loses interest. Kinda like why would you want a hamburger when you can have fele mignon? But of course, Leela dosn't know this. She sees the kinds of relationships he has and just thinks hes affraid of commitment and out for sex. So the REAL problem here is a communication failure between the two of them!
Ding Ding Ding! we have a winner!
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BrainSluggo
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« Reply #27 on: 05-07-2002 17:02 »
« Last Edit on: 05-07-2002 17:02 »
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One additional thought (and this is weird, because I'm addressing it in my fic but forgot to mention it here): I believe Leela--mistakenly--interprets Fry's decision to get rid of his worms at the end of Parasites Lost as a form of rejection of her.
They're all over each other, and suddenly he hops up and leaves. He comes back, "tests" their relationship, and says he got rid of the worms because HE WASN'T SURE ABOUT HER FEELINGS FOR HIM. (Oy gevalt. Leela gets a lot of flack about "I love what you've become" line, but this one's worse. Try it out on YOUR lover and find out! No, don't.)
He HAD "steak," he sent it back to the kitchen--and the chef doesn't understand WHY.
...then, of course, he starts talking about Amy--which is a bad move in itself, but it also reminds Leela of Fry's tantrum about needing to end THAT relationship. And who here honestly believes she slept peacefully the rest of the night? Bitter tears, cursing and Häagen-Dazs.
Leela may be subconsciously stringing him along, riding a fine line between reward and rejection, because deep down she feels that's the closest they'll have to a stable relationship.
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Erdrik
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo: One additional thought (and this is weird, because I'm addressing it in my fic but forgot to mention it here): I believe Leela--mistakenly--interprets Fry's decision to get rid of his worms at the end of Parasites Lost as a form of rejection of her.
They're all over each other, and suddenly he hops up and leaves. He comes back, "tests" their relationship, and says he got rid of the worms because HE WASN'T SURE ABOUT HER FEELINGS FOR HIM. (Oy gevalt. Leela gets a lot of flack about "I love what you've become" line, but this one's worse. Try it out on YOUR lover and find out! No, don't.)
He HAD "steak," he sent it back to the kitchen--and the chef doesn't understand WHY.
...then, of course, he starts talking about Amy--which is a bad move in itself, but it also reminds Leela of Fry's tantrum about needing to end THAT relationship. And who here honestly believes she slept peacefully the rest of the night? Bitter tears, cursing and Häagen-Dazs.
Leela may be subconsciously stringing him along, riding a fine line between reward and rejection, because deep down she feels that's the closest they'll have to a stable relationship. There isn't one part of that I don't agree with.
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