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Topic: Bender's Big Score Review Thread
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Officer 1BDI
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posted 11-28-2007 03:28 |
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| I don't like wrecking Fryrish. Bark survives better. Fryrish is wiped out. Man... |
I wrote an angry rant about that over at TFM's board a few hours ago, but you summarized my feelings perfectly with those last five words. I have to watch the episode again if I want to give it a proper review, and thanks to school, that won't happen for a few more days. Let me just say that for the most part, I loved the movie, I LOVED the twist ending, and I cannot wait for the next film. *TotPD of Joy and Mild Disgruntlement* [This message has been edited by Officer 1BDI (edited 11-28-2007).]
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Sil
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I have to be boring and go with the crowd here; when the theme music started up I couldn't help but emit a loud cheer - it was like seeing an old friend again, and believe me when I say that I don't normally have an emotional reaction to a TV show as a whole.| Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| I did pick up on the Fry-is-Lars thing subconsciously very quickly - the design and vocal similarity bothered me the whole way through the film ("there's something going on there, and I don't know what it is" ) and then I had the light-bulb moment a few minutes before the reveal. I also have to agree that I found the pissing all over JB, TDHAIP and TLOTF incredibly jarring, but it could have been so much worse. You can tell it was done cleverly and with love, when it could have been so easy to utterly destroy both of the latter stories. At least it wasn't just done for the sake of it. TDHAIP I find a lot more upsetting because (as a non-shipper) it is my favourite episode from the series, and ignoring it feels like a huge disservice. |
I also had the interesting experience of watching it with someone who hadn't watched Futurama at all beforehand, and I think he missed out on a lot of the jokes purely because he didn't have the back story. When I spoke to him later, his main point was that "the characters aren't really funny" and I'm sure that 90% of that comes from not being familiar with them. That's where this film will suffer a little to the outside audience I think; so many of the character's jokes come from their previous motivation and experiences that anyone who hasn't been following the series is going to miss a lot of it. He did thoroughly enjoy it though, particularly Hypnotoad and | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| "But I thought you were happy, your tail is wagging!" |
Rest assured I am going to strap him down and force his eyes open Robot Chicken style and make him watch the series and then the film again.My other massive problem was with the music - while I know the reason for the lack of orchestra and reuse of a lot of the game music is budget, I really felt like it suffered massively as a whole. The songs in particular could have been 200% better with full orchestration. Something like TKOS relies so heavily on the music - without that it wouldn't be half as good - and the film shows fairly accurately how much the series needs its orchestra! Despite these gripes I have to admit that I absolutely loved it, having now watched it three times it improves with each watch. Now I just have to wait for the DVD in Region 2 - the commentaries were what got me obsessed with the programme in the first place (the first one I listened to was PYHOMS  ) [This message has been edited by Sil (edited 11-28-2007).]
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futz
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posted 11-28-2007 08:38 |
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Watched 2nd time last night. Seemed much easier to understand who was where when. I could offer some hope to those worried about a few of the "classic" episodes being disregarded. Quantum theory postulates that there are many simultaneous realities so those episodes may not have been ignored as is much as it seems. If time was disrupted by characters jumping into the past than it does make sense that the history of the characters would be changed, however. But, the character's path that changed what you're concerned about became a closed loop in the end sooo.. maybe time corrects itself back into one line.Music? Some of it was a bit loud compared to the rest of the sound track. Not sure if it doesn't actually enhance the "toon" feel of the show though. Did like the "Everybody Love Hypnotoad" theme song.
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bobbot
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posted 11-28-2007 09:14 |
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I was a little disappointed but it was good enough, I think that a lot of the things that people don't like may just be set up for the rest of the films. I was not given to thinking that Fryrish was spoiled due to the time travel aspect. Those who question why Yancey would name his son Phillip don't seem to remember that Yancy didn't just name him because Fry vanished, it was because he loved him already. Brothers do stuff like that. Everything that happened due to the time travel is just how things change. As far as tdhaip, we still don't know how that went. Was the situation changed by Benders time rip? Before condemning this we need to see how the next segments play out. I think thst most of the problems will be solved in time.[This message has been edited by bobbot (edited 11-28-2007).]
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DrThunder88
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I don't understand the problems some people are having with alleged conflicts between the movie and the series.| Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| LotF - Little Phil may still have gotten the clover at some point in his life. Fry and his family obviously had a strong relationship in the Lars-timeline. The only difference is that Fry got to enjoy it instead of having it wash up onto the beach of the future. After what Fry went through in LotF, what else do you suppose he'd do? The writer's hit the characterization right on the head. JB - Fry loved his dog; the dog loved Fry. Again, nothing changed except that Fry was around to enjoy it in the Lars-timeline because he knew he missed out on it in the Fry-timeline. Characters evolve. This is evidence of it. TDHAIP - Get off it! Fry has made several late-series advances toward Leela, all of them turned down. We all like to think they lived happily ever after TDHAIP, but there's no reason to think that just because the series ended. Even if the opera let Leela see Fry for what he was, what he was was too immature. In my opinion, the movie did more to advance the Fry/Leela romance story than TDHAIP. It showed Fry could become the only man Leela will ever love. It wasn't just him throwing his heart to her and hoping that she caught it. It was him (Lars-timeline Fry, that is) and her connecting on a deeper level than they could've as Fry-timeline Fry and Leela. It shows there is hope and not just possibility. |
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On my second watching I'm certainly recognizing where the complaints about the conglomerate nature of the story. While the time burgling and Fry/Lars are complimentary due to the use of convenient time travel, the Hermes story seems a bit tacked-on.Also, I'm already finding myself singing the song from Santa's workshop. |
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Officer 1BDI
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posted 11-28-2007 10:53 |
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I don't understand the problems some people are having with alleged conflicts between the movie and the series.| Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| LotF - Little Phil may still have gotten the clover at some point in his life. Fry and his family obviously had a strong relationship in the Lars-timeline. The only difference is that Fry got to enjoy it instead of having it wash up onto the beach of the future. After what Fry went through in LotF, what else do you suppose he'd do? The writer's hit the characterization right on the head. |
I agree, I think the characterization was spot-on, and I'm glad Fry did what he did, BUT | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| I just have a hard time seeing where most of the LotF flashbacks fit into the timeline now, if it even fits in at all. Things like the nephew still being named after Fry I can find reasons for, and I agree that nothing shown in this episode really changes the potential for Philip II's future (clover included), but some flashbacks (both here and in JB) have to be ignored entirely because of the alterations to the timeline this movie made. Perhaps the episode still does fit in and I'm just not seeing the logic yet, but right now it feels like they took one of my favorite episodes and shoved half of it out of canon. I think part of the problem is that, back when "Roswell" first aired, I immediately jumped on the "Fry didn't change the timeline; he was always his own grandfather!" bandwagon. For "Fryrish" to make sense now, the timeline has to be "branched," and that doesn't mesh with my previous presumption of how time worked in Futurama (in which case this is all just a matter of me getting over being wrong about something  ). |
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| Jurassic Bark and the former series finale, though. JB's retconning I was expecting and, IMO, was done well. As for TDHaIP... aside from the movie not even mentioning it, I don't understand how it was retconned. Leela ignoring Fry even after he's done nice things for her isn't exactly new to the series. :/ |
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Frisco17
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posted 11-28-2007 11:08 |
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I have to be boring and go with the crowd here; when the theme music started up I couldn't help but emit a loud cheer - it was like seeing an old friend again, and believe me when I say that I don't normally have an emotional reaction to a TV show as a whole.
Same here. I thought it was really good, if abit confusing until the end. I figured it out near the end of the narwhal thing but I did notice the voice. | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| Fry: "I have to do what will make you happy, not what will make me happy" |
I love the way they did the end especially considering what everbody was thinking about this Lars thing over the past few weeks. [This message has been edited by Frisco17 (edited 11-28-2007).]
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Nixorbo
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posted 11-28-2007 11:16 |
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reuse of a lot of the game music
Oh thank the Space Pope, I wasn't the only one to notice. @DrT: ::high five::
@O_1bdi: Also agreed. I'm trying to remember how the movie presented it, if perhaps Fry didn't reconnect w/ his family right away. Sidenote: Lol "Hairibo." [This message has been edited by UberMod Nixorbo (edited 11-28-2007).]
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dr.bender nye
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| Also, I'm already finding myself singing the song from Santa's workshop. |
Second! Anyone know where to find the lyrics?
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Oh thank the Space Pope, I wasn't the only one to notice.
Maybe I'd have noticed too had they ever released the frigging game on a Nintendo console...
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LuvFry
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posted 11-28-2007 15:03 |
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I thought the music sounded game-ish...Wow! I thought I was fine, the opening came: I was happy. And then that theme popped up. I had friggin' tears in my eyes! Ha ha: You know your obsessed when... | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| I picked up on the twist ending practically the first time I saw him. Loved his confidence and ease. I think they developed his character nicely. |
Congrats to the entire Futurama crew on their return! They love what they do, and it's evident in their work 
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posted 11-28-2007 15:18 |
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I noticed....  | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| I also had problems with all the same stuff, like mostly the kinds of things Fry's family says and stuff... kinda don't make sense anymore and the time travel confuses me. Also the things Bender stole. Although that could be explained at the end and, I guess, the next movie? But the Jurrassic Bark continuity was fine with me. |
Regardless, I LOVED the movie. My expectations weren't really high, as I heard it wasn't as good, feared the recent lameness of the simpsons would rub off on it, and am no longer that big a fan of Futurama. Um, so a lot of the time early on I just figured it wasn't as good, and as it dug itself deeper and deeper into this hole it created for itself I thought there was no way it was gonna come together and make sense. But by the end, with the narwhal(sp?) subplot and stuff, I was glued to the tv. It's great, and I might go so far as to say (don't hurt me) that it was better than the series. It was plot heavy, and though the humour took a second seat to plot, it was still there. And I hadn't heard every joke a million times. Also, I like it when Futurama is plot-heavy. I give it a... a 4... out of 4.
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Asrial
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posted 11-28-2007 15:50 |
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I consider the DVD to be a must buy if you're a fan of Futurama. Well worth the money AND definitely a good investment for supporting the cause.
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becky
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posted 11-28-2007 15:59 |
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(Meh, I’ll just put this whole thing in spoiler tags in case I say something stupid that’ll ruin it for others. Also, I do it because of the fact that there are some MAJOR spoilers in here!)| Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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Like others have said, I kind of noticed something about the music too while watching BBS too, an "I've heard that before somewhere" type of feeling. It's been a while since I played the game, so I couldn't quite put my finger on it when I saw the movie. But now the mystery is solved! Yay!As for the rest of the movie, I enjoyed it a lot. No, I absolutely LOVED it! However, due to the title, I expected a Bender-centered film with a little more of that Futurama craziness than what was shown here. But I definitely wasn't disappointed by this. I found the movie very entertaining, and the shipper in me was pleased to some extent! However, the aliens taking over Planet Express were disgusting. Even just watching them were disturbing. Ew. Fewer gags than “normal” didn’t really bother me that much, and upon my second viewing I noticed several jokes that I had missed during the first view anyway, probably because I was focusing more on the storyline. It was also at 2 AM, so I guess I was kind of tired the first time I saw it.
Anyway, I think (or hope) that when the film is divided into episodes, the added content will be in the form of more gags. I'm kind of glad they ignored the big relationship thing at the end of TDHAIP. Fry and Leela shouldn't be together yet! All though I would really like to see that happening at the definite end of the series, I just don’t want that thing to be concluded until that point. I like that Fry-chasing-Leela-and-doing-sweet-things-for-her thing. On a sidenote, I would like to add that when I first watched this (without having read anything about the plot before hand), I unintentionally spoiled the movie for my friends. “THAT’S FRY FROM THE PAST!” I blurted out during a scene with Lars, amazed by my own realization (as I’m normally not the kind of person who can predict what’ll happen in a movie). This was about halfway through. I was almost beaten up, pretty badly too, but luckily that didn’t happen and I didn’t die from my possible injuries. |
Ok, a lot has been said on the subject as of now, so I'm probably just repeating someone else. But I had this craving in my information gland to express my opinion, and I’m still in ecstasy from having Futurama back. Weeeee! 9/10. (Now, I hope I just remember my password. It's been a while.)
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Yoshiandmario3
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posted 11-28-2007 16:51 |
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i love this show
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Sil
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posted 11-28-2007 17:04 |
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From page 3
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I like this show
From page 4
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Do you know how much i like this show?
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Yeah i watch it every night
From "Futurama Monopoly" (which you resurrected after nearly a year with no reason) quote:
ARE YOU DONE YET?
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He/she as been doing this sence 2006 1 YEAR AGO
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1 year ago he started this do you think he is done are you done?
From the "Yoshiandmario3's forum" thread where you were also told about this:
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you know what sucks that i am a popper! boring!
Stop posting rubbish to raise your post count. Try contributing to the conversations and it will happen naturally. All you're doing by repeatedly posting stuff of no value is drawing attention to yourself as a fool.
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wwe_fk
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posted 11-28-2007 17:13 |
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| *I have very strong feelings about the movie. Between attending the premire and watching it about 3 times since, I don't understand how people are haveing problems with it. the first issue, "how does yances' son fry get the clover if lars-fry has it" well that's simple, when fry relized that he was lars, he gave it to yances son for good luck, since haveing leela is everything lars-fry ever wanted, he doesn't need it anymore. the second issue, "At the end of TDHAIPT fry and leela lived happily ever after, but in the movie it's like it never happened" WHO SAID THEY LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER???? It was just a tender moment between them. On the comitarry tract for that episode they even say that they only {had a feeling} that was the last episode of the series, they weren't possitive. so if the series got a six season, do you think it would start with fry and leela's wedding? I think not. Anything else I can rant about? I bored!* |
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RandomEngy
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posted 11-28-2007 18:38 |
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Hey guys, Long time no see.BBS was the funniest movie I've ever seen. And on further reflection, it's quite clever and touching to boot. | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| One of the little things I liked was the inclusion of the line "It's gonna be fun on a bun!" from I, Roommate. As for still naming him Phillip Fry when the original is still around, it's not that implausible. Sons are named after their fathers all the time and this isn't too far off. I think the time travel was handled right: by making it so convoluted it's just inherently funny. A lot of times it's just an excuse to put the characters in a different setting. All the funny bits are too numerous to mention, so I'll just say that I think BBS represents a roaring return for Futurama. |
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Frisco17
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posted 11-28-2007 18:58 |
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I don't really see most of the thing people mentioned as problems either. The TDHAIP issues where just wishful thinking I think. As for LOTF he could still use the name and JB actually makes more sense now. I love the way they worked in the city being destroyed from SP3000 too. Now that I've thought about it more I think the whole idea of Lars, something I violently despised before seeing the movie, is actually one of the best they've ever come up with. It's even more confusing, unexpected and clever than the coma thing from "The Sting", which I always thought was brilliant. | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| Also, I love how Fry basically becomes a "whale biologist" and then brooding sailor. One other thing, Leelu. Can you say subtle as a drunken rhino? |
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posted 11-28-2007 19:06 |
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Leeloo even had a purple patch going down over her tooth. Though, according to the commentary, the whole Leela/Leeloo comparison is absolutely intentional.Definitely not subtle.
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Frisco17
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posted 11-28-2007 19:08 |
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I figured it was intentional I was just pointing out that it's almost idiot proof. Also, I love the phrase "subtle as a drunked rhino."| Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| I think it's spelled Leelu not Leeloo. Anything related to whales or similar marine mammals are usually "u"s ie: Mushu. |
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Archonix
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posted 11-28-2007 19:14 |
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It's a grand phrase.
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km73
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posted 11-28-2007 19:28 |
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Yes, that's just it. Usually Futurama was a lot more subtle in the way they went about making you realize things. The whale storyline just absolutely hit you over the head. This movie really forsook subtlety in a lot of ways.I am starting to see more merit in the ending, however.
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posted 11-28-2007 23:50 |
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With a name like LeeluDallas Multipass, I'm pretty sure they weren't really going for subtlety.
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BirthdayClown
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posted 11-28-2007 23:51 |
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"Bite My Shiny Metal X" makes me feel dumb. 
*goes to watch Family Guy*
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DrThunder88
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posted 11-29-2007 00:24 |
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@Nix : :on the flip side:: quote:
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| Also, I love how Fry basically becomes a "whale biologist" and then brooding sailor. |
From question #2, it appears the criteria for whale biologists has decreased since 2000-or-so. To build on Nix's comment regarding cetacean subtlety... | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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With a line like "...I like things with only one thing instead of two things," you don't expect they were going for subtlety.
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Nixorbo
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| the second issue, "At the end of TDHAIPT fry and leela lived happily ever after, but in the movie it's like it never happened" WHO SAID THEY LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER? |
Seriously people, I agree with everything except his gross negligence toward proper grammar. | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| Will someone please explain to me how Bender's Big Score pisses on the end of Devil's Hands any more than Devil's Hands pisses on the end of The Sting, which pisses on the end of Why of Fry, which pisses on the fact of Leela and Fry going on a date in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles while simultaneously pissing on the end of Love and Rocket? |
Whoops, forgot to close my spoiler tags. [This message has been edited by UberMod Nixorbo (edited 11-29-2007).]
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Dr. Morberg
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With a name like LeeluDallas Multipass, I'm pretty sure they weren't really going for subtlety.
I agree, and it seemed more that part of the joke was how un-subtle they were being. It was so over the top that they had to be joking... right?
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Jeffbot
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| If Bender's Big Score was the only movie they planned on releasing, I'd also be a little put off by the apparent retconning of, among other things, the Luck of the Fryrish episode. I would be (and was to an extent) surprised that no one really reacted to the fact that Nibbler could talk (how would YOU act if your dog just started talking?), but as it is, there are at least three more 88-minute movies to follow and I trust the writers of this franchise. After the Wild Green Yonder movie comes out, I think that all of our concerns will be addressed. Beyond these issues, I absolutely loved the movie. Sure, they crammed it full of character cameos and references to previous episodes (the Slurms McKenzie quote was great), but after so many years off the air, who can blame them? I fully expect the remaining movies to be more foward looking than nostalgic, as Bender's Big Score obvioulsy was. Al Gore was great and had a much larger role than I expected. The "severely warped dry dock" joke was hilarious, as was the "ONE-GALLON-OF-GAS!" line. Overall, I thought that the movie was great and well worth its spot in Futurama lore. The jokes were fresh and funny, and the emotion was there that I expect and love about the show. The DVD extras are thorough and appreciated..."Everybody Loves Hypnotoad" was more than I expected. The environmental care in producing the DVD made this whole experience all the more enjoyable! |
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| Will someone please explain to me how Bender's Big Score pisses on the end of Devil's Hands any more than Devil's Hands pisses on the end of The Sting, which pisses on the end of Why of Fry, which pisses on the fact of Leela and Fry going on a date in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles while simultaneously pissing on the end of Love and Rocket? |
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| If I have to tell you, you wouldn't understand. Let's just say it (the movie) works for most of you, it doesn't work for me. |
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FishyJoe
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Sorry it didn't work for your, Ralph. Whenever new material is created, there's always a chance of alienating some of the fans.I finally watched the movie late last night. I don't think I have it in me to formulate an official review...but man. It was good. It's so freaking good to have Futurama back. The best part for me was the little things. The little bits of Futurama-ey dialogue that never seem laugh-out-loud funny at first, but they stick in your brain and you end up repeating them around your friends. I loved it when the sea captain told Fry that he doesn't get along with his type. My one major complaint about the story: | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| How did Fry/Lars come to the future in the first place? Is it another "he's his own grandpa" thing, where there's no real beginning--the future happened because of the past, and the past happened because of the future--and it's just the way it is? Seems kind of weak, to me. Especially since Fry had no reason to have the time-code in the first place, and it was only put on his butt to make things make sense at the end. Am I missing something? |
So the story is pointless and has no reason to exist, as far as I can tell. But it was a funny, enjoyable ride. I just can't believe we're back again. All of our tireless rerun-watching and DVD-buying has finally paid off. Watching the movie really reminded me of all the great times I've had as a result of this show. If any Futurama staff are reading this: thanks for the memories. I love you. If you're a semi-old-school PEELer who remembers me back when I used to post a lot more, I love you too. You all mean way more to me than any dumb-little-internet-nerds-that-I-don't-care-about should. [This message has been edited by Honorary German FishyJoe (edited 11-29-2007).]
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| did no one watch the first 30 minutes of the movie? professor clearly stated it was a paradox free time code. It's kinda like back to the future 2. old Biff gives himself the book in the past. but since he gets shot in his fortys, he live to become old biff, so can't go back and give himself the book. you are to take it at face value. |
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Finally got a chance to watch the movie last night, and can't stop thinking about it today. It was just so good to see everyone back. I will be viewing it again with other hardcore Futurama fans this Saturday to begin the long process of seeing all there is to see.A lot of people seem to be having a problem with the potential paradoxes that appear in the movie, and that confuses me, because
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| there are several points in the film where it is stated that the time travel mode used extensively in the film is a PARADOX-FREE MODE OF TIME TRAVEL. There's even that scene where Bubble Gum and the Globetrotters help Farnsworth prove that paradox-free time travel is possible. The part of the equation that makes it possible is also the part that dooms the people who use the code. |
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Nasty Pasty
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posted 11-29-2007 12:21 |
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God damn, looking at this thread is like going back in time with all these old posters. Good to see all you guys again!That said, the movie was certainly worth the wait in my opinion. Like most people, I thought that the beginning started off a bit slow, but it really picked up, and I was hysterical laughing the whole second half. The space battle was awesome, classic sci-fi goodness. | Spoilers ahead! Highlight to read. |
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| Some of things that I didn't like was the complete lack of the Zappster until the battle scene. Although, looking at the next movie's preview, that doesn't appear to be the case for next time. I was also disapointed with the abrupt revealing of Nibbler's agenda so dismissively and so early in the movie. Build-up, people! BUILD-UP!
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Overall though, I thought it was brilliant. It's good to have my favorite show back... [This message has been edited by Nasty Pasty (edited 11-29-2007).]
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Nixorbo
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posted 11-29-2007 12:38 |
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| How did Fry/Lars come to the future in the first place? Is it another "he's his own grandpa" thing, where there's no real beginning--the future happened because of the past, and the past happened because of the future--and it's just the way it is? Seems kind of weak, to me. Especially since Fry had no reason to have the time-code in the first place, and it was only put on his butt to make things make sense at the end. Am I missing something? |
So the story is pointless and has no reason to exist, as far as I can tell. But it was a funny, enjoyable ride.
What you're looking at, Fishy, is an ontological paradox. It's the same problem as Fry being his own grandfather, really. Come to think of it, Fry is now a double-ontological paradox. [This message has been edited by UberMod Nixorbo (edited 11-29-2007).]
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dr.bender nye
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posted 11-29-2007 12:59 |
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
What you're looking at, Fishy, is an ontological paradox. It's the same problem as Fry being his own grandfather, really.Come to think of it, Fry is now a double-ontological paradox.
I think he comes under most paradox's in the book
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